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CH-46- "Doing it, Phroggy Style" Finished

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 10:39 AM

Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] Bow [bow]

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 12:47 PM
 J.H. Primm wrote:

 When you get to the rotor blades check your references carefully, When viewed from above the direction of rotation for the forward rotor head is counter clockwise and the aft rotor head is clockwise. A lot of people get this backward when they build tandem rotor helicopters (H-21s, CH-46s and CH-47s)

One thing that is ENORMOUSLY confusing is the photos of the finished model on the box for mine, which is the A/D "Vietnam Marines" version. Out of six photos, three have counter-rotators and three have same-direction rotators! The instructions have it right if you read them carefully, except that some of the views are from the bottom, so you have to be careful.

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Posted by J.H. Primm on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 2:36 PM
 bondoman wrote:
 J.H. Primm wrote:

 When you get to the rotor blades check your references carefully, When viewed from above the direction of rotation for the forward rotor head is counter clockwise and the aft rotor head is clockwise. A lot of people get this backward when they build tandem rotor helicopters (H-21s, CH-46s and CH-47s)

One thing that is ENORMOUSLY confusing is the photos of the finished model on the box for mine, which is the A/D "Vietnam Marines" version. Out of six photos, three have counter-rotators and three have same-direction rotators! The instructions have it right if you read them carefully, except that some of the views are from the bottom, so you have to be careful.

Don't reference photos of the completed model. If you need help let me know and I will send you photos and reference material for the real deal.

 BTW, Academy kind of took a short cut when they issued the A and D Models. None of those kits have the correct rotor heads or rotor blades, but then most people won't notice.

What they do have in the kits are replicas of FRBs (Fiberglass Blades) and rotor heads for those blades. The FRBs and accompanying rotor heads showed up with the E model in 1977. When I got out in 1980 the upgrade from CH-46D and CH-46F to CH-46E was well underway. It may be possible that the FRBs and accompanying rotor systems were retrofitted to the remaining Ds and Fs (These would have been in Navy squadrons and serving as Air Station SAR aircraft)...Of course others may know more.

 

J Primm

 

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 9:32 PM

 Hey JP, would you mind puting up a detail pic or of the rotor head, and top view(if you have em) I haven't been able to find any good top view pics.

 Thanks

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 9:57 PM
 fermis wrote:

 Hey JP, would you mind puting up a detail pic or of the rotor head, and top view(if you have em) I haven't been able to find any good top view pics.

 Thanks

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]A/D Seems like (naturally) all piccies are from down below.
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Posted by fermis on Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:26 PM

BOOOOOO!!! (screwed up my decal)

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Easy 'nuff!!!

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YEAH!!!

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 Not exactly perfect, at least it was on the belly!

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:47 PM
Fermis looks good enough for government work to me Big Smile [:D] Looks better than the decal to me, good save Fermis

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, December 3, 2009 11:41 PM

 Finally finished all the markings, had to freehand the GRIFFIN on the tail. A decal would have looked much better, but, what can you do? (a little touch up is in order)

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 Dullcoated and unmasked, ready for a bit of weathering.

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 and a bit of detail around the nose.

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 FERMIS

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Posted by J.H. Primm on Friday, December 4, 2009 7:14 AM

Sorry guys, this is about all I have of a top view of a rotor head...unfortunately it is for the older models and doesn't inclue the blade 'de-icing' wiring harness found on many of the aircraft

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Posted by fermis on Monday, December 7, 2009 8:10 AM

 Thanks JP, maybe I can talk my buddy into getting something for me(I'm sure he's got a manual or two layin 'round.)

 Got some weathering done. A combo of drybrushing and pastels. I did a bit of real light pastels to simulate rivet lines.

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Posted by roughseas on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:55 PM

...whhew!! it's getting very close.. hope it'll be finished bfore new year, can't wait to see it flying on display.. no doubt, another great build Fermis...Cool

....a ship is called a She because her bottom is always wet!
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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 11:01 PM

 Thanks Roughseas, I can't wait to see it finished either!!! Been hittin it pretty hard the last couple days. All that's left for the fuse is some antennas and the guns for the windows, then I'm on to the rotors(insert OLD propeller hat smily here).

 I spent the better part of last nights and todays sessions on scratching the crew door detail. I'm real proud of this one!!! Got all the fiddly bits on as well(saving the front armor til I can get a decal for the "art")

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 The sides are made from some leftover resin stubs, drilled out. Wire for the rail and eyelits for the cable. The rest is bits and pieces of styrene and stretched sprue. Also used stretched sprue for the cable.

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 Thanks for looking, I'm enjoying the hell out of this build!!!!!

 

        FERMIS

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 11:07 PM

WOW Fermis !! That door is awesome ! I am going to be embaressed to post my scratch building now. Very well done ( the bowing to the master smiley thingy)

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by viper_mp on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 1:38 AM

Amazing work, Fermis. This thing is just gorgeous. I home mine comes out 1/10th as good as this. And major kudos on the Griffin. Thats one steady hand you have there to paint that. Cant wait to see what you do with the rotor heads.

Rob Folden

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 2:49 PM

 Thanks much, guys!

 All the extra BS usually get me all frustrated, but I'm lovin this one, most everything is turnin out pretty good. I really don't have steady hands, the key is to have a good steady anchor point!!!

V-man, fear not, the scratching. I used to be pretty intimidated by it, but when you just jump in, the water's better than you thought it would be!!! I think the main thing is, knowing what can be used for what, and a bit of imagination!

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:18 AM

Got her knocked out last night, just need to get a decal of the nose art. Spent a few hours cutting out tiny, individual letters for the stencils on the front armor plate, little crooked, but what can you do with 30 some letters 1/2 a millimeter tall.

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FIN

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:27 AM

Wow Fermis you out did yourself on this build, looks like one could just jump in, fire it up, then fly off into the sunset. Do you have a picture of the nose art, maybe I could help you out, as I have been printing my own.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:36 PM

 Thanks Randy,

 I'm still waiting on my buddy to e-mail me a good, straight on pic. I'll give him a call this afternoon and harass him a bit. Could a decal be made from a pic posted right here??? I tried asking over in the DECALING section, with no answer. If you could do it, I would be forever greatful!

 Thanks again my friend!!!

        FERMIS

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:19 PM

Fermis I make most of my nose art decals from pictures, most of them I rework in Paint Shop Pro, they arent as nice as commericaly made decals though. So if you like, get a picture to me with the size you want in decimel inches and I will be more than happy to give it my best shot. I use Microscale decal paper on my HP 720c deskjet printer. Oh and depending on the colors on the decal I may have to use white decal paper not clear, meaning you might have to cut the decal out. But you are a master doing that from the stencels you cut out for this build.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:19 PM

 I just got off the phone with my buddy. He had sent the pic to my phone, I have no way to get it to my computer so, he'll e-mail to my pc. Hopefully tonight. As soon as I get it, I'll put it up here. I know it does have white in it, and the measurements equall out to nice even MMs. I'll put them up at the same time.

 Thanks again, HUGELY appreciated!

    FERMIS

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:01 PM

Fermis I want to wish you and yours a very Marry Christmas. Also if I get the picture in the next day or so I will try and have it in the mail before the New Year :) I will send you 2 or 3 of them incase there is a booboo made Big Smile

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Bushi on Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:28 PM

YesAwesome build!!!Yes  When is this going to land at the local airports\ for a better look see.Big Smile Keep up the good work.

And for your enjoyment, CHECK this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lueh87ZuBg

Bushi

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Posted by roughseas on Sunday, December 27, 2009 4:40 AM

..what  way to end the year fremis.. an awesome build!  thanks a lot for sharing evrything man!!! happy new year!!!

....a ship is called a She because her bottom is always wet!
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Posted by fermis on Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:15 AM

 Thanks again all,

 I've got a bit of a problem now, I just can't get into another kit, cause I know I can't top this one!!!! I just have to go hunting for a few days to get tht mindset outta my head.

 

Bushi

YesAwesome build!!!Yes  When is this going to land at the local airports\ for a better look see.Big Smile Keep up the good work.

And for your enjoyment, CHECK this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lueh87ZuBg

Bushi

 That's some pretty cool stuff to watch. At my local airport, where I work, one of the UofM Survival flight pilots is also in the guard, flying Chinooks. He comes by on his "weenend" and does all that crazy stuff out on the runway. One time he came in and landed just the tail at the end of the runway, taxied the length of the runway and taxiway all the way back to the point of touchdown, keeping the nose about 10 foot of the ground the whole time. He then set the nose down, brought the tail up a few feet and did a rolling T/O, at about 50 feet, he spun that thing around and climbed out backwards!!! Wish I had my video camera.

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Posted by Bushi on Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:19 AM

fermis

 Thanks again all,

 I've got a bit of a problem now, I just can't get into another kit, cause I know I can't top this one!!!! I just have to go hunting for a few days to get tht mindset outta my head.

 

 Bushi:

YesAwesome build!!!Yes  When is this going to land at the local airports\ for a better look see.Big Smile Keep up the good work.

And for your enjoyment, CHECK this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lueh87ZuBg

Bushi

 

 That's some pretty cool stuff to watch. At my local airport, where I work, one of the UofM Survival flight pilots is also in the guard, flying Chinooks. He comes by on his "weenend" and does all that crazy stuff out on the runway. One time he came in and landed just the tail at the end of the runway, taxied the length of the runway and taxiway all the way back to the point of touchdown, keeping the nose about 10 foot of the ground the whole time. He then set the nose down, brought the tail up a few feet and did a rolling T/O, at about 50 feet, he spun that thing around and climbed out backwards!!! Wish I had my video camera.

Glad you like the video. It must be neat to see them fly on a regular bases. Keep up the excellent work.

Bushi

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:42 PM

Fermis did you get a hold of the nose art you needed ? Or are you callin this one finished.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:59 PM

 STILL waiting on my buddy to get the pics to me.....he's good like that!!!! I'll give him a call tomorrow.

Once I do get them, I'll have to figure out how to get em from e-mail onto my PC, so I can get em to photobucket. I figured out how to do it, awhile back, can't remember how, for the life of me!!!

 

You get all settled in to the new place? Back on the bench?

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, January 22, 2010 12:18 AM

Ok Fermis I hadnt heard from you and got to wandering about the decal. Ya know you could just forward the email picture to me Smile but we can work that out later.

Yeah we are mostly settled in got a corner of the garage all setup nice and then got hammered with heavy rain and cold for here in SoCal anyway. I did get an hour or so of bench time in this week though.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by FastasEF on Friday, January 22, 2010 1:08 AM

Very cool looking build! I need to get one of these. Big Smile

Josh

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, February 6, 2010 11:47 PM

Huge thanks again to everyone!!!

Found out last week that there was a contest today and I got to take her in!!!

It took a Gold, Best in 1/48, and Best aircraft overall!!!!   

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My A-20 got bronze in dios,  and my P-38, P-39, and F-104 all took silvers!!!!

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