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1/48 P-51 D FINISHED- (Improving the Tamiya kit tutorial)

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:23 PM

blkhwkmatt

Joe,

Great build and tutorial.  Really like the way that you approach assembling and detailing the cockpit.  One question, which model Dremel tool are you using.  I had one with a rechargable battery that stopped working years ago and am looking to replace it with a good one.  

 

Thanks Matt.  It's the cordless Dremel Model 7700.  I got it at Wal Mart for like 40 bones...works great!

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Thursday, February 19, 2015 4:56 PM

Joe,

Great build and tutorial.  Really like the way that you approach assembling and detailing the cockpit.  One question, which model Dremel tool are you using.  I had one with a rechargable battery that stopped working years ago and am looking to replace it with a good one.  

Glad that I found this build. Thanks again for sharing.

<Matt

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:45 PM

Thanks Mike.

Joe

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Posted by Buckeye on Monday, November 10, 2014 11:19 AM

That looks fantastic!  You are always able to get such a realistic finish to your models, just the right amount of weathering. Yes

Mike

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:06 PM

Thanks Max.  I'm very human and average modeler at best.  Its all about smoke and mirrors.  I've thought about an FSM article.  Maybe something small, but my work pales in comparison to those master modelers in there.  .

Joe.  

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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:52 PM

Excellent work on this one. Since you got impatient and had decal difficulties, I know that you are human and can make (tiny) mistakes! There's hope for me yet.

I really like what you've done to spruce the Tamiya bird up. Have you ever thought of contacting FSM to write a "How To" article for something like this? You could probably have an article a month for a year!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:45 PM

Thanks for the kind words all...

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by CN Spots on Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:02 PM

That turned out really nice Joe!

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:00 PM

Joe another beauty.  I missed this one entirely but ever so glad I found it now.

Marc  

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:23 AM

Another beauty Joe!  Your build inspired me to pull one of these out of the stash and give it a go.  

Steve

 

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:03 AM

Wow, another beauty Joe!  "Detroit Miss" never looked so good, just beautiful work friend. Your earlier posts and pics caused me to dig my own "Detroit Miss" out of the cabinet for a look at her.  Sheesh, I think I'd be embarrassed to show my Monogram version now!  Your plane kills Joe!  Thanks for the inspiration and great thread.Bow Down

Gary


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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:00 AM

Wow, another spectacular finish. Totally looks better than fantastic. SUPER DUPER !!

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Posted by Theuns on Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:00 AM

That is one good looking pony you got there ! Well done

Theuns

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Posted by patrick206 on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:57 PM

Joe -

Shazam, another high mark set. A real beaut, thanks for all the writing and photos.

Patrick

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:53 PM

Thanks guys.  Nathan, your probably right. This is the "leave well enough alone" build.  

Joe

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:33 PM

Nice work and great advice here Joe. Canopy looks right on to me. I wouldn't mess with it.

 

 

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Posted by RobGroot4 on Friday, November 7, 2014 8:18 PM

Just beautiful, nicely done!

Groot

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:53 PM

Thanks Trey. 

I got some much need time at the bench last night and I think I'm finally done.  To recap, its the 1/48 Tamiya P-51D in Urban Drew's 361st FG "Detroit Miss" markings.   Drew was a 6 kill ace, to include two Messerschmitt 262’s destroyed on October 7th, 1944. This distinguished Drew as the first Allied airman to destroy two German jets in aerial combat. 

As I said, my intent was to offer suggestions on how to improve the already nice Tamiya kit.  I've built several and have found some ways to improve it.  This is not to say I didn't go off the path in this one, so to speak. The cockpit, at minumum the seat, needs replaced.  I normally go True Details here but in this case I used a Ultracast seat with the TD pit.  I normally use Ultracast wheels but I had the Eduard Brassin set so I figured I would try it.  I found that I prefer the Ultracast.  The "fifties" need love too, which are crap on this kit.  I substituted Albion Alloy brass tubing.  Also worth mentioning is the kit canopy (sliding part) which is a poor two part design.  Its hard to mate these two convincingly which just looks sloppy to me.  I either go with a Squadron vacuform or substitute a spare Hasegawa piece.  I used the later since the Hase P-51 in my stash came with two (I suppose they all do).  I scratch built the internal brace with sheet styrene and drilled out the lightening holes.. 

I went with the kit 75 gallon drop tanks and added plumbing with stereo wire painted black.  I know there are pictures of "Miss" sportng the 108 paper tanks, but let's face it, the 75'ers are much less of a pain in the Bang Head to assemble with zero sanding.  Besides, whose to say these weren't used as well?  I read somewhere that 8th AF Mustangs did not have aerial wires, so I didn't add it.  If I'm to stand corrected, I'll add one 

I decided the previously mentioned insignia decal mishap was not bad enough to mess with, so I listened to the inner voice and just left well enough alone.  It ended up looking ok under the wash and dull coat.  I didn't like the way the  windscreen fit on this particular build.  This isn't the greatest design either and tends to leave gaps where it meets the fuselage.  I may fiddle with it more later. 

Overall I'm fairly happy with how it turned out.  Thanks for following.  Hopefully I've offered some new ideas for your next "Cadillac of the Skies"....    

Joe

          

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 10:08 PM

In a word WOW!

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:26 PM

Raymond G

Looks great Joe, and I'll be following this thread with note pad and pen in hand ;-)  

By the way, I did my Honor's Thesis over Native American Artifact collectors, and one of the things I looked at is what causes them to collect, or more accurately what creates the Affinity for collecting a particular group of items.  I'm seeing similar processes occurring with modelers.  Basically, it has to do with symbolism and what I dubbed "emotive symbolism," which breaks down into a couple of subgroups.  The key component with point hunters, that I'm seeing with modelers, is "nostalgic symbolism"  Usually, there is something about the past that draws the collector initially towards the hobby.  Then, as they begin to become proficient in the hobby, this symbolic interaction (not the theory for any other sociology nerds, but part of the theory nonetheless) creates strong emotional responses and ties to that which they are collecting.  

In my research, I found this to be the case in several collecting hobbies, from those who collect Pez dispensers to old celluloid films.  With out sitting down and talking to you I can't say for sure, but there is probably something('s) OR someone('s) that draws you towards the Mustang more than any other bird.  It might be something as simple as going to an air show with your dad and that's one each of you connected with, or even more simply a story about a certain pilot.  

Believe it or not, this concept is extremely powerful.  Some people refer to becoming addicted or hooked to this or that hobby, and are willing to break the law in order to participate in it.  There's a separate concept called Terror Management that ties into all this, which occurs at the end of one's collecting career.  If a long term collector has a good experience with ending the collection process and knows that their collection is going to a good place, they generally will end it in peace.  Conversely, if something bad happens at the end... say a fire, or their collection gets stolen, or they sell it off and they find out they got ripped off, then a deep depression can actually result.  I've actually seen cases of both.    

Probably way more than you wanted to know, but your mentioning of your proclivity towards the P-51 reminded me of how similar the to fields are in certain areas...  Raymond  

Raymond,  you should write an article about this for Fine Scale Modeler. That's a very interesting subject that you don't read about in our hobby. I would bet that it would get printed. Great stuff!

Gary Mason

Devil Dawg

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, November 5, 2014 9:13 AM

She  looks sooooo good. 

On the bench:

A lot !! And I mean A LOT!!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:47 PM

Thanks for the kind words.  I'm in for a quick update.  I had been waiting on the Aeromaster decals I bought off Ebay.  The oher day I got impatient and decided to utilize an old Eagle Cal sheet for the insignias and stenciling that's not plane specific.  This ended up being a mistake and the insignia on the upper wing had dried with wrinkles in it.....ugh!   I then tried every solvent I had to no avail.  I'll either live with it or sand-repaint-re decal it..........Bang Head.  The Aeromaster sheet showed up yesterday and I finished up. 

I gave it a Flory wash.  This is where these start to come to life for me...

I turned my attention to the gears and wheels.  I added fuse wire for brake lines.  Ialso used the new Eduard "Brassin" wheels for this project.  I wasn't impressed. There is no weighted spot and eventhough they are supposed to be for this kit, they don't fit on the axle.  For this price, they should.  I'll stick with Ultracast from this point on.

Joe

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, November 1, 2014 3:27 PM

You are really motivating me to finish my -C. It won't look nearly this good though. Big shoes to fill there. Great job, as always.

On the bench:

A lot !! And I mean A LOT!!

2024 Kits on deck / in process / completed   

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:58 PM

Looking great Joe ! Very timely as I'm building a 1/7 scale Blue nose and need some motivation! Your NMF is simply stunning ! cheers Trey

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:35 PM

That sounds good to me.......lets go with that.....lol  Thanks for the compliment

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Whistlingdeath on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:00 PM

The putty used on the wings was not very resilient to field cleaning and would eventually wear away in many cases. Crews sometimes used solvents and even fuel to clean surfaces which would remove the putty. When I built my 32nd I opted to save the exquisite surface detail on the Tamiya wings much to chagrin of the experts, but it's all about what makes you happy as the builder.

Excellent work so far on this one. Keep it up.

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, October 27, 2014 12:08 PM

Looking really good so far! How do you get such a nice "worn" look on the yellow; especially on the panel lines. Any preshading or just post shading and what's your technique? Again looks great!   -Andy

-Andy

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Posted by Buckeye on Monday, October 27, 2014 11:25 AM

Looking great so far!

Mike

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:16 PM

Joe, thanks for the link on the tubing!  Great looking bird so far.

Steve

 

 

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