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1/72 B-52D with Big Belly Mod, Operation Arc Light

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  • From: Middletown, OH
Posted by Buffirn on Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:44 PM

That looks great Russ!

You're gonna make me build an alert pad.  Dang it!!!!!

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:45 PM

Hi, All,

I finally finished putting down the all the tarmac slices. It doesn't look too bad but there were some issues and I would probably redo it before entering it in a contest. For now, I will leave it as is. I experienced a color shift in some of the slices and wasn't able to correct it. Don't know if it was due to Photoshop or my printer. In any case, I learned what I wouldn't do the next time and what I should have done this time Big Smile.

 

There was, however, one other rather large obstacle to completing it...Big Smile.

The next picture shows the two halves separated. A big thanks goes to Jim Williams (Buffirn) for sending me a batch of super magnets to use on the base. They hold the two halves solidly together without using brackets and screws.

Finally, here's the base with the aircraft (The wings aren't finished yet).

 

Cheers,

Russ

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:18 AM

Buffirn

That looks familiar!

Rgr that, Jim Big Smile. I imagine that bomb bay was a big part of your walkaround. Could you take us through your preflight checks? I always wondered what the navs went through during preflight.

Russ

 

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:49 PM

Buffirn

We always found that SAC HQ was good for coordinating missions, but not so good from a routing and tactics standpoint.  Some of those folks were long removed from active flying.  Others were just plain idiots.  Either way, we always took what they said with a large load of salt.  The same could be said for the numbered Air Forces.  8th could be dumb, but 15th was much worse.

Yeah Jim, the political types killed a lot of guys, and those big shots were on our side.....

"hey diddle diddle, straight up the middle".....------Dead

Dom

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Posted by Buffirn on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:39 PM

That looks familiar!

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:28 PM

Hi, All,

Updated 7/21/19.

I've had to back off working on the tarmac project for a couple of days so I started adding some of the final details on the fuselage. The two pictures below show the addition some extra detail and the bomb bay door thrusters at each end. Since I'm showing the bomb bay doors in the load position, the thrusters are disconnected. I used some bits and pieces to simulate the thruster hydraulic pump between the arms. This adds some depth instead of having just the flat image.

I also added the rear panel that was created in the procedure on Page 2.

  

BTW, the thruster arms were always disconnected for safety reasons whenever the bomb bay doors were left open for any reason.

Cheers,

Russ

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Posted by Buffirn on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:01 AM

We always found that SAC HQ was good for coordinating missions, but not so good from a routing and tactics standpoint.  Some of those folks were long removed from active flying.  Others were just plain idiots.  Either way, we always took what they said with a large load of salt.  The same could be said for the numbered Air Forces.  8th could be dumb, but 15th was much worse.

Jim Williams

 

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:06 PM

Yeah Russ and Jim;

That's the story. The way I heard it, the disconnect between the SAC staff

and the soldier staff on tactics cost a lot of guys their lives, and about 2 dozen BUFFS,

but correct me on the number, it was a lot of crews and planes.

SAC finally let the soldiers figure it out, but again, i heard that story about 10 years ago.

I gotta stop now, Jane Fonda is coming back into my mind, and Bob McVietNamara.

Rumor has it Bob owned shares in an ordinance company.....he was allegedly into 'quantity'

not 'quality,' but I have no idea if any of that is actually true.

Ever hear the story about the tail-number painting scheme for brass inspection?

Dom

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Posted by Buffirn on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:46 AM

One of my ROTC instructors was an Intel Officer at Guam during Linebacker 2.  He told us there was one particualr SA-2 site that was especially effective.  It had most of the kills in the first few days.  On the 3rd or 4th day, the lead cell of D models was tasked to strike that site.  Ironhand the SAC way!  After the impact of 324 iron bombs, that site went silent and stayed that way.  

Good old SAC thinking.  One bomb is cool, but 324 is even better.

I also have heard crew dogs from that era talk.  They were very unhappy with SAC HQ being involved.  While all staff weenies ahve the best of intentins, they do not have the direc feedback from the crews.  It is always better to give the deployed staff the targets and any other strike data needed and let them plan the route.

Jim

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, May 27, 2013 11:51 PM

Bockscar

Russ, Lee:

I heard about an electronic system to confuse the SAM radar.

I'm sorry if I can't get all of this right. my recollection is that

it would cover a number of aircraft in a relatively tight formation

and obviously all flying the same speed and little relative

movement between them.

When the bombers went to turn, however, that would upset the

balance in the system and then they would become visible, or more visible,

to the SAM radar.

What I can't remember is how the crews finally got it across to

the commanders that they could fix the problem and save crews and

aircraft. It might have been a directional change, or different procedure

when the formation made the turn.

I remember a pilot saying something like this about the SAM, "if you saw the

flash moving you were okay, but if it wasn't moving, you were dead."

Reminds me of what guys used to say about tracer ground-fire in WWII.

Dom

Update from Dom's post several months back:

Dom,

I didn't understand what you were describing until I read some articles about the Linebacker II Christmas bombings of Hanoi. SAC headquarters were setting up the B-52 missions instead of the more experienced staff on Guam. They had the bombers coming in cells of 3 or 4 in trail, at the same times, same altitude, and hitting essentially the same targets.

The bombers and accompanying B-66 aircraft provided massive barrage jamming that flooded the enemy's scopes and prevented their Fan Song radars from going into auto track mode. But again, at the direction of SAC, each bomber was required to make a hard turn after dropping it's bombs and this led to a weakness that the NVA operators could exploit.

When the bombers rolled into the turn, the jamming antennas on the bottom of the aircraft pointed away from the tracking radars just for a few seconds. The NVA learned to watch for a decrease in jamming level on their scopes and when they detected it, they fired their missiles. They quickly switched to auto track and the system could guide the missiles to the target while the plane was still turning. This resulted in a lot of B-52s being shot down before we finally figured out what was happening.

Thanks for bringing this up - it's been bothering me for a long time and now I know the story behind it.

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, May 27, 2013 1:51 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

 

That is looking great Russ!!  Yes  Yes  How does it feel to see the light at the end of the tunnel?  This is going to look fantastic!

Ken

Thanks for the good words, Ken!   It feels good! (I'm already planning the next one...) Big Smile

Russ 

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, May 27, 2013 11:13 AM

Yes

Striker8241

Hi, All,

I'm a happy camper again today! Big Smile. I found just the right system to lay down the ramp slices on the base. Many thanks, Dom, for suggesting the double-sided tape - it's working out great! I used a heavy duty cloth double-sided carpet tape from Ace Hardware to attach the foam board to the base. The picture below shows the base with the foam board applied.

 

Next, I'm using 3/4" double-sided cellophane tape to attach each tarmac slice to the foam board (I'm using a brand called "2 Side It" Permanent tape. It seems a lot stronger and stickier than the Scotch brand). The picture below shows the first row of ramp slices applied.

The edges of the foam board are nice and sharp and give me a smooth even joint all along the face where the two halves of the base meet. I did run into one problem with the foam board - I had to buy two pieces and one of them is about 1/2 mm thicker than the other. That leaves a noticeable ridge where the base halves meet. To correct that, I used a board to press down along the edge of the offending piece to compress it slightly. It's still there but not so noticeable now.

I'm printing out more tarmac slices as I type this and I hope to have the base completely covered by tomorrow.

Cheers,

Russ

That is looking great Russ!!  Yes  Yes  How does it feel to see the light at the end of the tunnel?  This is going to look fantastic!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:21 PM

Thanks, Jim! I sure hope so Big Smile.

Russ

 

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Posted by Buffirn on Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:18 PM

Looking good!

This will be a spectacular looking diorama when you are done!

Jim Williams

 

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    April 2012
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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:38 PM

Hi, All,

I'm a happy camper again today! Big Smile. I found just the right system to lay down the ramp slices on the base. Many thanks, Dom, for suggesting the double-sided tape - it's working out great! I used a heavy duty cloth double-sided carpet tape from Ace Hardware to attach the foam board to the base. The picture below shows the base with the foam board applied.

Next, I'm using 3/4" double-sided cellophane tape to attach each tarmac slice to the foam board (I'm using a brand called "2 Side It" Permanent tape. It seems a lot stronger and stickier than the Scotch brand). The picture below shows the first row of ramp slices applied.

The edges of the foam board are nice and sharp and give me a smooth even joint all along the face where the two halves of the base meet. I did run into one problem with the foam board - I had to buy two pieces and one of them is about 1/2 mm thicker than the other. That leaves a noticeable ridge where the base halves meet. To correct that, I used a board to press down along the edge of the offending piece to compress it slightly. It's still there but not so noticeable now.

I'm printing out more tarmac slices as I type this and I hope to have the base completely covered by tomorrow.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:28 PM

Lol Jim! That's true! I think it's even mentioned in our AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code) description Big Smile

Russ

 

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  • From: Middletown, OH
Posted by Buffirn on Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:16 AM

Striker8241

 And you left out certified nut... Big Smile

I thought being an ECM troop already covered that!Big Smile

I guess I can't say too much.  I loved riding around in them at low altitude at night.  That is certifiable.

Jim

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:42 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

 

Nice work Russ!  Yes  Yes  That in itself was a lot of work!  Have you been keeping track of the hours you have been spending putting all of this together?

Ken

 

Thanks, Ken! Big Smile  No, I haven't been keeping track. I started working on it last May and I guess I've averaged about 8 hours a week, so that's over 400 hours so far.

Cheers,

Russ

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:52 AM

Striker8241

Hi, All,

With the base almost ready, I've begun creating the individual slices of the ramp tarmac for printing. Below is  a map of the ramp slices and a print out of slice B-4 with the various effects for that slice applied. Once I create files for all the slices I can print them out and begin to piece them together like a mosaic.

Cheers,

Russ

Nice work Russ!  Yes  Yes  That in itself was a lot of work!  Have you been keeping track of the hours you have been spending putting all of this together?

Ken

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:36 AM

Bish

That answers it nicely. Given the lovely finish on the base, I was wondering if you were putting the scene on it as it was.

Ahh, I gotcha Big Smile.

 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:33 AM

That answers it nicely. Given the lovely finish on the base, I was wondering if you were putting the scene on it as it was.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, May 24, 2013 9:59 PM

Lol, Dom! No, I'm not Italian - I come from the German branch of the tree Smile. And you left out certified nut... Big Smile

Thanks for the holiday wishes; I wish you the same, bud,

Russ

 

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Friday, May 24, 2013 9:50 PM

Russ:

All those tiles,

You sure you are not Italian?Wink

I call those tarmac marks "pawprints"

I am absolutely enjoying seeing you put this

project into operational mode.

Now you are a certified model maker, cabinet maker, and graphic artist......

Russ, Happy Memorial Day!

-Dom

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, May 24, 2013 9:39 PM

Hi, All,

With the base almost ready, I've begun creating the individual slices of the ramp tarmac for printing. Below is  a map of the ramp slices and a print out of slice B-4 with the various effects for that slice applied. Once I create files for all the slices I can print them out and begin to piece them together like a mosaic.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, May 24, 2013 4:26 PM

Thanks for the good words, Bish.

The base is 38 x 40 in. when the two halves are connected. Not sure what you mean by leaving it like that. It will be that color; however, I do plan to attach sheets of 1/4 in thick plastic poster board to the tops of the base to provide a smoother surface for the tarmac sheets; it will also provide a sharper and more exact joint than I couldn't achieve by sanding the matching faces of the two base halves. Finally, I plan to have a Lucite (or glass) cover made for the base. The finished diorama will sit on top of a display cabinet built especially for it.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, May 24, 2013 3:45 PM

Russ, that a stunning assortment of ground support you have there. I am just so glad I didn't do this 15 years ago when I first got this kit and wanted to do just this. How big is that base, and are you leaving it like that.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, May 24, 2013 2:43 PM

Lol!  I bet that major had to order a new uniform too...  Good story, Jim Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Buffirn on Friday, May 24, 2013 2:12 PM

That bomb trailer remoinds me of a exercise deployment story.  We always got to do the coolest things on exercises.  So, anyway, we, the planners, were allowed to help the MMS guys build the bombs for the live drop in two days.  Since this was a low level drop, all the weapons were fuzed with an FMU-139.  Really cool fuze that required a whole string of things before it would go boom.  So, as the MMS troops put the fuzes in the tail, we were putting on the nose caps and high drag tails.  As my boss was straddling one of the bombs while tightening the nose cap, one of the guys from the office picked up a piece of 2x4 and slapped in down on the bed of the trailer behind the good Major.  It made a tremendous crack.  It is amazing how far you can jump when you think the bomb you are straddling has exploded.  While the Major didn't think it was so funny, the rest of us thought it was hilarious.  Crew dog humor at its best!

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, May 24, 2013 11:32 AM

Thanks for the good words, Ken! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, May 24, 2013 5:49 AM

Striker8241

Hi, All,

I've started weathering some of my support equipment and the aircraft. I still don't have my paint booth set up so it's rattle cans and manual labor. These trucks travelled over mostly dirt roads to get the bombs to the planes so they were frequently coated with dust. Even though the Air Force mandated they be washed regularly, mission requirements often prevented that.

 

And here's the weathered left horizontal stabilizer, just to give you an idea where I'm going...

  

Cheers,

Russ

Nice job on the weathering Russ!  It looks very realistic!  A very nice touch!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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