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Nice picture, you know again I notice the panel lines are not visible on the real aircraft from this distance. I remember the Sea Harriers on HMS Illustrious they were dirty around the aft fuselage but not around the front, Even at that they panel lines were not visible, or on the Embarked RAF Harriers. Or any aircraft from a distance with the odd exception. I say this as I have ruined a million models over some years frying to get the panel lines right, and I still sort of wing it even now as I have not got one technique that works every time, I must be doing something wrong!
I agree that real life Aircraft don't usually show the weathering that we like to give our models, but a model without some panel washing just looks unfinished... solid black is too strong, but a medium grey is just right for panels IMO. Payne's Grey seems to me to be the best match for the grime I see on operational aircraft.
I don't know if one can over-weather a Russian airplane...
texgunner, thats amazing, keep it up! i will have to defiantly try it out. if we where doing german planes i would do the 262 from red tails. haha
Yeah, Dre and Dean, I constantly go back-and-forth re: panel line debate. Since we're building in scale, anything that makes a model look less toy-like helps, but I've also seen panel line washes WAY overdone. I think it depends on the subject.
In any case, it's truth that you can never overdo a Russian plane. :-)
I guess you guys are right, but I have to say I think it's the Sudanese Flankers are matt green/brown camo and its nearly impossible to see the panel lines, having said that I agree it adds realism, even though it may not always be realistic which is an odd concept. At any rate I think I will use artists oils over a really good gloss finish and see what becomes of It. I know the acrylic/oil routine but does anybody know, is Tamiya clear a gloss varnish?
For the Sudanese Flankers, to use your example, I'd guess that they have more sun-effect weathering and fading than they would accumulated grime in the panels just because I can't imagine them actually getting much flight time compared to other foreign operators with better operations budgets.
I don't know about the Tamiya finishing sprays, but I imagine that they have a gloss and a dull like Testor's does.
I agree, Dean; with some a/c you just can't see the lines. Sudanese Flankers sound like a good example of that. :-)
Russian jet builders beware... I'll be digging into an F-14D sometime very soon. Time for a change on my bench.
Nice! From big Russian to big American. :-) I need to build one of those.
Which kit?
Trumpeter.. couldn't find the Tamiya kit and it is just a bit too pricey for my tastes. I also figure I'm good with Trumpeter's kits so why change up now? I've got a truck-load of AM for it coming to my door today...
But yes, I need a change of nationality for a while (and since I planned on building American this year, I had better get to it).
Lol, If I had not just finished a 7 month build I'd probably join you but, I'm going for a 1/48th Chinese fighter next, the big cat can wait, I have had it a few years so a while longe wont hurt. I cant wait to see your build, I think the F-14 is one of the only western fighters besides the F-18 that's frequently dirty and grimy, could rival the Russians for dirt with it?
yeah, the F-15 doesn't usually look too grubby for some reason... the ghost grey scheme appeals to me.
Hey, guys:
Noticed that Squadron here in the States is having an online clearance sale, including the Eduard Ltd Edition MiG-29UB for US $42 and the Revell Mig-29UB for $36. No way to know how many in stock, but there you go.
Hope everyone is doing well!
PB
Life's good, I'm working on a F-14D after all these Russian jets....
Thanks Porkbits for the heads up!!
Me being the kind of person who is not into modern jets, the Mig 29 is the only modern jet I like, and being Polish I had to get the Eduard kit..
Also Sprue brothers has the Great Wall Hobby Mig 29 on sale as well!! $56.99 on a kit normaly $80
Scale Plastic Aircraft Modeler
Yer welcome! :-) And that's also a great deal at Sprue Bros.
Hope everyone is well. I'm just biding my time until the Kitty Hawk MiG-25 hits the shelves in a couple of weeks. Can't wait. If life doesn't get in the way, will be my fall/winter project. Will post updates here.
Hope to see it, PB.
So whats the rules of this build, forgive me its been awhile since I have been on and things have changed
Dean30 is/was our GB leader, but the gist of this GB is simple- it has to be a Russian-built jet fighter that has a western reporting name that starts with "F"- Flanker, Fishbed, Flogger... etc.
No deadline, I have a "Fulcrum" that will need building but not building as fast as I used to.
That's good, as there's no end-date for this GB that I can think of.
...need to get my Su22 out of the "parking lot" and back on the bench...
On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister
Oh no, I feel the need, the need.... to go buy that 1/48 Eduard MiG-21 weekend kit.
John
On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38
1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier
Lol! Do it, John (and Vance!)
Well, lets see, i get a discount at the hobby store I work at part time, the dog won't tell anyone, there's model boxes stacked all around the work bench, who'd notice another! oh yea! I need to save some $
P.S. I do have a to buy stash at the store
falconmod Oh no, I feel the need, the need.... to go buy that 1/48 Eduard MiG-21 weekend kit. John
....well?!???!? We've already established that the dog won't talk, so ....
I went ahead and got three kits last night at the hobby store, cuz we are having a summer sale and my boss said I could take my pick before the sale started and take the stuff home and pay for it as I can!
got my third Fw190 kit a Dragon master kit
Hasegawa Saab draken
Hobby boss TBM-3 Avenger
all in 1/48
So I'll have to get the MiG next time.
everyone was asleep when I got home, so now I just hide behind the model boxes, I do get more work done that way.
Should be getting my Eduard Mig-29ub today from Squadron, and the GWH Mig-29A from sprue brothers...
Nice! The GWH Mig is apparently a great kit with really detailed molding.
Hi guys, looking forward to seeing these new kits, the GWH Mig-29 and the Mig 25 Porkbits said he will get, I think when I get back from Latvia next month I will possibly, HA possibly! I will be getting the Kitty Hawk Mig 25 as well. But I have started the Mirage 2000 and have to get some parts from Amazon for it before I can continue namely a cafetiere mesh filter. Anyway great to see this GB is still here and at the top! Might do another for this yet. Cant wait to see the Migs guys!
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