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Posted by T3chDad® on Friday, April 4, 2014 6:43 AM

Wow!....keeps getting better.


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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, April 4, 2014 1:31 AM

Alrighty, here's where the rubber is meeting the road.  I mentioned several pages back that my intention was to take little bits of weathering from several different pics of Mud Hens and use them together on this build.  The result would be a plane that will have a fictional (and perhaps unrealistic) weathered look to it.

Generally speaking, these planes do tend to be relatively clean.  Only occasionally are they filthy...but every now and then they are.  I've taken a bit of artistic liberty in my weathering because, frankly, I enjoy doing it and I really like other people's builds that have convincing weathering.  Also, I find clean to be fairly boring.  As a result I'm at a point where the weathering on this build is a little more Navy like than Air Force.

So, here's where I'm at now.  There are about 4 layers of additional weathering in these pics.  I tried to keep it realistic in the sense that the dirty areas are places that normally get dirty...I just amplified them a bit.  Tell me what you think:

In the pic above you can see that I've used a silver Prismacolor pencil to draw the scratch marks on the in flight refueling door. I did this in the gun muzzle, too, but you can't see it in any of these pics.

The pic above shows how shiny the Alclad II high shine paint is.  I'm very happy with how it turned out.

One area that does seem to be commonly dirty is the area around and aft of the landing gear.  I really made an effort to make this convincing.  And you can see that I've attached the SNIPER XR pod.

I'm sure you've noticed that I have attached the gear and the Royal Resin wheels.  I needed to sand them down a bit because apparently I didn't do a very great job cutting them out of their casting blocks.  Also, the left wing sat about 2mm higher than the right wing.  I was scratching my head over this one considering the wings are molded with the upper fuselage partHuh?.  So I sanded the left wheel down a bit more.

I've attached the 600 gallon tanks and the GBU-31 to the pylons.  Sorry for the blurry pic above.

You can't really see it in the pics but I re masked the windshield and touched up the ragged frame.

Also, I forgot to post pics of the finished fuel tanks (back when I finished them) but several pics of Mud Hens show them carrying tanks that are painted Light Ghost Grey so I used those instead of the more common Gunship Grey tanks.

Personally, I'm pretty happy with the overall results in the above pics.  But like I said earlier...tell me your opinions.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, April 4, 2014 1:03 AM

Dean & T3ch, thank you very much!

bvallot

Maybe you've mentioned this previously somewhere that I've overlooked, but what kind of thinner have you used with your oil paints?

I didn't mention it.  I used Mona Lisa Odorless turpenoid.  Although, I have used this technique with a few other odorless turpenoid brands so I'm not sure it really matters.  Mona Lisa is just what I happen to have now.

dflu78

Absolutely beautiful work. This kit is a real hidden gem considering you can get it for cheap at Hobby Lobby or Michael's. I built it last year and I'll be building it again now that I've gotten over my fear of Alclad. You're work on the rear is superb. As far as those things that go bang bang....wow...some of the best I've seen.

dflu78, thanks alot!  Yeah, this is a great kit considering that you can routinely get it for $20-$25 on ebay, too.  In fact, I got this very kit off of ebay for $19.

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Posted by dflu78 on Friday, April 4, 2014 12:01 AM

Absolutely beautiful work. This kit is a real hidden gem considering you can get it for cheap at Hobby Lobby or Michael's. I built it last year and I'll be building it again now that I've gotten over my fear of Alclad. You're work on the rear is superb. As far as those things that go bang bang....wow...some of the best I've seen.

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:02 PM

Maybe you've mentioned this previously somewhere that I've overlooked, but what kind of thinner have you used with your oil paints?

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Posted by Dean30 on Thursday, April 3, 2014 6:16 PM

That's getting better and better! It's inspiring me to build my Tornado a bit faster lol.

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Posted by T3chDad® on Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:00 AM

The bombs look outstanding!....like the rest of your project!  


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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:37 AM

Wirraway, thank you!

Ok, I've applied a flat coat.  I airbrushed a 50/50 mixture of Liquitex Matte and Semi Matte.  It ended up being very matte, though.  Not really what I wanted but I think it will be ok since I'm going to apply some oil filters and a flat surface is better for that.

You can see that the Alclad II high shine paint on the metal areas has held up very well even after being masked.

And here's a "hold your breath" moment...removing the mask from the clear parts:

There was a little bit of a ragged edge on the windshield but nothing I can't fix.  I've also added the coaming part that separates the front cockpit from the rear.

Here's how the canopy turned out:

   

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Posted by Wirraway on Thursday, April 3, 2014 2:52 AM

This has been a great thread to follow/.  Your skills are very obvious.  Thanks again

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:12 AM

Dre & Eagle, as always I appreciate the kind comments!

bvallot

Fly-n-hi this is a great WIP.  I've been following it for a while now.  I've definitely concluded that I'll just have to throw a jet in the build list every so often.  Lots of useful tips here as well and plenty to think about.  I usually don't jump into a thread unless I have something useful to add or something to ask. This time it's something to ask. =]

What kind of filter did you use on the ordinance.  I'm thinking about trying one out on a dark green and dark earth camo scheme for the AVG P-40.  In the past, I've done all the subtle variations with an airbrush.  This time I wanted to try something different.  What color filter would you figure would work best on this scheme?  Maybe even just the green?

bvallot, thank you for the compliment!  The filter is just an oil paint that is a little bit darker green than the bombs.  I stippled a fairly thin mixture onto the bombs and just let it dry.  Pretty simple.  I could have used a lighter shade of green as well...its just a matter of your preference.

As far as the P-40 goes, I'm not sure what colors would be best.  It sort of depends on how much weathering you've applied with the airbrush I believe.  Obviously, you'll want to use some greens that are lighter and/or darker than the OD and some browns that are lighter and/or darker than the tan color for panel shading and variation.  You can also use a dirty color to spot filter the entire plane...or at least the areas of the plane that get the dirtiest such as the areas that get stepped on alot.

In any event I would probably use the AB to apply some pre/post shading and use some oil paint for filters.  Stay tuned to this thread because I'm planning on adding a few oil filters.  I've also been playing around with the Tamiya Weathering Master sets and they seem very promising.

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:30 PM

Fly-n-hi this is a great WIP.  I've been following it for a while now.  I've definitely concluded that I'll just have to throw a jet in the build list every so often.  Lots of useful tips here as well and plenty to think about.  I usually don't jump into a thread unless I have something useful to add or something to ask. This time it's something to ask. =]

What kind of filter did you use on the ordinance.  I'm thinking about trying one out on a dark green and dark earth camo scheme for the AVG P-40.  In the past, I've done all the subtle variations with an airbrush.  This time I wanted to try something different.  What color filter would you figure would work best on this scheme?  Maybe even just the green?

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:02 AM

I agree with Dre, it just keeps getting better!  Outstanding work!  Thanks again for taking the time to post these great pics!

Eagle90

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, March 31, 2014 3:54 PM

This just gets better and better!   Nice tip on weathering the ordnance, BTW.   That's definitely something I overlook, but not any more.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, March 31, 2014 2:22 PM

Ok, here's a very pic heavy update.  

I have advanced a few steps but I forgot (again) to take pics off all the steps...sorry.  What I have done is applied an oil wash to the panel lines, applied the decals, faded the decals with a very thin mix of faded Gunship Grey, added the antennas and GPS blister and added the anti sway braces.  

The weird shiny stuff on the metal part is liquid mask to keep the next flat coat off.

I should mention that the camera flash really brings out the graininess of the paint over the decals especially on the tail.  It looks way better to the naked eye.  

I should also mention that, although Afterburner's decals are excellent, their placement guide has many errors on it.  For example, the placement guide has you place the aft slime lights way too far forward.  I didn't catch this error until after I applied a sealer coat so its too late.  But I did catch a few of the other errors in time to move the decals to the correct locations.

The light grey round spot on the fuselage behind the gun vent is the GPS antenna.

Most of the oil wash ended up being wiped off of the model.  I might have too many layers of paint that may have filled the lines a bit too much.  At first this bugged me but now I think I like the random look of the dirty spots.

The decals went on very well.  There were only a few silvered areas and they were easy to deal with.

The gloss coat did drown out the paint fading a little but thats ok.  I'll be adding some more after this step anyway.

The thin layer of Gunship Grey on the decals was important because the decals looked like they were freshly painted on a weathered aircraft.  This step is needed to keep their color consistent with the rest of the plane.  Here's a shot of the horizontal stabs with the decals before the thin GG layer.  You can see how inconsistent it looked:

So after the gloss coat, oil wash and decal fading I think I'm up to 12 layers.  I don't know for sure now...I've lost count!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, March 28, 2014 8:09 PM

Dean30

Looks brilliant! I never heard of a sealer from Alclad either so I will be definitely getting some.

Thanks Dean!  This was the first time I've used the Alclad II Aqua Gloss and so far it has worked like a charm.  I'll let you guys know if I have any issues with it sown the road.

Nathan T

Very nice work. Bombs look right on, very realistic. Excellent metallizer work too.

Thanks Nathan!  I love Alclad II.  I painted up a couple of spare fuel tanks with all the Alclad II colors that I have to see what the differences in the shades are.  If I remember I'll post a pic of them.

RobGroot4

Ordnance is always tough when it comes to weathering because generally the weapons sit in a fairly sterile magazine until needed, away from the weather.  Then they tend to sometimes get messy handprints all over them during loading so the weathering is very light, or very dark in small patches.  I think you nailed the subtle effect perfectly.  I also love the seeker lenses on the GBUs, you'll have to tell us how you did it!

Groot

Rob, you're too kind!  I appreciate that very much.  The weathering on the bombs was actually very easy to do.  Using Abteilung 502 oil paint I just stippled on a darker shade of green onto the explosive part of the GBUs.

As for the seeker heads;  I just cut off the tips, placed a drop of clear drying glue to the end, let it dry (hanging nose down) and brushed some Tamiya Clear Yellow onto the lens.  It was a very simple process.

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Posted by RobGroot4 on Friday, March 28, 2014 7:29 PM

Ordnance is always tough when it comes to weathering because generally the weapons sit in a fairly sterile magazine until needed, away from the weather.  Then they tend to sometimes get messy handprints all over them during loading so the weathering is very light, or very dark in small patches.  I think you nailed the subtle effect perfectly.  I also love the seeker lenses on the GBUs, you'll have to tell us how you did it!

Groot

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, March 28, 2014 6:23 PM

Very nice work. Bombs look right on, very realistic. Excellent metallizer work too.

 

 

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Posted by Dean30 on Friday, March 28, 2014 5:53 PM

Looks brilliant! I never heard of a sealer from Alclad either so I will be definitely getting some.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, March 28, 2014 5:39 PM

Here's a good update.  I've masked off and painted the bare metal areas at the rear of the fuselage.  I painted the areas Alclad II Gloss Black then applied Stainless Steel.  It turned out great!  

I sealed that with Alclad II Aqua Gloss and then highlighted the panel lines with a very thinned out layer of Alclad II Jet Exhaust.  The Aqua Gloss did not diminish the high shine of the Stainless Steel at all!  I'm afraid I may have gone a little heavy on the panel line shading, though.  The camera's flash really hides it so its hard to see in these pics but with the naked eye its quite a bit darker:

I also laid down some thin strips of tape and tried to recreate the burnt skin around the (APU?) vent:

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, March 28, 2014 5:29 PM

T3ch & Dre, thanks!

I've added a filter to the bombs to make them look more weathered and used.  I think they turned out pretty good but I'm curious if you guys think it looks good.  Tell me what you think:

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, March 28, 2014 11:46 AM

I agree, those are great looking weapons.  What did you make the seeker heads out of?  

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Posted by T3chDad® on Friday, March 28, 2014 6:20 AM

Great looking weapons!


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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:13 PM

Thanks guys!

I've decaled and flat coated the weapons.  I've also added my own clear seeker heads for the GBUs and painted them clear yellow:

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Posted by patrick206 on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:29 PM

Is a frog waterproof???? HECK YAH, let's see it.

Patrick

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 5:18 PM

She's shaping up nicely. I also brush on the Future instead of air brushing it, works great.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:45 PM

Dean, Tojo and Bish,  thanks!

Ok, she's all glossed up and ready for decals!  I decided to use Future as a glosscoat for this build.  On my last build I used Liquitex Acryilc Gloss Varnish and it turned out great but I had a little bit lift with some masking tape.  Since I still have to mask the metal part of the exhaust I decided to use Future just to be safe.  I brushed it on with a large flat brush:

In the pic below you can see that I changed the chaff/flare configuration.  Having three red panels drew too much attention I thought.  Plus, many of the pics I saw had black panels mixed in with the grey and red panels:

Here's a good view of some of the painted detail on the vertical stabs:

I used "The Detailer" to wash the vents:

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:16 PM

Really nice work on this, looking great.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:05 PM

Really fantastic work,lots of attention to details pays off

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Posted by Dean30 on Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:07 AM

You're really taking your time with this and it shows, you're gonna have a great looking Eagle when done.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:54 PM

Hey guys,  I've got another update...

After the salt weathering I did another light post shade to bring back a little of the fading that was lost.  At this point I have 9 layers of paint on this thing!  In the pic below (which is out of focus...sorry) you can see a little of the detail on the nose.  I also went over the windshield seam to fill it in and repainted it so that it is more seamless now:

This pic (also out of focus) shows some of the detail painting.  I saw a pic of an F-15E with a lighter panel at the beginning of the engine humps so I added it to mine.  You can also see that the rudder on the left vertical stabilizer is painted a lighter color as if it is a replacement part:

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