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Group Build Idea... "Wasting Away"
Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Monday, June 26, 2006 2:20 PM

Group Build
WASTING AWAY

Start Date: No time like the present!  Taking on new members until its over!

End Date: End of the year?

 

Build Members: (All a big maybe at the moment)

  • Fish-Head Aric: Maschinen Krieger Gans, battle-damaged and long wasted away. 
  • terry35:  "probably an m20 or a universal carrier which I seen on another site with a tree growing up through the center and a complete rust finish"
  • onyxman: A DEFINITE MAYBE? 
  • gulfstreamV:   "...F-250 Xtrra cab that I converted to a single cab in a box over the weekend. I'm going to add that to my list and turn it into a found off road dead build. It was all broken up, tires mirrors etc. It will be my rust project!"
  • Jaypack55: "2 1:48 monogram P-40Bs just waiting to be rebuilt, though the quality of their first time was less than desirable, since they're going to be broken down, all the old fit problems/broken parts are now OK."
  • zokissima: "couple of resin Verlinden diver figures, and wanted to show them about to inspect a  rusted, shot-to-s**** T-34, half sunk into a swamp."
  • scotty: Naboo fighter scene of some sort
  • ssgkopp: "AT'ST in a bad way"
  • stipp: A Maschinen Krieger kit
  • mg42gunner: "...dragon pak 40, abandoned in a forest, or a field."

This Group Build is for all those weathered, worn and totally delapitated cars, tanks, boats, aircraft, space craft, etc... - any model that portrays something manmade gone totally to the elements!

The focus of this Group Build will not on the model itself, but rather on the model subject's terrible state of disrepair and deterioration...  Quite often it's not so much "what we're building" as it is getting what ever it is to look totally battered, rusted, chipped away and moldering into uselessness.  There is a lot of good material to discuss on techniques for the wear and tear of wood, metal, stone, and all that. 

We offer thanks to terry35 for his great piece of rust that inspired this build with this fine little work that he title "lost abandoned forgotten":

There are so many possibilities here in all genre of modelling:  Perhaps some sort of WWII equipment gone to trash from abandonment... or maybe get really ambitious and do one of my favorite things to see - a rusting hulk of a shipwreck on the beach, crashed and derelict spacecraft, etc.

If the "Wasting Away" group build is something you could really get into, post your interest here and I will be glad to moderate as things begin to really gather moss and crumble. 

RSVP...

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by MBT70 on Monday, June 26, 2006 5:26 PM
I'll just post a photo of myself and win hands down ....
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Posted by gulfstreamV on Monday, June 26, 2006 6:53 PM
 MBT70 wrote:
I'll just post a photo of myself and win hands down ....
.Big Smile [:D] Thats a good one.. As far as a Group Build idea thats pretty good too. Maybe a good way to use one of those builds that just went wrong in someway...(I have a "few" of those)....Cool [8D]
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Posted by Jaypack55 on Monday, June 26, 2006 8:12 PM
hmm, I think I could get into something like this... It'd be a good way to learn new techniques, too. If I can find a kit to use, I'm inBig Smile [:D]

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:54 PM

Sounds like we have a couple definite maybe's?  That could almost qualify for a Group Build, eh? 

Terry, who posted that awesome rust-bucket extraordinaire...  http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/639511/ShowPost.aspx 
...was the one that moved me to get this idea rolling... so there's a plug for his great "piece-of-junk" (meant as a compliment for the success of the "trashing of the model.").

Anyway, as stated previously, I am using the first message as the intro for the build... and am now altering the message accordingly as the build comes together.

So, please refer to message 1 to see how things are shaping up?  Thankee.

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Jaypack55 on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:52 PM
Oh, man! you really got me started! last night, went through my old kit stash and found 2 1:48 monogram P-40Bs just waiting to be rebuilt, though the quality of their first time was less than desirable, since they're going to be broken down, all the old fit problems/broken parts are now OK. Even if the GB doesn't go through, you have given me an inspiration, and I can't wait to get started! Thumbs Up [tup]Big Smile [:D]

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by onyxman on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:52 AM

Very intriguing! I don't know when I'll find the time away from the major kit-bash I'm doing now but I can envision several great subjects, particularly with wrecked ships.

I've been thinking of something like this ever since I was on Saipan about 15 years ago and saw an old Japanese Type 97 tank rotting away in the brush.  I thought it would be fun to do a 'before' ( 1944) and an 'after' (2006) project. Anyone, i'll probably never get to this so feel free to steal my idea. :)

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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:55 AM
I think I want in on this, provided the time frame was VERY generous. I have a couple of resin Verlinden diver figures, and wanted to show them about to inspect a  rusted, shot-to-s**** T-34, half sunk into a swamp.
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:55 AM

Well, I think we have a build in the making for sure!  Good enough for me to say it's a done deal!

It sounds like we have a fair start of maybes and probably at least a few definites... So, keep 'em coming, guys!  If you are considering and thinking on it say so, and will make you a "definite maybe".  If you are jumping into it fullbore, then I'll flag you as "definite."  Just tell me what you have in mind, and I will put your intended subject by your name on message one.

I agree about a very generous time-frame because this isn't just out-of-the-box.  We're talking about build it, bust it, rework and all.  And it almost goes without saying that when you are doing this sort of model you probably want to put it in a diorama of some sort, even if it is a mini-dio.  Being this is a defininte "kitbash with details" project involving at the minimum a lot of extra paint care, and beyond that some serious alterations to give the model a beat-up look, PLUS the creation of a diorama setting for it, I think extra time is really vital.

For a timeframe... Does anyone object to making a "Mid-July" start with room for more to join in later?  And for "end date"... would it be stretching it enough to say "November", or just take it to the end of the year?

And you guys still thinking, go on, take a step and say "put me on the 'definite maybe list'!"

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Jaypack55 on Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:15 AM
why not just start it now, and let people join when they want to? (sorry, that's just my opinion because I've already started mine!Big Smile [:D])

-Josh

Current Builds: If I were to list everything I have in progress, it'd take way too long! Some notable inclusions:

Hasegawa 1:48 KI-84

Tamiya 1:48 P-51D (in Iwo Jima long-range escort markings)

4 (yes, four) Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1s (1x -1D, 1x -1A, and 2x -1s)

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:53 AM

Works for me... no big deal there... so, starting now, and until.....?

 

Oh, and am currently in a hopeful of acquiring a Maschinen Krieger Krote, or Wave model... So really praying I can do a funked up Sci Fi battle wasteland scene...  I love these things!

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:08 AM

Aric, I'm in, just looking for a subject, I see your looking for a Sci- Fi subject, well let me think. Will be back later today.

Regards 

Terry. 

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Posted by scotty on Saturday, July 1, 2006 7:05 AM

Count me in too, found an old dusty Naboo fighter just lying around I was going to spray it up to it's former glory but this sounds more intresting and maybe a chance to learn some new techniques. Got alot on at the moment with my Eurofighter dio but this is one I'm going to watch & maybe start in the next 2 weeks or so..

 

Scott.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Saturday, July 1, 2006 7:39 PM

scotty beaming in?  Will get your name on the roster... and I think it is fair to let this be a nice, longdrawn timeframe of "end of the year."  The Naboo Fighter sounds like a great idea, especially if it'll mean being crashed in some forested or swampy place with lotsa rust, moss and algae potential!  I can just see the gaping holes now...  oooohhh.... and what about a skeletal pilot?  I will shut up now...

I am really hoping to land the MaK Gans to make something.... otherwise I will either take on a Star Wars or military subject. 

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by scotty on Sunday, July 2, 2006 7:09 AM

Cheers Aric, just gave away the surprise of my dio, oh well at least you all know what its supposed to look like when its finished.

 

Scott.

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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, July 2, 2006 10:52 AM

well Aric, I sitting here thinking and am closer to a light piece of armour, probably an m20 or a universal carrier which I seen on another site with a tree growing up through the center and a complete rust finish. If its the american scout car it will be upturned half buried in a ditch with all the wheels gone. Maybe with a few bullet holes and 50 years over grown, I'll want the viewer to look for a while to realise whst exactly they are looking at.

Confirm Tomorrow or early in the week.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Sunday, July 2, 2006 12:28 PM

sorry about that, Scott... I just really thought you had a cool idea, and forget that other people can think for themselves... hahaha!

Terry, looking forward to your stuff.  And I tried to write you back after you e-mailed me, but for some reason the addy your message came from comes up as "undeliverable."  Do you have some sort of filter against hotmail messages?

Am personally hoping to make occasional photo updates of my model as it takes shape... after I get hold of one that is... but will have that down in the next two weeks one way or another.

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by terry35 on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 3:46 PM

Hey Aric got your E-mail. I did send you an idea which I thought might go Sci-Fi. and Armour, an APC from the Film Aliens maybe with a turret from another vehicle.

Anyhoo...... I started last night on an American M3 Stuart in Russian service, abandoned on a river bank completely overgrown and half sunk. A work colleague, Joe will also be joining in doing a burnt out BMP3.

Keep me posted, If theres a badge or not. Not that I use my interior GB badge, Montana cowboy designed it.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 12:31 AM

I won my eBay bid for the model I was hoping for!  Check it out:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=230002211993#ebayphotohosting

And of course, right after I win it, I see a model I would much rather have gotten go up for bid:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130003346614&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX#ebayphotohosting

Dern it all anyway... I got some really good, varied ideas on just what to do with this thing, but until I receive it and get a good looky at the model, I am not sure exactly.  I am rather prone to the idea of having it washed up on a beach, half-buried in the sand and rusted, covered with barnacles and such... and if I can get a look of waves splashing at it.  hmmmm... this could be really cool... little crabs and such nesting in it?  tick-tick-tick goes the brain here...

Now then, badges... yes, we really could use a badge! 

I am fairly good with making things using a paintshop-type program, so if anyone has an idea on badges... Lets offer up! I can do some funky effects with text and graphics, but will see what you guys all think for the design idea...

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Cpt.Sponder on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 3:08 AM
 Fish-Head Aric wrote:

 

The focus of this Group Build will not on the model itself, but rather on the model subject's terrible state of disrepair and deterioration...  Quite often it's not so much "what we're building" as it is getting what ever it is to look totally battered, rusted, chipped away and moldering into uselessness. 

 

i think i will go for the miniature computer:

http://www.thecybersource.com/images/bsod.jpg

;-P

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 7:51 AM

Shock [:O]THE BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!!!! ARRRGHHHHH!!!!Shock [:O]

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by ssgkopp on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 12:52 PM

Ill get into this 

 

Ill do a AT-ST in a bad way

 

k

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 1:49 PM

Welcome aboard, ssgkopp!

Are you working with the model AT-ST that has the little wind-up mechanism?  That's a funky little thing I remember building with my son as his first ever model!  Have seen some good things done with that kit.  Should be really good in just about any landscape, eh?

onyxman & gulfstreamV!  You guys still want in on the program?  Let me know what ya got in mind, and will update the first message accordingly.

BADGE BADGE BADGE!   I know these have sort of slipped in popularity, but does anyone have any ideas for a build badge, or desire to make it even?  I like doing those sorts of things, but want to leave the door open for ideas and such, or for anyone who might want to make one.

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by thunderbearr on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 10:23 PM

Not exactly wasting away, but darn close to it.

http://public.fotki.com/thunderbearr/space_1999_eagle/

 

Rob

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:37 PM

Very nice, and a good layer of moondust there, too!... That's one of my all-time favorite ships (though the series really did have some serious issues)... I think thunderrbearr ya should make a fresh thread and get all the glory you deserve that way!  Wink [;)] 

 You got any rustbuckets in the works for the timeframe of this build?

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by gulfstreamV on Thursday, July 6, 2006 10:01 PM
 Fish-Head Aric wrote:

Welcome aboard, ssgkopp!

Are you working with the model AT-ST that has the little wind-up mechanism?  That's a funky little thing I remember building with my son as his first ever model!  Have seen some good things done with that kit.  Should be really good in just about any landscape, eh?

onyxman & gulfstreamV!  You guys still want in on the program?  Let me know what ya got in mind, and will update the first message accordingly.

BADGE BADGE BADGE!   I know these have sort of slipped in popularity, but does anyone have any ideas for a build badge, or desire to make it even?  I like doing those sorts of things, but want to leave the door open for ideas and such, or for anyone who might want to make one.

OK I'm still a deffinite maybe! I' ve got two ideas, but I'am thinkin' your looking for nothing but rust? I have a Testors Learjet POC that I can show as an abandon, missed landing drug plane in the jungle wreck, overgrown and burned? Or a motorcycle on the outside of the garage. out in back in the weeds, on a milk crate in disrepair, but aluminium dosen't rust. Yet the oxidation and sunlight can do a number on the whole bike? Otherwise a rust bucket in the mud ain't my deal......Deffinetly Maybe............. Cool [8D]
Stay XX Thirsty, My Fellow Modelers.
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Friday, July 7, 2006 11:14 AM

awww I would say that any form of weathering would be good.  The big thing is what the wiles of time do to that whatever  that's been sitting out in the elements for who-knows-how-long.

Rust is, after all, only one dominating means of wasting away.  If you consider my own project idea... We have a complex mechanical unit comprised largely of metal and probably plastics, that has been sitting on a beach, probably washed up from deeper waters.  Looking at the weathering on this would include:  Rust rust rust.... breakdown and corrosion of materials, fading and cracking of paint, and damage from wind, sun and rain. The subject will most definitely be at least somewhat buried by the sand and gravel of the beach. On top of that, the ocean provides some other rather unique telltales of time's tolls:  Barnacles, mussels, seaweed and such.  That sort of stuff, while not a direct result of breakdown, is definitely a factor that contributes to the condition of the modelled subject.  Most likely I will want to see if I can show water pooled around it, maybe a splash from the changing tides.

The Space 1999 Eagle shown up above, while not rusting, definitely has signs of age and weathering through it's scruffy, discolored appearance and obvious tellings of lack of maintenance - missing bits and such.  I would say that model, while obviously completed prior to this build getting going, should get some sort of "honorary recognition" as it does provide a variation of the "wasting away" theme.

So, I would say there are definitely many forms of "wasting away," including rust, cracking, fading, wind-erosion, dust and sediment build-up, moss/algae/lichen build-ups, etc.

So jump in, show us what ya got in mind and lets run with it?

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by gulfstreamV on Friday, July 7, 2006 6:36 PM
Cool Aric, I see what you mean..Thinking about it.. How about a plane at Davis-Monthan bone yard? I think I have a A4 scooter I messed up that might do the trick??...........Cool [8D] I gues what I'm saying is ...OK I"m in....Now I just have to find a good camera and some time........Cool [8D]
Stay XX Thirsty, My Fellow Modelers.
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Posted by stipp on Friday, July 7, 2006 7:24 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/Stipp08/000_1041.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/Stipp08/000_1040.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/Stipp08/000_1039.jpg

Hey Aric, i got a few kits i would like to use, but dont know which one? i`ll let you decide, i wont be able to start until late August or September due to my moving into a new house.

Jerry

 

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, July 8, 2006 10:35 AM

Hey Aric, Tery here, I see this GB. is gathering momentum, great. I liked thte bit with the Eagle Transporter.

I dont know if any body knows but I have 4 Studio replicas of this ship in 22inch scale as kits, they are my pride and joy.

Regards terry.

 

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