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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, October 19, 2012 12:17 PM

I haven't tried to do that yet...  sounds like putting the FU back in "fun".

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 19, 2012 1:39 PM

Enough with the whining already...decal that mug and move on, trooper...

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, October 19, 2012 2:03 PM

yehbo Bwana.

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Posted by fermis on Friday, October 19, 2012 7:01 PM

Dre

This being the decal work of which I spoke of yesterday...

I'm going to touch-up some of the decals with paint as some had minor tears and a little creeping shrinkage from the SolvaSet...  hairline white lines appeared between the black and red rings.   I'll get the final green rings put on tonight and possibly the two aircraft numbers on the nose, but they might require a little surgery to fit around the two instrument probes in that area.  

Get all that done I can begin weathering this turd...

MAN!!!...good luck getting all them layers to snuggle down into the panel lines!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 19, 2012 8:45 PM

Dre

This being the decal work of which I spoke of yesterday...

I'm going to touch-up some of the decals with paint as some had minor tears and a little creeping shrinkage from the SolvaSet...  hairline white lines appeared between the black and red rings.   I'll get the final green rings put on tonight and possibly the two aircraft numbers on the nose, but they might require a little surgery to fit around the two instrument probes in that area.  

Get all that done I can begin weathering this turd...

It looks as though there are faint "placement shadows" on the initial "base" decal...what's up with that?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 19, 2012 10:53 PM
Dre
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Posted by Dre on Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:25 AM

Fermis, I'm going to use a #11 blade to help them lay down into the panel lines...

Manny,  a little weekend fun?

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:42 AM

...yes...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:13 AM

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:16 AM

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:20 AM

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:56 AM

Yep, the 29 was actually fairly small when compared to other 3rd generation fighters----from all countries....although it shared a very similar shape to the Flanker...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:12 AM

I have made Tamiya's 1/32 F-16 (don't have it anymore) but the Mig 29 and F-16 were roughly the same size. Although the Mig 29 was until the new Eurofighter came out the most maneuverable jet fighter ever made. F-16 sustains 9G turns, Mig29 sustains 12G turns, new generation Typhoon 12G, so even though it's not new it's still awesome.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:57 AM

So, here is this weekend's work thus far.... panel line shadowed with thinned Tamiya clear smoke, a wash with W&N Payne's Grey acrylic watercolor for some details and then overall flat coated with MM acrylic flat mixed with 3 drops of Sand for some panel highlighting and dusty appearance.   I may still add some pastels for a dustier look.

Once I add the gear, doors, ordnance and probe, she's done.

direct sun..

and in shade..

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:48 PM

Wow, Dre----that looks a LOT better since you've marked her and done some toning down!!!!!!  I'd give it one more treatment of "toning-down" before calling it done....YesYes

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:55 PM

Yeah Dre that looks great.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:17 PM

Thanks, guys.   She's far from perfect- up close examination reveals all sorts of ugly stuff- I had thought to enter it in an upcoming local contest, but now not so much.

Dean-  I had wondered how the 1/32 MiG-29 compared in size to a 1/32 Flanker, now I know!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 3:42 PM

Lol yeah the flanker is really massive! Looking at your mig 21 I would like to see you make the Flanker as you did a really good job of that kit, and if I were you I'd enter the competition!

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:02 PM

LOL, I've got two of the 1/32 Flankers sitting behind me right now in various states of unfinished...

The nose cone fit on the B has had me stymied for months as I just can't think up a fix for it- either I reshape the cone with heat (scary thought) or I pack it full of milliput and start grinding and sanding it down to match the fuselage contours.  Otherwise, that bird is ready for painting.   The C got sidetracked by some other GB entries (Frogfoot and MiG-21).   I've got several Linden Hill and Begemot decal packages for each if I ever get back to them.

If you haven't tried one, look into Trumpeter's 1/32 Su-25UB as it's a fantastic kit with excellent details all the around and there's a kick-ass resin cockpit set for it as well as PE.  I've spent as much time on painting the Frogfoot's cockpit as I have spent on the entire MiG-21 project.

This is my main contest entry and has been getting all my love for a couple of months now... two weeks to finish it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:05 PM

So what's the skinny on the ill-filling Flanker nose-cone?  Pics would be nice...

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:18 PM

It's something that doesn't photograph well because I don't have enough hands to hold everything in place and the camera-- it is about 2mm too tall and about the same amount too narrow.  Obviously pinching it makes it fit but there's too little surface contact between it and the fuselage that I can't get a good weld that holds the correct shape.  I've tried a backing plate and interior bracing to make it stay but no joy.  

I figure that packing it full of putty should let me shape it in a more predictable way than trying to squeeze it with heat.

it's probably an easy fix once I get to it

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:21 PM

Pics would be nice...

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Posted by Texgunner on Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:17 PM

Dre

LOL, I've got two of the 1/32 Flankers sitting behind me right now in various states of unfinished...

The nose cone fit on the B has had me stymied for months as I just can't think up a fix for it- either I reshape the cone with heat (scary thought) or I pack it full of milliput and start grinding and sanding it down to match the fuselage contours.  Otherwise, that bird is ready for painting.   The C got sidetracked by some other GB entries (Frogfoot and MiG-21).   I've got several Linden Hill and Begemot decal packages for each if I ever get back to them.

If you haven't tried one, look into Trumpeter's 1/32 Su-25UB as it's a fantastic kit with excellent details all the around and there's a kick-ass resin cockpit set for it as well as PE.  I've spent as much time on painting the Frogfoot's cockpit as I have spent on the entire MiG-21 project.

This is my main contest entry and has been getting all my love for a couple of months now... two weeks to finish it.

Man, that cockpit looks great Dre!  It looks like ya climb right in and buckle down.  Wow.Bow Down

Gary


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 22, 2012 5:48 AM

Hi Dre is that a resin cockpit for the SU25? It looks simply brilliant! I am hoping to be able to get as precise at that with detail, but I usually scratchbuild the extra detail, normally because I can't afford the resin extras lol, but I am thinking of getting a cockpit set for the 1/32 Tornado ECR and making it a 1991 GR1 all dirtied up from the war. Also the Frogfoot is on my list of kits to buy. So you say its good? Also what exactly is the issue with the nose on your flanker? I remember the nose on mine didnt fit great so I got a plastic card and rolled it to a cylinder shape and inserted it into the nose and fuselage then left an approx 1cm gap and put a TON of filler and let it dry for days and then sanded it to shape, the whole process took days if I remember but it worked.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, October 22, 2012 11:26 AM

Dean27, I used the resin because I can't replicate that level of detail by scratchbuilding... there's switches on the panels and all sorts of superfine stuff.   It's the best resin set I've seen.

If you scroll up a few posts you'll find where I explained the nose problem, but reading your fix gives hope that something works.   I'll look at it later tonight and see what's what...

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 22, 2012 11:46 AM

Ah yes well also remember to use oodles of glue when you get the nose at the correct angle and wait for it to dry before applying any filler. I also waited for the filler to dry, sanded then as the filler appears porous I put more superglue on it once I was happy with the shape then sanded the superglue after  a day then I had a super smooth and strong finish. Alternatively Zacto models do a replacement nose that apparently drops right in with no fuss.

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:00 AM

A lot of good work here that makes my stuff seem fairly elementary....

I've made a little progress. Took a lot of time over the evening yesterday to fill some gaps and seems. I'm going to be modeling this MiG-21 with the gear up.

I closed the nose gear doors. The kit supposedly allows for such a configuration but there were lots of gaps so I had to fill some holes. I cut a piece of playing card out and placed it inside the well to give a foundation for the kit doors to sit. Then I filled the seems and sanded it flush. Looks pretty good to me.

As for the main gear doors, there will be some work to do to make them look right. You can see they don't fit as well as I'd like.

EDIT: Figured it out, gotta insert the Direct Link into the Insert Image tool...nice. Way to make things more complicated....

Jon

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:50 AM

Pics instead of hot-links would be nice...

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:58 AM

Yeah, I can't figure that part out at the moment. Does the new format of the forum change how pics are posted? I've been copy/pasting the IMG code straight from Photobucket like I used to without an issue before, but now its posting links. I'll have to keep playing around with it unless some one has some insight.

Jon

My Blog: The Combat Workshop 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:46 PM

Oddmanrush, that kit looks like a seam-machine...  how long until you break off those 3 IFF antennae on the nose?   Mine lasted a while, but I wound up shaving them off and drilling pilot holes so I could use thin stock rod to recreate them as the last step.

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