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The infamous 1/48 Chrome Tamiya P-51D build in progress...

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:02 AM

Lawdog this is amazing. Thanks for the link. =]  This will be a huge help.

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, July 29, 2013 10:49 PM

Hans von Hammer

Wish you hadn't deleted all the other pics.. It kinda shoots down the reference-value of the thread quite a bit..

If it's a file-size issue on your photo-hosting site, upload them as jpegs... 

This has been fixed....

Joe

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, November 23, 2012 4:56 AM

Thanks for the kind words guys.  Hans, I've been modeling seriously for about 10 years but I'm relatively new to this forum.  Reference contests, I agreed with you guys and have overheard such discussions amongst judges.  "hey..I saw that one at (blah blah) show and it won first place there...so theres no need to look at any of the others (or something to this effect)". .....lol....classic!  Thats why I try to stay light-hearted about the subject.  

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:55 AM

Outstanding..

Regarding judges, it's my opinion that chapter members should be DQ'd from entering anything in the open contest.. If they want to compete, they should have a "Chapter Members" category where all the sponsoring chapter members compete against each other's builds alone...  Back when I was a local IPMS member, I never entered anything when we were sponsoring a contest.. I only "showed"...  

Heh, I initially got pulled into judging at contest simply because there weren't enough guys to do it at one show I attended back in the 80s... So I got told to volunteer to be a judge...  Naturally, I took Dioramas..  I really got my eyes opened as to what actually goes on "behind closed doors"...  

But that's another thread..

Lawdog, you did really well, and if I'm not mistaken, you're either kinda new at this, or are recently returned to the hobby?  If that's correct, then taking third is an even greater achievement than you realized..

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:01 AM

professordeath

I don't think you're far off the mark with the "conspiracy" stuff. I know at the yearly show we have in these parts all the judges are from the club and am convinced there is some stuff going on.

Thanks for the compliment Jimmy.  Reference the conspiracy, our yearly show is ran by the local IPMS Chapter too.  I was trying to be nice...lol.  It was interesting to see how there was a litle flap on the bottom of the registration sheet that could lifted up to see who the modeler was....hummmmm.  Nah, for me, its was all about having fun and seeing where my skills match up to other modellers.  The prize was an unexpected surprise.   

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:59 PM

Hello folks.  Since some were curious an wished me luck, I wanted to mention that Missouri Armada came in third place in the 1/48 scale single engine inline engine catergory at the Cleveland Model Show.  Aside from my conspiracy theories regarding model contests (kidding), 1/48 scale single prop was by far the most popluar category and there was alot of competition and excellent work there.....so i'm extremely pleased.  Who would have thought the dreaded chromed (or de-chromed) Mustang would end up being contest worthy.  Thanks to everyone who followed this thread. 

Joe

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:48 PM

Wabashwheels

Good luck this weekend.  Let us know how it came out.  Beautiful work.   Rick.

Thanks Rick!   I'm gonna need it.  I'm considering entering my Saburo Sakai Zero and Jim Swett's Wildcat from the recent Grumman Group Build too.  Unfortunately, its the model club members that thrown on the shin-dig that usually run off with all the awards......but we'll see if I can throw a monkey wrench in there.....LOL.

Joe

 

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Posted by 7474 on Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:20 PM

Wow, looks great. Any aircraft with a bubble top looks better in the OD and Gray scheme, while the framed canopy versions are better in bare metal.

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Posted by Wabashwheels on Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:17 PM

Good luck this weekend.  Let us know how it came out.  Beautiful work.   Rick.

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:35 PM

Well done.. And double-thanks for re-posting the WIP photos..

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, October 29, 2012 1:17 PM

Thanks for the replacement photos, it was especially great to see the cockpit before the fuselage was sealed up.  Really great work on making the details pop!

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Posted by stoutfella on Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:54 PM

Gorgeous!

Cheers,

Stoutfella

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On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by spiralcity on Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:17 AM

She turned out great, nice work.

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, October 26, 2012 4:19 PM

Thanks for the compliments...Smile

Joe

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, October 26, 2012 2:45 PM

Great looking build lawdog.

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, October 26, 2012 12:08 PM

Hans von Hammer

Wish you hadn't deleted all the other pics.. It kinda shoots down the reference-value of the thread quite a bit..

If it's a file-size issue on your photo-hosting site, upload them as jpegs... 

 
Or if you changed the name of the photo or the album, that could have broken the links, too.
 
I'd love to see those photos, too, but I am very impressed with your finished photos.  I think it's contest-worthy, well done!

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Posted by Buckeye on Friday, October 26, 2012 11:29 AM

That is one gorgeous build! Bow Down

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 26, 2012 11:16 AM

Wish you hadn't deleted all the other pics.. It kinda shoots down the reference-value of the thread quite a bit..

If it's a file-size issue on your photo-hosting site, upload them as jpegs... 

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Posted by cml on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:18 AM

That is one fine looking build!!!!

How did you mask/paint the spinner? It looks unreal!

Chris

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, October 26, 2012 1:56 AM

The novelty chrome plated mustang is finally finished and out of my stash.  Its in the markings of Missouri Armada, John England's mount from around autumn of 1944.  England was credited with 17.5 enemy aircraft destroyed in the air.  He was apparently modest too, since he credited most of the kills to the new K-14 gunsight, not his marksmanship. 

As always, I find these Tamiya P-51s to be enjoyable stress free builds.  Its definitely in my top five kits, right up there with the 1/48 Tamiya Jug and Hasegawa Bf 109 series.  As I said earlier, there is room for improvement.  In addition to the True Detail seat, I added Ultracast "block" tread wheels which I think add a little more interest and weather up nicely.  I also added a Squadron canopy (sliding part).  Scratchbuilding consisted of the already mentioned brass micro tubing machine gun replacement,  solder on the gear legs for brake lines, and drop tank plumbing.  I plan to enter it in the Cleveland model show on November 4th to see if it will place.  Its been several years since I've participated in a contest so wish me luck (I've tried to allieviate the mistakes that the pen light police look for....but we'll see).  Thanks for following this thread and here are some pics of the finished product.  Comments always welcome.

Joe

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, October 19, 2012 10:16 PM

Me like lawdog, your "streak technique" is always impressive, great job!

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, October 19, 2012 9:30 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys. Reference the spinner and checkers, I checked to make sure the yellow paint matched the decal.  If there would have been a noticeable difference, I would have altered the paint to match accordingly. Reference painting the stripe, I've tried the thin Tamiya tape approach with a previous build, I just couldn't get it concentric and it kept coming out lopsided.  Professor, I am however intrigued by the circle template idea.  Perhaps I could use it as a guide to cut Tamiya tape. 

I sprayed the upper surface with Tamiya XF-81 (RAF Dark Green).  I thought it looked great right from the bottle.  It was then cut with Tamiya Buff and thinned for the streak technique I used on the lower surface.  I also lighted the rudder as well to match some pics I've seen of painted wartime '51's.  A different type of metal used?  Fabric covered?  Got me....but it looks good and adds interest.  After being sprayed with Alclad II gloss coat, I let it cure for a day to await decals. 

I had a marathon decaling session last night.  They're a mixture of Eagle Cal for the Armada and Aeromaster which both went on problem free with the use of Micro Sol.  I used the kit shrouded exhausts which I drilled out, painted, then added at this stage.  A word on my exhaust technique, it consists of painting them black to shadow the crevices.  I then go over it with Tamiya red brown to simulate rust.  Its then dry brushed with Testor's chrome silver (enamel) and followed up with the Detailer wash.  It seems like a lot of work but in reality it only takes a few minutes and adds so much more dimension to the finished look.  I have since moved on to the fiddly bits, such as landing gears and drop tanks.  It shouldn't be too long now. 

Joe

 

 

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:53 AM

Looks great Joe, painting those checkers is no easy task but BOY does it make a difference over decal!

Additionally, how do you think using a dacal for prop spinner is going to match up with the painted checker?

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Posted by Jim Barton on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:08 PM

Cool model!

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:50 AM

And now, having read the whole thread, may I say, great progress!  I really like how you did the markings.  I look forward to your progess.

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:45 AM

lawdog114

... I've heard of people using anything from oven cleaner to bleach.  I've also heard of less caustic options, such as cleaner/degreaser(s) like Super Clean and 409 like applications.  I decided to go with an all purpose cleaner/degreaser called "Simple Green", which I got at Wal-Mart for $6.00.  I figured it would work too.  I put the sprues into an old cat litter container (clean of course) to soak for a few days.  Stay tuned for an update on whether this was successful.     

I'm just getting caught up on your thread, and I'm enjoying it.  But I had to offer my mustard, as the Germans say, that is to say, my two cents.  I switched to using Super Clean, after a buddy at Agape Models did this very same build and used SC to strip the chrome.  I had been using oven cleaner before then, but I bot a jug of SC and tried it on the chromed frets in the Monogram Red Baron hot rod kit.  Took the chrome off in 2 minutes flat.  It does take a little longer to remove paint, and I'll let pieces soak for 10 to 20 minutes while I work on something else.  But then everything comes off, very easily, using an old toothbrush and toothpicks to scrub off the softened/dissolved paint.

I also like it, because you can fill a jar or jars of various sizes and shapes to use as baths for parts, and use the same batch of SC over and over again.  That was a big plus for me, over oven cleaner, which is basically once-and-done.  SC is also far less caustic, and though I do wear household cleaning gloves when working with it, I have also picked up parts out of the bath, with my bare hands, and had no ill effects.  I do work in a sink with water running, though.

I don't know about Super Green from my own use, but I have read enough build blogs of guys who describe it working pretty much like Super Clean, too, though, your mileage may vary.  But I use SC now to strip paint and chrome from model parts, from metal figures, and I also keep a small jar on the bench, along with mineral spirits, lacquer thinner, water and isopropyl, for cleaning brushes, and I also use it to clean my airbrush, depending on the paint I've sprayed.

Best regards,

Brad

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:51 AM

Hello folks.  I figured I would drop in for an update.  I did decide on John England's "Missouri Armada" of the 357th FG.  I have three reasons. The first, I've never built a P-51 that wasn't a natural metal finish. I know, this is usually the opposite with modelers who tend to shy away from NMF.  Believe it or not, I actually enjoy them, especially after discovering Alclad II.  The second reason? I happen to be a huge fan of the 357th FG, having built Chuck Yeager's and Bud Anderson's birds in the past.  The third, well... I already have Eagle Cal's sheet with England's bird on it. 

Whenever possible, I paint ID markings, such as nose checkers or ID/invasion stripes.  I've done this on previous 357th planes (one on commission) and was pleased on how it turned out.  It just looks more realistic to me and the area is that much easier to weather later by means of a panel line wash.  On the Armada, I started by painting the nose and prop hub in Tamiya flat red. I then used the Eagle Cal checker nose strip as reference and cut out squares in Tamiya tape afixed to an old mirror.  After a bit of fiddlling to get them shaped right, they were placed down according to the reference profile supplied by Eagle Cal.  Its not perfect, but I suppose there weren't perfect on the real aircraft either.  I then sprayed Tamiya flat yellow.  I will reluctantly use a yellow spinner decal I have from another Eagle Strike sheet.  I'm man enough to admit I'm just not savvy in taping off the 357th FG prop stripe.  I've tried in the past and failed, always coming out looking ridiculous.  Any suggestions here folks? 

After taping off the nose checkers, I then tackled the lower fuselage invasion stripes by painting the general area Tamiya flat white then taping off the white stripes by using the kit decal as a width reference, which came out to roughly 3/8th of an inch in width.  The "open" stripes were then sprayed Tamiya flat black.  Once the stripes were complete, I remove all inner tape,but left the outer tape in place to outline where the stripes start and end.  The area was then taped to be removed later after the paint scheme is completed. 

My research indicates that 357th birds were painted in RAF colors, since these were apparently readily available.  Its also been argued that some were done in Olive Drab and Neutral Grey.  The first sounds more logical to me since they were reportedly painted in Yoxford.  I've seem pictures of Armada and the green does seem to be quite dark.  I decided on Tamiya's version of RAF Dark Green (XF83) over Medium Sea Grey (XF81) which I previously bought for a Spitfire Mk IX.  I'm told these are new to the market, released on the heels of their 1/32nd scale Spitfire.  Hopefully Tamiya keeps this trend going....some new Luftwaffe subjects?.......one could only wish.    

I sealed the gear bays with the kit parts (convenient) and then sprayed the lower surface with the Medium Sea Grey.  Tamiya paint is like silk when cut with their lacquer thinner.  I will never revert back to 91% Iso for my main paint schemes.  On small stuff, its still economically feasible to use Alcohol though.  That thinner is expensive.  This was then lightened with white, thinned and streaked.  Once done, I dirtied it up with a diluted mix of Tamiya red brown and NATO black.  I keep this concoction premixed in a glass bottle since I use it a lot.   Here's some pics of the completed lower surface.  I hope to get to the RAF green upper in the next few days. 

Joe 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:47 PM

Thanks Fermis, I always wondered what that was for.  Hopefully not a post war phenomenon. 

It took me all of ten minutes to get to this point.  I'm exaggerating of course, but it was under an hour and this kit is certainly the "therapy" I needed.  I didn't even have any trouble with the lower intake area which I have in the past.  I did discover on the waste gate area (albeit to late for the interior) that the Vallejo wash comes off with 91% iso alcohol on a Q-tip.  Oh well...I'll still stick with The Detailer.  Time to decide a scheme.  Its a toss up between John England's 357th FG bird Missouri Armada or Urban Drew's 361st FG Detroit Miss. I will likely built th Armada since I already have the decals. 

Joe

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:05 AM

Pit looks great!

lawdog114

  To add some interest to what I considered a boring IP, I added that yellow line that runs between the gauges seen on some P-51s.  I have no idea what it was there for (anyone know?),  

It's there to seperate the "six pack"...(the main flying instruments...1. airspeed indicator 2. directional gyro (compass) 3. artificial horizon 4. altimeter 5. turn coordinator 6. vertical speed indicator)

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