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~ ! Clash in Tunisia ! ~ { Final Photos on page 37 }

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:52 PM

Looks great Indy. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Love those chips!

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:20 PM

[quote user="Manstein's revenge"]

Looking great---the most comprehensive chipping prep I have yet seen...

Thanks, can I quote you on that ? Oh,HeeHee, just did............

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:02 PM
Looking great---the most comprehensive chipping prep I have yet seen...
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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:00 AM

11/ 19/ 09 Update Continued.......

 
~~So I'm smack dab in the middle of the detail painting {really my favorite part } but I thought I had more than enough for a proper update & it's about time  to quit for the night.    
Everything's being touched-up with before mentioned paints, and some others from Floquil & Tamiya. All the parts painted with Floquil Grimy Black are later drybrushed with the same, lightened with various amounts of Floquil Primer. The heads we're drybrushed with the same Tamiya XF-16 Flat Aluminum it started in.  
Most of the small details I still  have left to paint, and the exhaust.  
The rims we're not so difficult to get color on, as they are slightly pronounced from the tires, but I used a fine liner brush(0) to reach in, plus lots of patience.This was all very possible despite some modelers belief  that  Tamiya paint cannot be brush-painted ~~Next update could turn up with this item finished~~work continues with the Kubel, and begins shortly with  the Opel
   Happily, I've just turned up with an x-tra day- off tommarrow   Cheers Gents

 

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:56 AM
 Mic wrote:

Wanna see that bike painted. Looking awesome. Kubel looks fantastic. Good toot.

Steve

Many thanks Steve,,here it comes with the bike <----

Narayan ~ much appreciated & don't worry, the base is the model I most enjoy building, I shall endevour to not dissapoint ! (even you !  Tongue [:P]

To begin....on topic, but as an aside........  
A sample of some REALLY rust-rotten sand-colored paint out back of my home  
Coudln't help but notice this on the dumpster out back. Sorry to have you look so close at a garbage bin, but it shows something like the kubelwagon's paint, albeit far more gone. This thing sits out in the elements everyday, literaly a stones-throw from the beach.   ~~Now, in the last episode.. we had undercoated the Beemers paintwork, and masked off pretty much everything else.   Next thing  I airbrushed XF-60 Dark Yellow thinned a bit with alcohol.    Before finishing, I gave the bike a shot from above only with the same paint lightened slightly with Flat White.  
Again,    though schools of thought differ,  from leaving the paint to fully harden before  removing masks--to those who recommend removing right away, I tend to like to wait  around 2 hours, that way nothing is still tacky by any chance, yet the paint is soft enough to release when overlapped.  
  ~~Here's an ugly shot just in the middle of removing the latex spiderweb of mask with my sharpest tweezers. The dried latex was actually stronger than some of the  model's small parts, so this wasn't too easy, and I broke off the delicate clutch lever & had to re-attach it.  
Overall the result was good, though some chipped areas came out too large. It's easy to paint in small bits of color, but before I began I wanted to show the result from masking.  
You can see I need to add the sand color to the bottom of the frame & the front of the back fender as well as some of the other struts. ALSO,  to the wheel rims & spokes --which is why one may just decide to paint the entire model unmasked and later paint in the tire........... Of course  ..it's no easier to reach parts of that then it is parts of the rim

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Posted by vespa boy on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:27 AM

Beautiful weathering Indy. I really like the chipped paint on the Bucket Car. And the details on the bikes are super, I like that you have added all the cables levers etc that really make me think of the real bike rather than a representation of a bike.

 Don't forget to detail the ground work as much as you are the models...I am looking forward to seeing how that part pans out.

Keep the good work going.

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Posted by Mic on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:47 AM

Wanna see that bike painted. Looking awesome. Kubel looks fantastic. Good toot.

Steve

 

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:35 AM
~ Here's what I had time  for last night ~ Prepping the BMW for a less damaged looking yet well weathered chipping proccess. The Floquil Grimy Black was heavily drybrushed with good 'ole Testors "Steel" enamel in the lil' square bottle.  
This is my whole paint prep for the high-wear areas, like the tank-top  
After I had finished with the 'steel' on areas of 'bodywork' & frame I masked off pretty much everything else. Esp. the tires, seats & shocks, as the black color on them was the perfect base colour already. It wasn't an easy masking job, but not as difficult as say some in  aircaft modelling. Here I used the masking fluid more in it's intended role to block out areas like the tires. It completes masks at the edges of the tape but the masking is not perfect, touch ups will be needed, particularly to the frame on the lower run.  
Next I stippled on a very dark chocolate mix of Tamiya, randomly and sparsley on high-wear areas. Then a lighter, slightly redder shade.  This represents the state of the metal of the bike under it's paint.  
For this I used a custom-chopped-off stump of a fine 'stencil'brush'. Nothing fancy  
I let this sit til' the next night, when I'll put on tiny drops of mask, and paint in the Dark Yellow. More in this &  Herr Kubelwagon as it developes !     Thanks for tuning in for our continuing coverage of
                   ~ ! Clash in Tunisia ! ~

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, November 16, 2009 10:34 PM
 Axel Smith wrote:
Awesome work there Indy, you really did a good job with that liquid mask Thumbs Up [tup]
Thanks Alex . Don't try that on anything you want to look pretty!

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, November 16, 2009 10:30 PM
 Schnobs wrote:

Adam,

I read this right afte you posted and forgot to post my comments.  Very nice and different effect than the HP method.  I like the effect it looks very realistic.

You are doing a superb job on the vehicles!

Edmund ~ Thank you very much buddy, glad you came by again.

Rob ~ thanks for comments too, hang tight, more will happen !

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Posted by Axel Smith on Monday, November 16, 2009 10:30 PM
Awesome work there Indy, you really did a good job with that liquid mask Thumbs Up [tup]

- Alex

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, November 16, 2009 10:27 PM
 Citadelgrad87 wrote:

Looks properly beat up, Indy.  Nice contrast between this heavily beat up look and Schnobs' light sand blasted wear and tear.

Exactly. I don't even think it looks 'better', in fact it looks 'worse', but that's what I wanted for this car, one that was out in the harshest elements every day of it's career and about to go scrap !

Are you trying to paint a patern with the masking fluid, or do you slop it on and make the "pattern" by careful removal?  I've never tried it, but would like to add it to my arsenal.

 I was actually being very careful to apply the Liquid Frisket(as the  fine-art airbrush painters call it) very specifically, in as small a dabs as possible. (You can see it as the shiny spots in the WIP photos. It's really hard to draw / paint with though. It's something you need to go get a 'feel' for.     Find something you want to normally mask with a small piece of tape, and see what it take for you to get it in place. It does'nt act like paint at all. Some artist friends I know swear it can't be brushed ! They apply the mask with a toothpick or kabob skewer.           If you use a brush, use a really small one, & you'll need some laquer thinner to get it clean. This stuff clumps & drys on the brush like nothing you've ever seen    (the Windsor&Newton brushes better than other brands)One thing you'll notice is if you put some anywhere you don't want, it rubs right off with your finger or applicator, part of the challenge is not constantly pulling off the mask thats already in the right place  (you will see)       After painting, I look very carefully in glancing light to find the slight bumps under the paint, and pick,tweeze, and rub it off,,,often remembering what spots it covers

Are those channel lock marks on the Tamiya paint bottle?  If so, I think you got my bottle there, sorry, I couldn't get it open. 

~ Bill....I Almost fell out of my chair & ROFL there ! YES, channel locks are an absolute MUST HAVE in the modelers kit--NO DOUBT !

 Clown [:o)] 

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, November 16, 2009 10:09 PM

Adam,

I read this right afte you posted and forgot to post my comments.  Very nice and different effect than the HP method.  I like the effect it looks very realistic.

You are doing a superb job on the vehicles!

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, November 16, 2009 8:57 PM

Hey Indy I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes using the liquid masking fluid. Your Kubel is looking great buddy, love that chipping. I'm looking forward to the weathering part of the painting.

 

Rob

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Posted by I make stuff on Monday, November 16, 2009 7:56 PM

Looks properly beat up, Indy.  Nice contrast between this heavily beat up look and Schnobs' light sand blasted wear and tear.

Are you trying to paint a patern with the masking fluid, or do you slop it on and make the "pattern" by careful removal?  I've never tried it, but would like to add it to my arsenal.

Are those channel lock marks on the Tamiya paint bottle?  If so, I think you got my bottle there, sorry, I couldn't get it open. 

Bill 

 

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, November 16, 2009 7:51 AM

[quote user="Manstein's revenge"]

Really nice "show and tell" going on...great execution...the pak turned out looking really sweet---you might even say that it is the "leader of the pack"...Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

AHH~~thank you thank you & Ha Ha ! Always a pleasure to have you drop by Herr Fieldmarshel, beer's in the fridge...make a self @ home

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:49 AM
Really nice "show and tell" going on...great execution...the pak turned out looking really sweet---you might even say that it is the "leader of the pack"...Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:15 AM

 


~As much as I'd love to start on the Opel, it's going to be slightly involved,  & there's just too many paint jobs stacking up, so this weekend I brought  some progress there.....   My pictures of  the clean-up of the primer didn't look acceptable, but I did spend a few hours with a blade-tip and 600 paper to take off some rough edges, even so some fuzz remains. After a  while I decided it would have to do, and sprayed another Floquil coat, this one was Grimy Black(Floquil #110013) which I recently found out for my self is the exact same colour as  Weathered Black(Floquil #F110017) Why one colour with two names & two numbers? Well. they got me to buy it thinking I added to my range.      It is a usefull color, and has a VERY fine opaque pigment,sprayed or brushed......so, no real harm....BUT    !  
This blackish-grey colour will be a base coat for a similar but slightly different process to this one I've done with the Kubel.   ~To re-cap....I primered with  Floquil Grey Primer   Then after plenty of drying time, I airbrushed a chocolate brown mixed from Tamiya Much darker toward the bottom and in wheelwells...and let cure....   Then  2 coats of Future, and lots more drying time...     Today I masked off areas of this finish I wanted to be revealed by chips & cracks in the sun-faded, badly-beaten ,chipped , and pitted dark yellow painjob.   Most of the Liquid Masking Fluid was applied with a small brush, leaving mostly a clear but glossy trace of it's presence,where I'd later get the chip.   It's tricky stuff, but once you get a feel for working it, you can even coax it into flowing into recesses,like under the door here.There will later be a wash in there, but still this works.
Some of the mask can be applied with a balled-up bit of 3M sanding pad, though it's tuff to control what you get, and a bit of Scotchbright (useful  for applying chipping with paint) was even less good  for me, for this task, with the mask fluid.  
Don't have to wait long at all before painting, In fact I recommend getting your paint on & off the masked areas in short order, to avoid the full-stregnth cure holding the masked portion down.   I spray three different colours, one right after the other, with a mind toward some modulation, to get the pale sun-bleached look to top surfaces. The 1st colour was a mix of Tamiya XF-60 Dark Yellow & XF-57 Buff, mixed to a value right between the two(which took some greater % of Buff)   The next coat was the same lightened with XF-2 Flat White & a few drops of XF-3 Flat Yellow. the 3rd coat lighter still. I took a dinner break & walked my doggie, and after about two hours or so, began to remove bits & dots & strings of mask with the sharpest , fine tweezers in my collection, managing to only puncture my finger once   This work took over two hours, here's some 'in-progress' shots


You can see why I like this method( over the hairspray method, which can look very good too) as you can see how you can actually get the paint to chip & peel off, like it tends to do when badly beaten and moisture gets under the paint.  


  I've just finished with this, and have yet to add any traces of the  bare steel, and rust  
I have scratched through to the grey primer in some places, and this adds some variation, but some more  work is needed to get this just right...   Hope that all made sense~ Questions / Comments ~Are Very welcome~~~

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:30 PM

~Thanks Mark.....boggle eh?Whistling [:-^]

 

 Here's a bonus shot :  
Built and set aside for the time being, is this cool rider figure from Warriors, a Douglas Lee sculpt.      I've been wanting to see him next to the R75      (he can't have this one though) he will be in an upcoming Dio(details of which are otherwise top-secret so far)  
Of course the Lion Roar kit comes with parts for 2 bikes, But plans so far have this Gent standing near the Tamiya sidecar bike with Eduard Photo Etch set(unless I let that wither in the stash ................) ~ Cheers Mateys                               

 

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Posted by MaxSheridan on Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:09 AM

Looking sweet!Thumbs Up [tup]

 

The details on the bike boggle the mind!Big Smile [:D]

 

 

-Mark

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:58 AM

~Well I can report that the prototype shop is keeping me steadily busy, although we are not going full gangbusters by any means.             ~ I Got home  & got the airbrush running. I hit the motorbike with a  careful coat of Floquil Grey Primer thinned a bit with white spirit (cheap effective paint thinner from Walmart) Things looked better than I'd hoped.    Still, some delicate sanding could make it better in places. Of course as fragile as the details are, that needs to be CAREFUL work! (note I added some straps to hold that gasmask case on. This was done before the primer with some paperstrips stiffened with C/A glue)
I'll improve some areas,particularly the few filled spots, tomarrow after the primer is cured .  
A few of more of my figures got the Dark Yellow treatment &  they are all prepped.   Before spraying colour, I shot Future to seal base-coats on the Pak 40
and the kubelwagon,        to keep the base-coats in place during the following steps.  
  I'll continue applying layers,and soon start on  Opel truck, the last model needed for the Diorama( besides the most major model, the base)    Please stay tuned...................  ... .....

              ~ Indy

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:27 PM

[quote user="Manstein's revenge"]

Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Very nice work on the cycle and Kubel...those little cycle kits are a bit pricey but I've had my eye on one...

~ Thanks Much Buddy, just over $20 . Of course the OLD Tamiya kit is ONLY $4 !! But add the Eduard P.E. set for $14 and then compare.           LNRL3509 WWII German BMW R75 - Plastic kit with photo-etched parts (Contain 2 kits)  #LNRL3509

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:53 AM
Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Very nice work on the cycle and Kubel...those little cycle kits are a bit pricey but I've had my eye on one...
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Posted by *INDY on Monday, November 9, 2009 10:26 PM
 Schnobs wrote:

Adam the bike is gorgeous and yes I can imagine putting it together with a tweezer all too well! Mischief [:-,]

This is going to be a killer Dio!

Thanks Edmund ~we hope so !!  (it will)

~ Brian  ~  LOL ~    thanks

~Subfixer ~  Didn't know you we're waiting at all, but thanx for all the nice comments. No, not really is the answer. It is going to need a little fill on the end of the heads.

 ~BACK SOON GUYS  ~   HANG TUFF

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, November 9, 2009 9:49 PM

Adam the bike is gorgeous and yes I can imagine putting it together with a tweezer all too well! Mischief [:-,]

This is going to be a killer Dio!

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, November 9, 2009 9:34 PM
I am totally ignorant of motorcycle engines, but is that lateral seam on the cylinder heads supposed to be there? I've been waiting for you to address them but you haven't yet. You've done such a very fine job on this bike so far, that I would hate to see a flaw (if it is indeed a flaw) go untouched.

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, November 9, 2009 8:34 PM
AHHHH!  I missed this one... thanks for the clarification.  Can't keep up with everything going on in the forum.  Thanks!  Still looking great!

Andy

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Posted by figure freak on Monday, November 9, 2009 7:18 PM

Looks real nice Indy, if that pick realy was of this model after weathering, i probably would pull my hair out because she looks so good

 

Brian

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, November 9, 2009 6:47 PM

~ T-Rex ~ Thanx, I guess. I can't really say I understand you post though. Any other words you could choose to communicate with?

~Andy~ Thank you for the nice comments. As for your observation/question, I think you missed the related caption Buddy, it explained perfectly.

"As I'm going to heavily weather this bike to show one that's in the field a long while, I put a drastic rough texture on the entire exhaust with some Tamiya Liquid Surface primer stippled with a wire brush. This will be sanded to something more in-scale after primer."

~And ,sorry, you might think that it wouldn't hardley ever rain in Tunisia, but you'd be wrong. It did rain heavy at times, and caused a mess when it did.  Also, remember there's natural salt & mineral deposits in those hills & flats too.Imagine the harshest natural climate imaginable, thats what this bikes been soldiering on through!

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, November 9, 2009 1:38 PM

Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] AMAZING WORK on the bike! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]  Hopefully your bike gets the approval seal from our own biker Doog.  Everything looked great... only one minor part caught my eyes is the muffler and its piping... are you planning to make it look like mud or a real BAD case of rust?  I figure the bike is in Africa where it doesn't rain alot out there in the desert so rust shouldn't be that bad down there unless I am wrong?  That's my only thought... it has been fun following your process.  Wish I can build as fast as you have been doing!

 

Andy

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