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Alley project WIP (Some pics of the finished box dio)

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:50 PM

Oh my God, Narayan--I actually sat here, and just shook my head and had to laugh--you're like a modeling God, shrinking real items down to scale works of perfection! Really, just stupendous dedication to detail and fidelity.

I'm awed! (Like everyone else!)

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:38 PM
IMO, this is your most impressive piece of work so far...shadow boxes is the major leauge of dioramas--not many are done well...incredible work...the strengthening ribs on the duct-work is incredible...your work is sublime...
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Posted by Buddho on Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:30 PM
Whoa there Vespa....thought I was back in Brooklyn!

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:43 AM
 vespa boy wrote:

I'm getting there but not the final result. Its very much WIP.

That's the craziest thing of all! If I had taken food containers and they wound up looking half as good as the duct work you came up with, I'd leave them be before I messed them up, yours look great- can't wait to see their final appearance. What else did you have to do to them? Perhaps mounting brackets to the brick?

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Posted by vespa boy on Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:31 PM

Thanks for the feedback.

Brizio: I have a 1:1 1963 Vespa which I have had for 23 years now. No need to model one!

Doog: High praise indeed from you. I think God is in the details. When you scratchbuild, it really makes you look very hard at something and understand why it looks like it does.

Manny: Thanks v. much. I have wanted to build a box diorama since seeing the scale dinosaur ones in the Museum in Sydney when I was a kid. I think the trickiest part is going to be the lighting...will there be enough through glazing on the top, or will I need to supplement it with some LEDs. With fire escapes, the shadow on the wall is a big part of the effect. I'll have to wait until I am almost finished before I decide.

Thanks Stern0, redleg and razor. I am glad it works for you.

 PO: I need to get the corners a little neater. You can also see where I tried having a longer X in the lower two segments and pressed it flat again, but its still visible. I want to work on evening out the centre of the X in the ducting.  I do also have to add horizontal T beams around the joins and wall brackets. So you can see there is still a lot of work to do.

Captain Mac: rust and peeling paint are what I want on these. Its been fun working with brass, as it gives a lot of structural integrity to what could be delicate elements.

Jim Barton: I want to hotel room look a little used and stained  with pale pastel colours and water stains around the air conditioner, like you find in those chain hotel rooms.

 I'll post more as it comes along.

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Posted by Jim Barton on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:38 PM
 vespa boy wrote:

Thanks for your feedback. I do appreciate it.

 

I've been messing around with the side wall...this will be at a right angle to the fire escapes. I've been trying to work out how to do ducting and this is the result of some experiments with take-out food containers. I'm getting there but not the final result. Its very much WIP.

 

Mmmm, is that chow mein, cashew chicken and pork fried rice I smell?Big Smile [:D]

That definitely is a very convincing heating duct! Just some weathering is all that's needed.

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Posted by Jim Barton on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:23 PM
Just wondering how this was coming along.

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Posted by vespa boy on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:59 AM
Thanks for checking in Jim. I've been working on a community build with some friends, which has taken me off track (not to mention distractions in my 1:1 life). I've got a good head of steam up and there will be some more work in the next week or so. I'll post pics when I have some progress.

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Posted by vespa boy on Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:15 PM

I finally found a bit of spare time to get back to the bench and make some progress on this project (and also got my computer back from the repair shop)

 

I painted each of the landings and made all the ladders (railings still to come). I am going to add some glass tile windows and piping to the right side of the wall to look like the outside of a bathroom

detail of the steps


I used rattle cans from the art supply store and the wet salt masking technique which gave some nice results

I got the ductwork all together with joins between each section

And when the two walls are placed together this gives an impression of what the dio will look like. I think it is starting to take shape.

Note that the weathering is in an early stage and certainly needs work. Its still very much a WIP. Thanks for looking

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:13 PM
 vespa boy wrote:


I used rattle cans from the art supply store and the wet salt masking technique which gave some nice results

"some nice results" ? More like photo realism!! Bow [bow] Very well done- this could have been a ref. picture! Looking really nice, glad you got time to keep working on this one Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by vespa boy on Friday, August 28, 2009 2:23 PM

Some more pics

The fire door primed in rust colour awaiting some salt followed by black paint. and a DO NOT BLOCK sign.

 

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Posted by the doog on Friday, August 28, 2009 7:02 PM

Nice to see an update on this one, Narayan! Simply beautiful, as always!It looks like a Hollywood movie set!

WOnderful skill and textures once again! Hey did you see my post on the "haunted" penitentiary Eastern State Penn? Here's the link--I thought of you down there; some of the walls and floors, with all of the fascinating, rotting and peeling paint was something I could see you doing...

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Posted by vespa boy on Friday, August 28, 2009 7:53 PM

Thanks PO and Karl for your very kind comments.  

Karl, I really think that texture is such an important part of what we see. A lot of the rust texture came from not following the directions on the spray can...holding it too far away so that the paint dries partially before hitting the surface, not pressing the nozzle firmly so that the paint splatters etc.

Thanks too for the haunted penitentiary link Nice photos . Very cool. Another building to watch out for is the asylum designed by Richardson in Buffalo NY. An amazing building in terrible condition.

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Posted by the doog on Friday, August 28, 2009 9:14 PM

Narayan, thanks for that reference on the Richardson place! WOW! That's not far from me--ROAD TRIP!!!!

I have to find out if it's opened! That's something that my girlfriend would just freak out to see!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 28, 2009 9:25 PM
About time you got back on this piece! What can I say, except for, briliant...As I recall, this is set in a shadow-box, correct?
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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, August 28, 2009 9:35 PM

It is not even complete but what you have brings back memories of growing up in Brooklyn. Absolutly stunning realism. The rust work is fantastic. I am in aweBow [bow]

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:00 PM
I can only echo what these guys are saying. Fantastic realism. Your model looks like it IS the reference photo. I'll be back to see more.  Great to have this SBS on this forum.Thank you

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Posted by vespa boy on Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:25 PM

Karl: There are lots of great buildings in Buffalo, including some important Frank Lloyd Wright homes. Well worth a road trip. I was there in April and the Richardson asylum is closed and fenced off with chain link, but really amazing nonetheless. There are big holes in the walls and its a great chance to see how debris piles up and buildings degrade. I took a ton of pics.

Manny: Thanks mate. It will be a shadow box. When its finished you'll have to look at the alley through a scale hotel window, a bit like a peep-hole. The project has dragged on longer than I wanted, but you know, real life got in the way. Now I can get back to something I can control!

Redleg: Glad it reminds you of a real place. Thanks for the kind words.

Indy: Thanks too. Does SBS stand for shadow box scene?

I'll have some more updates soon.

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Posted by vespa boy on Friday, September 4, 2009 2:03 PM

I decided I needed some glass tiles in the alley wall. An opaque WC window. I made some tiles starting with a mini ice-cube tray and polyester resin which gave me these blanks

I then sanded the blocks to the right thinness and used a milling machine to score parallel lines on the back

I then polished the surfaces again using diamond suspension (6 micron followed by 1 micron) to give the final product

 

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Posted by Stern0 on Friday, September 4, 2009 2:10 PM
Incredible work Vespa....more real than real...keep it comming!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, September 5, 2009 7:40 AM

Simply amazing.....just amazing

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Posted by panzerguy on Saturday, September 5, 2009 9:39 AM

  Vespa beautiful work sir! The railings, ladders and ductwork are just amazing.

   The whole thing brings back memories of my early days living on Horatio Street in Greenwich Village.

  Now if we could just get you and WBill to add some figures.....Whistling [:-^]Wink [;)]

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Posted by vespa boy on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 2:38 PM
As a word of caution. If you don't properly clean off the salt used for masking, it can react with the copper in the brass and start forming green corrosion crystals called copper chloride, or "bronze disease" I'm dealing with it now!

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Posted by Jim Barton on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:19 PM
Looking good! Perhaps the glass block can be "dirtied" to make them look like they haven't been washed in years.

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Posted by vespa boy on Friday, October 16, 2009 7:19 PM

I found some time to get back to the bench and get the next stage underway. I feel like I am over the hump and can see the end in sight with this one.

Firstly I found that the individual glass bricks were too tricky to line up into a glass wall, so I milled some perspex/plexiglas and sawed lines into it and cut a hole in the wall to install it. I need to tidy up the plaster (not my finest hour chiselling out the gap)  and add some caulk between the "tiles" but not too bad.


I also made a fan exhaust from some scrap plastic.

I had some fun with S-bends.  When they are painted I think that they will really look the part.


And lastly some small wiring details and painted doors (awaiting some weathering)

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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:21 PM

It is almost beyond praise.

One word of advice though: The electrical conduit is made of zinc (galvanized) and after a few days in the weather goes very dull. Yours is a bit too shiny unless it is brand new, and if it is, you might want to scatter some electrican's trade litter about.

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Posted by vespa boy on Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 PM

Thanks for your comments Subfixer and Agentg.

 

Sub: Thanks for the tip about the oxidizing zinc. I will try to dull down the brightness with some grey washes.

 

More soon.

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Posted by Mic on Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:45 PM

This is simply immaculate modeling, Vespa. I was showing this thread off to my girlfriend last night, and she was speechless, except for the "Oh My God"s and "Holy *&^%"s that escaped after every few images. So, 4 thumbs up.

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Posted by vespa boy on Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:54 AM

Mic: High praise indeed. Showing it to your girlfriend!!

 

I had a great day at the bench yesterday. After 7 hours (I work very slowly)  I had the ladders and platforms fully installed on the wall and only one plier slipping disaster. I need to touch up some spots, but the biggest hump on this project is over. Some quick snaps

 

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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:18 AM
Such beautiful work. Thank you for sharing.
Regards, PWB.

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