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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:01 AM

Don't be nervous, be awesome.   Maybe shoot some practice pieces before attacking that MiG?

I'm curious to see how the Grach turns out myself...  I've thinned these enamels with lacquer thinner to see if they adhere to the plastic a little better and so far it has worked wonderfully.   The paints are drying out much faster than with the regular enamel thinner and the finish seems to be harder and more durable.

All I need now is to sit down and make some masks and begin painting that upper surface...

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:04 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:07 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:11 PM

In the background is the 1/48 Academy Su-35/37 Super Flanker, it's a guy who has been making models for the shop since I was a boy, he used the SOL conversion set, its a superb looking model.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:13 PM

Now that's how a Flanker should look!   Fantastic work... those Sorbitsa pods really do look better than the tip launch rails.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:17 PM

Thanks Dre, ever since I saw the SU-30MKK on TV at the Farnborough airshow in 1997 I think it stood out to me as the best looking aircraft I had ever seen and even still, so I am going to save for the 1/32 Trumpeter kit.

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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:17 PM

Once I get my hands on one, I'll look and see if the resin cockpit set for the Su-27UB fits the Su-30MKK kit... just so we know as those kits' cockpits are rather weak and there's a lot to look at.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 3:20 PM

Im sure the cockpits would be very different though.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 3:52 PM

We'll see.   I have both kits but haven't looked at them side-by-side.  If the resin fits and isn't too different from stock, well then happy me.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 4:30 PM

Well I know the MK is a command and control aircraft so it will have a different back seat as it has to be able to fight but the SQN commander has to be able to direct the SU-27's from it.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:33 PM

I did not know that...  

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:41 PM

Thought you might wanna see this Dre.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, December 7, 2012 8:56 AM

Cool, I'll watch that later tonight...

and speaking of Frogfoot's..

a base of Dark Tan/Gloss Gull Grey over the preshading, looks kinda interesting

Followed by a light Sand spraying and then a light Sand/Gloss White post-shading...  a lot less interesting.   True to form, I managed to obliterate 90% of the shading and leave hints of the underlying colors...  it looks gooder in person.

I've still got to make some large masks for the green cloud camo and then redo the green panels...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 7, 2012 12:47 PM

After watching that video I really want that Frogfoot.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, December 7, 2012 1:18 PM

Get the two-seater, it's a great kit (although I imagine that the singler-seater is just as nice).

There's some good resin bits and quite a lot of Eduard PE if so inclined and even some decals are out there for foreign operators.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 7, 2012 4:58 PM

Probably would just stick with Russian AF, good account of an American pilot who flew the Frogfoot, I never would have guessed it went supersonic.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, December 7, 2012 6:15 PM

According to the internet, it doesn't.   Wiki lists the Su-25TM as "950 km/h 590 mph, Mach 0.77" and the other sources I quickly checked indicate 950km/590mph as well, although one did list the Su-25A at 975km/606mph....the Su-24 Fencer does exceed Mach (and looks like a MiG-23 doing so), perhaps the pilot was misremembering?

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:17 PM

More like deliberate inaccurate info to the publishers, I remember in the navy seeing what magazines published in terms of stats on warships, they were usually wrong, the military rarely gives out accurate information about their equipment, on purpose obviously.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, December 9, 2012 10:32 AM

Back in the day, I'd agree with you however several points work against that being the case IMO..  there's today's internet world of shared, accessed information, that the Su-25 has been operated by many countries and pilots with greasy palms, and that it is not a new, secret aircraft but an older one that has seen it's share of  demo time lead me to believe that it tops out around 600mph.  

But if it can exceed the speed o' sound, then that does make the Grach all the more impressive for its role.   It's one of those airplanes that has really made me reappraise what I thought I knew about Soviet military aviation.

Did I mention how nice the two-seat kit is??  

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Posted by Porkbits on Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:51 PM

Hey, guys:

Sorry to butt in, but figure this is the right place to ask a question about the Su-25k. :-)

In any event, I'm about to start the Eduard re-pop and picked the colorful Slovak bird stationed at Trencin in 1993.

Would the cockpit be the typical bright blue, or light gray used in later versions?

Thanks so much!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:48 PM

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Posted by Porkbits on Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:58 PM

Thanks, Dean!

Maybe I will join you guys, if you'll have me? :-) Just be warned that it might take me six months to finish this build (no joke--I'm sloooow and have two toddlers at home).

So...from the pics, this doesn't look like the crazy bright emerald green/bluish/whatever you see in, say, MiG-21s, correct? Anyone sell something close to this light blue shade...maybe Model Master or AKAN?

PB

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:33 PM

Yes you're in mate, well the finish date has been pushed back to April 1st so there's about four and a half months for you to build it, but believe me everyone on this GB is making slow progress at the moment with Christmas and everything that that brings, namely no time for anything including modelling, me included. I am trying to keep this thread alive with what posts I can but I have no pictures of progress myself, this GB is not so strict anymore as I cannot very well expect people to keep posting and building when I have no time myself, just do what you can and hopefully in the new year we will all start to get some action on the thread once again when we have the time, but you're definitely in.

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Posted by Porkbits on Sunday, December 9, 2012 6:42 PM

Awesome! Thank you. Then consider me joined. :-) I *should* be able to make the 4/1 deadline. My last build (Su-17) took months because of home construction and other stuff getting in the way, so I should have more time this build. I think.

Well, as soon as I figure out which color to paint the Su-25 cockpit.....I have AKAN's underside gray-blue for the, well, underside, but not sure that would work for the cockpit, too.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, December 10, 2012 2:08 AM

Speaking of Frogfoots...  here's some teaser shots now that camo is finished and the masks removed.

I've only left the port side engine and avionics bay open, but the other side is as equally detailed.  A few things to clean up here and then maybe some decals.

I'm not going to reveal the finished camo until it's all done, but trust me when I say..   it's unique.Stick out tongue

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 10, 2012 7:16 AM

Nice that Frogfoot looks awesome, and looks like a great kit, did you use any filler at all during the build Dre? Also I know I saw another model I really want but need like a hole in the head which is Trumpeters 1/200 Bismarck I know its not part of this subject but man you gotta see this kit, it's 126cm long! Also comes with a £180 price tag so It's on the list after the Frogfoot.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, December 10, 2012 7:36 AM

Wow Dre, those avionics and engines look just great!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, December 10, 2012 8:46 AM

Dre

Speaking of Frogfoots...  here's some teaser shots now that camo is finished and the masks removed.

I've only left the port side engine and avionics bay open, but the other side is as equally detailed.  A few things to clean up here and then maybe some decals.

I'm not going to reveal the finished camo until it's all done, but trust me when I say..   it's unique.Stick out tongue

WOW! Nice details in those open panels Dre! Seeing stuff like that makes me want to pick up a 1/32 kit... So, unique camo?! Are we talking "Kermit-the-Frogfoot" unique??

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Zero Enna on Monday, December 10, 2012 11:03 AM

I'd like to build one of these:

In 1/72 using Italeri's kit and major modifications and a PE set from Eduard... As long as I get rid of college homework -.-

"Vivir venciendo o morir matando"
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 10, 2012 3:40 PM

That's fine you can join us Zero Enna you have until 1st April to build it, keep us posted, like I have said too others joining it's not so strict on this GB so it's up to you to get done what you can mate as being Christmas time were all a bit more busy than usual.

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