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DITCY Part 2 *update 9-19*

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, July 13, 2009 10:01 AM

These are the WIP figs from DITCY...the last pic shows a fig with a real, working M1 brass sling as HVH describes (although I disagree that the front attachment is near the bayonet lug)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 13, 2009 9:42 AM
 camo junkie wrote:

was just looking at you guy standing up firing his m1...im by no means trying to come down on you i think the detail you added is really good...and perhaps you meant this as only for the pics...(again not a ww2 guy) but it looks like his sling is placed farther back than it should be. i say that because looking at the pic the loop is shown up front but you have the sling farther back.

The Dragon M1's have the actual attachement points for the slings molded on the rifles...I used that one Tamiya rifle because of the cool grenade launcher on it---maybe the sling on the butt is a bit farther back and I can adjust it...

These are the WIP figs from DITCY...the last pic shows a fig with a real, working M1 brass sling as HVH describes (although I disagree that the front attachment is near the bayonet lug):

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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, July 13, 2009 9:18 AM

Manny,

Really like what you have going on here. Hope its not too late, I was just going to add that the sling on the MG looks like it weighs a TON. The guy to running his arse off, but the sling is hanging dead straight down. I'd just add a little "bounce" to it .... IMO of course.

Again, nice job with these. The PE details add a lot for the action feel.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, July 13, 2009 9:08 AM
The M-1 Garand has two front sling-swivels.  One at the forward-end of the stock, another on the forearm, just behind the bayonet lug..

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, July 13, 2009 8:23 AM

im surprised really. tamiya figs (as you said) are really pretty worthless. at least the ones that come with their kits. these look good though. and i agree, with a nice paint job no one will really be able to tell anyway that they're tamiya!!

was just looking at you guy standing up firing his m1...im by no means trying to come down on you i think the detail you added is really good...and perhaps you meant this as only for the pics...(again not a ww2 guy) but it looks like his sling is placed farther back than it should be. i say that because looking at the pic the loop is shown up front but you have the sling farther back. again manny i like your work whether ww2 or not...just thought i'd mention it in case you didnt see it! btw, speaking of the slings...is that brass?? did ya cut it yourself? its a nice idea is all!

"An idea is only as good as the person who thought of it...and only as brilliant as the person who makes it!!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 13, 2009 7:34 AM
 camo junkie wrote:
manny, looks like we're competing for top spot here...(not that im competing with ANYONE)! didnt really want to comment on this one until i saw the figures painted but...what the hell. their poses are incedible. if they were modern it would be more the look i am trying to give my dio. you can feel they're sense of urgency! not that i want them (im not a ww2 guy), but who makes them? and its hard to tell are the resin or plastic?
Thanks, Camo---they are plastic Tamiya figgies...it ir very difficult to find figs in dynamic action poses in any medium---even resin.  They are actually not too bad with a little TLC. I added some Dragon gear and weapons to them, along w/ some PE, and after careful clean up I was pretty happy with the result. I can compensate with some of their "softness" with careful painting. I also used Tamiya figs in DITCY Part One.  For some reason, Tamiya's US fig sets are much better than any of their other sets...??? Thanks for looking in. 
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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, July 13, 2009 7:15 AM
manny, looks like we're competing for top spot here...(not that im competing with ANYONE)! didnt really want to comment on this one until i saw the figures painted but...what the hell. their poses are incedible. if they were modern it would be more the look i am trying to give my dio. you can feel they're sense of urgency! not that i want them (im not a ww2 guy), but who makes them? and its hard to tell are the resin or plastic?
"An idea is only as good as the person who thought of it...and only as brilliant as the person who makes it!!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 13, 2009 7:07 AM

 zokissima wrote:
Even at this early stage, I love the layout of this dio.

The layout will be very similar with Part One: three US figs, a building, a dead German and a vehicle...however, there will be one "surprise" element and some new techniques to depict bullets flying!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 13, 2009 5:58 AM
 ygmodeler4 wrote:
ahh, ok, I'll have to watch it again. It makes sense and I knew you could put a sling on it...I'd just never seen it thats all. Now lets get those figures painted so we can delight in the master painting of you Manny.
I am painting away...stay tuned!
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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, July 13, 2009 1:03 AM
ahh, ok, I'll have to watch it again. It makes sense and I knew you could put a sling on it...I'd just never seen it thats all. Now lets get those figures painted so we can delight in the master painting of you Manny.

-Josiah

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:31 PM
 ygmodeler4 wrote:
Looking good, the added details really add life to the figs, cant wait to see what the paint does to them.
I've never seen a sling on a BAR though.
Yep, they did...In Private Ryan you can see that the one the character that Ben Aflack carried had one...I mean, who would want to haul that heavy thing around w/o one???
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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:05 PM
Looking good, the added details really add life to the figs, cant wait to see what the paint does to them.
I've never seen a sling on a BAR though.

-Josiah

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:07 PM
 zokissima wrote:
Even at this early stage, I love the layout of this dio. IMO a far better product thant the last. Can't wait to see those figures painted up.
Thanks, I am shooting to have this one done by he end of August...the building for it should be arriving sometime next week...I also like this one better than DITCY...so far...
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Posted by zokissima on Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:38 PM
Even at this early stage, I love the layout of this dio. IMO a far better product thant the last. Can't wait to see those figures painted up.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:54 PM

Primary figs are pretty much ready for painting:

 

Comments welcomed...

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:41 PM
 panzerguy wrote:
 

  Manny you're definitely getting my attention with this oneApprove [^]. The deceased figure is pretty cool. I've used Tamiya figs quite a bit myself, though I prefer Dragon. I just swap the heads and some times the hands out for some DML's or resin one's.

    So what's the surprise element? Inquiring minds need to know. Let me guess the building will be a brothel and some of your trademark ladies will adorn the windowsTongue [:P].

 

Well, I have been working on the surprise element today, and I must say that based on some of my friend's reactions ya'll will like it (nothing that will result in any more suspensions--LOL)...I am also going to use a technique to show the actual crossfire these guys are running through which will add some dynamics to the scene...the corpse is actualy not going to end up where I placed him in the mock-up; he will instead be close to the guy providing covering fire...
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Posted by panzerguy on Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:49 PM
 

  Manny you're definitely getting my attention with this oneApprove [^]. The deceased figure is pretty cool. I've used Tamiya figs quite a bit myself, though I prefer Dragon. I just swap the heads and some times the hands out for some DML's or resin one's.

    So what's the surprise element? Inquiring minds need to know. Let me guess the building will be a brothel and some of your trademark ladies will adorn the windowsTongue [:P].

 

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:16 PM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:

Ya, I have the same Sherman kit with those guys... Good call on using other manufactuer's parts as well.. I do that with all the personal gear and TA-50, in fact, I got my figure's gear set up almost like an Army Supply Room, lol... I use the parts orgnizer cases and label them with bayonets, etc., e-tools, ammo pouches, canteens, packs, well... You get the idea... The Tamiya stuff from the 70s/early 80s doesn't bear close scrutiny anymore, but that's never been an issue with me...  There were only a couple of Tamiya rucks that were any good, one being the "horse-shoe" pack (NOT the one with the e-tool molded on) from the WW2 "US Army Infantry" set, the other was the medium ALICE pack from the 80s "Modern Infantry" set along with that one's M-17 pro-mask carrier..

I cast a bunch of those Horseshoe packs one boring evening... The middle one is the original part.  The left one is done in resin, the right with plaster.. I used Bondo Auto Body Filler (it's the two-part filler, not the glazing putty) for the mold material, rather than the more expensive RTV molds..  Both types turned out ok though I prefer the resin part better.. But as cheap as plaster is, and since it's NOT a real issue having a flat "back" part, plaster is my usual material with stuff like that..

Those are some pretty decent castings---the plaster looks actually better then the resin one...
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, July 10, 2009 4:15 PM

Ya, I have the same Sherman kit with those guys... Good call on using other manufactuer's parts as well.. I do that with all the personal gear and TA-50, in fact, I got my figure's gear set up almost like an Army Supply Room, lol... I use the parts orgnizer cases and label them with bayonets, etc., e-tools, ammo pouches, canteens, packs, well... You get the idea... The Tamiya stuff from the 70s/early 80s doesn't bear close scrutiny anymore, but that's never been an issue with me...  There were only a couple of Tamiya rucks that were any good, one being the "horse-shoe" pack (NOT the one with the e-tool molded on) from the WW2 "US Army Infantry" set, the other was the medium ALICE pack from the 80s "Modern Infantry" set along with that one's M-17 pro-mask carrier..

I cast a bunch of those Horseshoe packs one boring evening... The middle one is the original part.  The left one is done in resin, the right with plaster.. I used Bondo Auto Body Filler (it's the two-part filler, not the glazing putty) for the mold material, rather than the more expensive RTV molds..  Both types turned out ok though I prefer the resin part better.. But as cheap as plaster is, and since it's NOT a real issue having a flat "back" part, plaster is my usual material with stuff like that..

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 10, 2009 3:47 PM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:
I gotta admit, Manny... You get some really good, dramatic, ideas using stock figures...   I don't like to do stock ones because they're so recognizable, but you consantly pull it off, man...
Wow, thanks for the vote of encouragement HvH...It is really too bad Tamiya doesn't produce more figgie sets---they are actually quite good at it when they want to be, partcularly in rendering US Soldiers (odd???)...The three in this dio were first boxed with one of their Shermie kits and later released as a vignette set...they are as animated as any resin manufacturer's that I am aware of...they do need a little more TLC than most resin pieces, particulary w/ seam lines and thinning out some of the garment undercuts when possible...I tend to dress 'em up a bit w/ Dragon gear as well (the light grey pieces)...
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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, July 10, 2009 12:03 PM

ditto, you have a very creative mind and a very advanced skill that lets you pull off diorama's with seemingly ease. Seeing the progress pics of your dio's are almost as good as seeing the finished product!

Josiah

-Josiah

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, July 10, 2009 11:41 AM
I gotta admit, Manny... You get some really good, dramatic, ideas using stock figures...   I don't like to do stock ones because they're so recognizable, but you consantly pull it off, man...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 10, 2009 8:34 AM
 bbrowniii wrote:
Lookin' sweet Manny.  Another masterpiece in the making!
Thanks, bbrowni...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:04 PM
 Geist wrote:

Very nice Manny! Can't wait to see the Jaboschreck on the back of the Opel. Who makes the dead guy?

 

 

Erik

Yeah, the cannon looks really cool---almost modern! The casualty is a HELO Miniatures figgie...Here's the cannon (scratched) on the back of a Steyr:

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:30 PM
Lookin' sweet Manny.  Another masterpiece in the making!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:12 PM
 deafpanzer wrote:
Looking great! Thumbs Up [tup] After looking at your figures, it made me realize that I may have them too... do they come with the Sherman kit which I haven't opened yet?  If so, looks like Tamiya figures are coming out nicely.  Any chance I will see some maids running for their lives? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
Yeah, they originally came with a Shermie model...you can also get 'em in a little vignette set with the figs and a little base from Tamiya...
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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:23 PM
Looking great! Thumbs Up [tup] After looking at your figures, it made me realize that I may have them too... do they come with the Sherman kit which I haven't opened yet?  If so, looks like Tamiya figures are coming out nicely.  Any chance I will see some maids running for their lives? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Andy

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Posted by Geist on Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:11 PM

Very nice Manny! Can't wait to see the Jaboschreck on the back of the Opel. Who makes the dead guy?

 

 

Erik

On the bench: Italeri Leopard 1A2 correction build with Perfect Scale turret and Eduard PE

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:01 PM

Okay, starting some basic composition layout with the main players...the building is likely to change so don't get too attached to it; I'll be replacing it with a farm building...the Opel will have the flak on the bed when finished (note the flak base in the bed)

I left off one "surprise" element that I will probably not reveal until it is finished, but I think it will take the dio to the "next level"...

Stay tuned...

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:59 PM
Yeah, I am looking forward to an update on this baby!
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