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Messerschmitt BF109 GB 2012

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:21 PM

The 1/32 CH Bf110C-7 has a 19 3/4" wingspan and a length of 14 3/4" (call it 15" with the longest barrel in the nose).

with a Hasegawa Bf109 F-2 for comparison

hope that this helps.

DoogsATX, the Squadron/Signal Walk Around #34 "Messerschmitt Bf109E" has a great section on the Swiss E's that might be of some help on your G.... 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:13 PM

Nathan T

Cool choice. Not sure about the 704 scheme if it was authentic or not (sandy brown and 74?). 109s in foreign markings look cool nonetheless, I'm contemplating a G-2 in Rumanian or Swiss markings to finish off this group build myself. Not too familiar with big scale 109s so can't really help you in the A/M department, apart from a new spinner and reshaping the supercharger intake. Maybe just a few cockpit and radiator flap enhancements?

J-704 was originally delivered in the standard 74/75/76 but was damaged in a crash in 1945 and subsequently repainted (it also received an Erla hood somewhere along the way). The camo scheme isn't Luftwaffe but Swiss, using Swiss colors.

I'm kinda leaning toward it just because so many 109s are done in the 74/75/76. That and because I wouldn't have to mask the fuselage stripes Stick out tongue

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:53 PM

In 1/32, a Bf 110 has a 19" wingspan. Versus I think 11" for a 109 and ~15" for a Jug. It's big, definitely, but not this big:

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:50 PM

Cool choice. Not sure about the 704 scheme if it was authentic or not (sandy brown and 74?). 109s in foreign markings look cool nonetheless, I'm contemplating a G-2 in Rumanian or Swiss markings to finish off this group build myself. Not too familiar with big scale 109s so can't really help you in the A/M department, apart from a new spinner and reshaping the supercharger intake. Maybe just a few cockpit and radiator flap enhancements?

 

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:41 PM

Tucohoward

Dre, thanks for the heads up. I have not measured it mustang, but 1 1/2 times a 109 I would guess.  

Any in box pics????

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:40 PM

Doogs....the 117 looks awesome! Paint scheme really stands out nicely. Thats my two cents.

                   

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Posted by Tucohoward on Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:50 PM

Dre, thanks for the heads up. I have not measured it mustang, but 1 1/2 times a 109 I would guess.  

The Mighty Mo says no.

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:38 PM

Looking forward to your build Doogs.  For what it's worth, I like the look of J-711 but 714 has a more... unique look/scheme.  I would assume you are going to have to paint the stripes and Swiss emblems, good luck with that Stick out tongue

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:44 AM

Alright...I'm FINALLY ready to roll with a 109. Not the Airfix of earlier, but a 1/32 Hasegawa G-14 that I'll build as a tall-tailed, Erla-hooded G-6 in Swiss service.

Still sorting exactly what and how much aftermarket I want to throw at this kit, and I also need to figure out if I want to do J-711 or J-704.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:10 AM

Tucohoward- I'm not in this GB, but I read of you working on the CH Bf110..  be very careful with the engine and cowling parts- they're all dependent upon each other for the right fit and alignment.  

In other words, a total nightmare of over-engineering (but those engines are sweet).

The rest of the kit falls together with a minimum of fuss.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:00 AM

Tucohoward

I will post pictures as I progress. I have never built a twin engine plane before or one with a black paint scheme. From all accounts black is not easy to pull off so we'll see. This thing is also very large. Not sure where I will put it. Time for a bigger display case. Looks like a good kit although the directions are pretty iffy.

Looks like you may have to clean out a parking space in the garage to display that thing. I can't imagine how big the 110 must be. Just out of curiosity what are the dimensions on that bird in 32nd scale? And then there is an offering for a 32nd scale He-111 also. I'm sure thats a monster too. I would like to follow the 110 build though. I do like em.

                   

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Posted by Tucohoward on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:20 PM

I will post pictures as I progress. I have never built a twin engine plane before or one with a black paint scheme. From all accounts black is not easy to pull off so we'll see. This thing is also very large. Not sure where I will put it. Time for a bigger display case. Looks like a good kit although the directions are pretty iffy.

The Mighty Mo says no.

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Posted by Reasoned on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:18 PM

Tucohoward

Working on a Cyber-Hobby 1/32 Bf110 nightfighter.

That I'd like to see.

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:31 AM

Hey mustang, really turning out nice! Glad to see people are still working on 109s. I am just getting back to the bench after a month or so. Vacation, building a new bike, grandson, and other stuff got in the way. Working on a Cyber-Hobby 1/32 Bf110 nightfighter.

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Posted by Reasoned on Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:58 PM

mustang1989

 I have a Zvezda 109 that I would love to build......... I would love to get in another 109 group build eventually though.

Ditto

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, October 20, 2012 6:52 AM

I would jump in on another 109 build but this 190 thing is going to consume ALOT of time. To me the Eduard kit is not only going to be more enjoyable to build than my Trumpeter 109 but its also going to be more detailed. I have a Zvezda 109 that I would love to build and probably will sometime in 14. I would love to get in another 109 group build eventually though.

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, October 19, 2012 12:56 PM

Joe...

Aero book is a good one! Another I have is Focke-Wulf Fw 90 by Robert Grinsell W / illustrations by Rikyu Watanabe (bought mine on Amazon, used) Not a big thick book but alot of very cool illustrations, photos, and cut away views, and several fold outs. I have a few others but find myself turning to this one for a great starting point.

Reasoned...

Im with you on the 109, Im game to keep this one going or join in on another! As I said before, the Deadly Duo ... Me109, Fw190... any time any where!!!

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Make Lemonade!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, October 15, 2012 10:23 PM

Thanks to you all. You know I'm really going to be leaning on alot of you for the Fw190 build because I don't know sh-you know wut about a 190! I do feel somewhat relieved because my Aero Detail book for the 190 is on the way but I will need you guys too. Thanks again, Joe

                   

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Posted by Reasoned on Monday, October 15, 2012 10:01 PM

Joe, you knocked it out with that one.Yes

 

This has been my fav GB since joining FSM.... of course I am partial to 109's Angel

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Posted by stoutfella on Monday, October 15, 2012 8:03 PM

Verrrry nice!

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, October 15, 2012 7:59 PM

Thanks alot fellas. I don't know about the readers gallery. Haven't given it much thought actually.

                   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, October 15, 2012 5:57 PM

Joe - Absolutely Magnificant. I mean it, you need to be really proud of the results of your efforts as I know hard you worked on this. Do I smell a Reader's Gallery entry to FSM?

                                                Joe

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, October 15, 2012 4:00 PM

Again Joe...Excellent work!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, October 15, 2012 9:29 AM

Ok folks. Just a few odds and ends left. Slowly but surely it's getting there. I aint too worried about the ejector pin marks on the prop base. They aint gonna be seen anyways. If you like filling and sanding those things then Trumpter is the kit for you!

                   

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:14 AM

Thanks Mustang. I had a nafterthought that I should have stuck it to the front of the fuselage for the photo :)

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, October 8, 2012 11:04 AM

Hey Tony,

Man you are coming right along with that thing and it's looking good so far. Nice radial engine! haha

                   

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, October 7, 2012 6:15 PM

Thanks guys. I'm trying to keep this one moving. having done most of the major construction, I'm just in the progress of fixing up the seams. There are a few that need some work. I've used CA for the main fuselage seam, and the upper to lower wing join, they're done.

The wing to fuselage join is a little problematic, and I've resorted to strip styrene to fill a couple of significant gaps there. Hopefully I can finalise this work tonight. Not shown in the photos but I've also completed construction on the propeller and spinner. BTW, that's a Corsair engine in the 2nd photo, careless of me to leave it in shot.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:58 PM

Tony... I would need a microscope to do such nice work on a 72nd ,  shoot I think they are making 48s smaller now!LOL Nice work!

Joe, as always, exceptional ... This build has really been a delite for me, and just to see the talanted builders here...Bravo one and all, I hope the Butcher Bird Build is going to be as good, No doubt in my mind! Special thanks to PZL for taking point on this one. I know its been discussed but... Part 2 maybe?

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:01 AM

The tires are not installed yet. Still have to do some work on those. Right now they are just resting up against the landing gear struts. Haven't posted a picture in a while and wanted to give an update.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:57 AM

Taxtp-Good going so far. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one still building. ha ha.

Well folks here is the updated picture of the work so far. Paint is finished, control surfaces are slowly but surely going on(with a foul up or so along the way but corrected already) and now the landing gear is going on. Here it is so far:

                   

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