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Group Build Idea... "Wasting Away"

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Saturday, July 8, 2006 11:10 AM

Terry:   yup, we got quite a nice roll going here. 

gulfstreamV:  Very cool idea.  Got you on the build list at the beginning.  I always liked the look of the airplanes long forgotten.  There's a sci-fi art book I have from when I was a teen, called "Spacewreck - Derelicts of Space" that has a lot of images that are reminiscent of abandoned and delapidating aircraft. I used to spend a lot of time looking at the art in it and appreciating the rusting, moldering crafts... the derelicts floating in space... etc.  My current build idea actually stems from those pondering times... though I wasn't thinking of that when getting started - it is obvious in hindsight.

Everyone:  No feedback on GB Badge?  Guess I'll do the damage myself then, and submit the idea to ya all. 

Terry has suggested to me that we might want to migrate to a new thread to focus on the models as they take shape.  So, what are the thoughts on that?  A new thread with progress posts as the main focus? 

I know that I will be a bit before I receive my own kit and can start, though I am a little concerned about it getting to me at all - coming off eBay and out of Hong Kong... but I may get rolling with something based on one of several other 1/72 WWII armor kits I have that are sitting in need of attention.

I feel a little guilty on this build project, because I did kick off another build in Sci-Fi months back and then somewhere along the line it got lost, even though there were a number of folks involved.  Part of my own blame is that I never got far with what I was working on... Somewhere along the line it just dropped off. I only hope I can be forgiven for that. 

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, July 8, 2006 2:49 PM

Hey Aric, Terry here I just mailed you, Sitting here looking at the thread, its starting to feel homely.

This thread should definitly be the base or home thread.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Sunday, July 9, 2006 3:21 PM

I agree... No place like home...

And, I just paid for my Gans!  Now gotta wait for it to fly to me... twiddle-twiddle go the thumbs...  I think I may just rust-up one of those Hasegawa kits in the meantime.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 10, 2006 11:03 AM
I've got one of the old Monogram New York Central Hudson locomotive kits someplace in my stash. I'm thinking I could do a diorama of the rusted former thourghbred sitting on a railyard siding meeting her end by the scrapers torch.
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Monday, July 10, 2006 1:39 PM

CaptainDon!  I see you're new on da forums!  Firstly, welcome aboard!

As for your model idea, that would be an AWESOME project.  I, being a railfan for some time now, would really love to see a rusted old hulk model like that! 

Does that make you a "maybe do" or can I chalk you up as "gonna git 'er done yupyupyup"?

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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:48 PM

Terry Here, just a quick check in, I like the rail road idea, a Locomotive would ber a superb subject, I served the first year of my apprenticeship in a school that was in a rail yard and some of the old hulks I seen would bring a tear to your eye.

Any hoo, I started the ground work yesterday, I going to include two figures of children, playing around the half sunken hulk of an American M3 in Soviet service, so it would have been abandoned or lost in the eastern front Theatre. More with pics soon.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:44 PM
 terry35 wrote:

...going to include two figures of children, playing around the half sunken hulk of an American M3 in Soviet service, so it would have been abandoned or lost in the eastern front Theatre. More with pics soon.

Well now, am really curious to see how your rusted beach-hulk comes out, because we seem to be right on the same line. 

I just recently joined a Ma.K site and discussed my Gans model project there.  I sounded off there on the idea of having a couple of kids playing around my model, too...  Seemed like a really cool idea.

One thing is certain - nothing wears away metal hulks like a good sit in the ocean.

Waiting for my model fron Hong Kong still... fidget-fidget

 

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:30 PM

Well Aric going to let some more outta the bag, it will be called "The secret Playground", from the front you will only see a hedge, but behind it will be a heavily sloped bank, maybe some tidal river at low tide.

At low tide because I want to put a high tide mark, ie. lots of caked on muck.  I am going to the dolls house shop to try get a miniature pram for the little girl also I have some small scale
Presier figures and believe one of the females will do as some kind of barbie doll in her hand. the little boy will have a fishing rod ( Maybe), the children are from the SOL range, my mate GIT gave them to me the other day. the hatches are going to be missing and the inside detailed. The Hull was cut just above below the fighting compartment and the hull will be standing between 60 and 90 degrees. The ground work will be done by the weekend and the inside of the vehicle early next week.

Am going to assemble some of the indy links to put on the vehicle broken.

Sorry forgot to give dimensions, 135mm X 135mm, river 20mm deep approx, ground height 60mm.

Hedge about another 20mm. maybe I'll forget the hedge and do it behind a giant road side poster.

Forgotten and secret.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:32 PM

Hi, everybody I'm posting some work in progress shots, this is all I've done so far

All comments and questions welcome as usual.

 

Thanks again,

Regards,

Terry

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Posted by ssgkopp on Saturday, July 15, 2006 6:56 PM

looks good  nice base and a great idea

 

 

k

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Sunday, July 16, 2006 7:53 AM

That's some dirty looking dirt there, Terry!  Wink [;)]

What kit is that you're abusing?

My Ma.K Gans is on its way from Hong Kong, and am guessing will see it Monday.

How's all ya other people doing?  Anyone else got a start on theirs?

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by stipp on Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:23 AM

Well Aric, i havent started on mine yet and wont be til after August because of my move, but i got some ideas and i just might change the suit, I might just go with the PKA instead, or an AFS.

Do we have a badge yet??

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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:09 AM

Terry here, seeing as how I have a minute before I go out to the back garden again,

The ground was built up with styro foam (scrap) the mud is model rail ballast, mixed with a very sandy gravel which I found covers a carpark in wicklow. For the bank I mixed up plaster with white glue and tamiya kakhi paint, and literally plastered it on, and before it got a chance to dry I sprinkled some of the carpark gravel over it.

Well I'm off to the garden, because its too hot in here.

Regards,

Terry.

P.S. Aric I'm looking forward to your first posts.

 

  

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Posted by ssgkopp on Sunday, July 16, 2006 12:53 PM

started on the AT-ST today  just working on smoothing all those terrible seams and gaps

 

going to find a base for it then ill start on the rest 

 

going slowly as a broke my right hand last week and even cutting sprue hurts but i will survive

 

k

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:27 PM

I checked my mailbox and got a package notice from the post office, so my son has the errand of picking it up today.  Tentatively - should be the Ma-K Gans I ordered on eBay!

Will know soon... soon... When I get home tonight!

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:21 AM

And I cracked open my box last night... rather, my son picked up the package and he and Mom opened the package...

So, I get home, and they met me out front because we were rushing off to see "Pirates"... We walked because the theater is just two blocks away.  After the movie we're coming up the street and I say, "Phillip, could you pick up the package at the post office?"

Phillip says, "No," and naturally I'm a bit concerned by such a response.

Mom says, "He can't do that," and I sit here thinking quickly, "huh-what-huh?" 

After which, I think "duh!" and say, "Oh, he got it already?"

"Yes," and as I ask if they looked in, sure enough they had, and the first thing they saw was pages to a Hong Kong magazine having a half-page ad for scantily clad Chinese "pleasure girls"!!!! 

The model was packed in a box with shredded paper, lined with magazine pages of some sort - looking like a catalog for auto stuff - oil, stereos, etc... but also a half-page spread of numerous phone numbers and pretty Chinese girlies obviously intended to ... well anyway... Mom was quite amused at the idea of giving me a bad time about "porn numbers from China."  Phillip, 15 yrs. old, was quite embarassed by the whole thought of talking about it as I teased and tried to make light of the event. 

As for the model, the kit looks very nicely molded plastic, with lots of parts and details.  1/20 scale is pretty fair size.  I am more accustomed to small stuff, so this is cool change.

On the "hmmm" side... I don't know if I want to make this thing into a rusted P.O.S. anymore!  This is a really funky looking model and looks like it would be more fun to create in action.  So, I have decided to actually take this bugger and put it into a scene, and pick up another Ma.K kit to waste away on the beach, with this unit walking on by.  A sort of "old battle site revisited" theme.  Am going to scrounge and see if anyone online has any partial kits they don't want, and do it that way. 

Therefore, that's what I am gonna do, yup yup yup. 

Anyone out there have any 1/20 scale partial models of Ma.K / SF3D genre, that you want to dump?

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Posted by stipp on Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:28 PM
Aric, i have a Gans too, i really did nt get rid of all of my stuff, just most of it, the best place to get a decent priced kit quickly is ebay, just type in sf3d.
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:23 AM

Well was going to try get some progress reports but it will have to wait till next week, a friend of mine passed away, so I have to go to a funeral.

Will post at earliest.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by mg42gunner on Monday, July 24, 2006 7:35 PM
Hello, I would like to know if there is still time to join this group build? I would like to join, and I will be building the dragon pak 40, abandoned in a forest, or a field. By the way, this is a great idea for a group build!
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Posted by gulfstreamV on Monday, July 24, 2006 10:45 PM
Aric, I found a model of a F-250 Xtrra cab that I converted to a single cab in a box over the weekend. I'm going to add that to my list and turn it into a found off road dead build. It was all broken up, tires mirrors etc. It will be my rust project!.......stayCool [8D]
Stay XX Thirsty, My Fellow Modelers.
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:14 AM

Stipp,
That's exactly how I landed my Gans from Hong Kong.  Courtesy of seller predatorgundam.  Thanks for the input.

Terry,
Am very sorry to hear about your loss.  Please don't feel ya have to rush a model project, eh?  That's why I figured best to leave this as a somewhat open build, wrapping up at the end of the year - IF we feel it's accomplished its purpose.  It could go on indefinitely for all I care.  Take time to observe those things of life that are of most importance... and yes, modeling is not necessarily that - nor is sitting here staring at forums all day, eh?

mg42gunner,
Welcome aboard!  You showed interest, and can consider yerself SHANGHAI'D into service!  Got you on the front page roster!  And thanks for the good word, I really thought the build idea would be something different and yet still focused in its own way, yes.  And of course, I have personal interest in learning from this. 

gulfstreamV,
Got you all updated for your project idea!  Thanks much.

 

As for me and my work, I think I will stick with my original plan of wasting this Gans model.  This thing is really a cool looking kit, and I can justify giving it the works, after all, what better way to honor a model than to do it all out in what ever way you really want, eh?

 

Everyone else!  Where/how/why are you doing?  Been quiet, and I understand folks taking all the time they need to evealuate their plans.  Just curious and would love to hear from ya all!

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Posted by scotty on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:04 PM

How am I doing ? Well all my plans have gone out the window for now at least, we're having some trouble with the weather over here its all gone mental with the heat. in my workplace today the thermo read 38 degrees which is a little hot even with the window open and fan blowing full, still hope to start as soon as the weather cools a little.

 

Scott.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:19 PM
So then, it's become a "half-baked idea"?  Smile [:)]
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Posted by terry35 on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:02 PM

Terry here, got some work done yesterday, heres the pics, lets call it an update, the water effect is going to take a few days to dry as it consists of a lot of actual water in its solution.

Well here we go.......

Thanks for looking,

Thanks Aric for your condolence,

Regards,

Terry Burke.

P.S while the water is drying I'm going to do the childern and the toys.

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Posted by Kolschey on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:38 PM
Hey there,

Looks like a good start. It'll be fun to see how it turns out.

Krzysztof Mathews http://www.firstgearterritories.com

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:13 AM

The many color variations in the weathered paint and rust, and the paint-to-rust surfacing is really great!  At the risk of taking a hit, I think the look is much more effective than your first wreck model (image I pirated for the first message of this thread). 

My kit is 1/20 scale.  I know from spending a lot of time around marine-rusted hulks that painted metal, when exposed to the marine environment over years, can peel off in layered chunks, so am considering how to emulate that in an effective way for the scale.

I should be getting going with the kit this weekend, if not a little sooner.  Have decided to paint it with a camo style similar to the late WWII three-color german armor units, or at least the tan and green of the three.  I wonder if I can find a 1/20 scale seagull or two somewhere... hmmm...

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Posted by stipp on Friday, July 28, 2006 1:21 PM

Aric, the three color camo you described was used very little during late ww2 what they did use was the dark yellow or panzer dunkel gelb and the green or the rust red, Testors make the best paints for enamel and Vallejo is good for acrylics.

I ALWAYS base my SDR forces on the axis forces ie... paint equiptment and such, andthe same for the Mercenary are based on the allies. like the RAF paint and camo.

Just small tid bits of info for you.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Friday, July 28, 2006 4:47 PM
I picked up bottles of the three camo colors for a WWII Panther kit my son has been working. The kit is Tamiya, and coincidentally so are the paints.  I am still tossed about using 2 or 3 color camo, or maybe just making the model gray.  In any case it will end up mostly rust, with a lot of discolor where ever the paint is still visible.
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:06 PM

Well I type here to report the first disaster of the GB, The water did not turn out right at all. I'm trying to fiddle out an idea where I can make it look like a mud bank on a tidal river or something like that but will keep the bottom section as wet as possible.

Terry

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Posted by stipp on Monday, July 31, 2006 4:10 PM
Aric, a little bit of paint will go a long way, meaning, if you use just the two colors I think it would look much better, like the panzer dark yellow base coat with the red oxide paint on top, it is alwys best to refer to the original pics of german tanks and such to get an idea, but alot of them were just rushed paint jobs with rags and such, but in 2888 you could have the same camo just a little bit neater and maybe a bit more complex! like the newer splinter camo or real tree stuff.
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