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Tamiya 1:32 Scale Vought F4U-1 Corsair Build

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, June 1, 2015 11:53 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, June 1, 2015 11:56 AM

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, June 1, 2015 12:01 PM

Nicely done Toshi. I can see a marked improvement in your skills already. That pit looks great so far. :)

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, June 1, 2015 12:06 PM

To MBrindos,

Thank you for the generous comments, also thank you for following my threads.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, June 1, 2015 12:09 PM

You are more than welcome Toshi. You just keep doing what you're doing. :)

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 1, 2015 12:10 PM

Glad to see your doing a WiP on this build. I did say to someone recently who was building a Corsair recently that the PTO is not really my thing but I do like this aircraft, has a real nice look to it. Looks like your off to a great start, i'll certainly try and follow along.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, June 1, 2015 12:31 PM

Awesome start Toshi! I'm pulling up my comfy chair and got my popcorn so as to thoroughly enjoy your Corsair WIP. I know it's going to be a show stopper.

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Posted by roger_wilco on Monday, June 1, 2015 4:46 PM

Looking really good so far Toshi.I remember watching "Black Sheep Squadron" as well when I was a kid growing up in the 70's.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:08 AM

To MBrindos,

Thank you ounce again for following this new thread in regards to the F4U-1 Corsair.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:10 AM

To Bish,

I noticed that there are many fans of the Corsair.  Thank you for stopping by.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:12 AM

To JOE RIX,

I hope you get comfy enough as this one build might take a little longer as I'm adding the pilot this time.  Thank you for the read and reply.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:14 AM

To Roger_Wilcox,

Yes, that was my favorite show back then.  Thank you for your support in my builds!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:16 AM

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I actually took the time out and painted the ribs in with black just to see how bad my hands would shake, it turned out great!

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:17 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:20 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:22 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:24 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:26 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:27 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:28 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:29 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:30 AM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:44 AM

In this build I've attempted to take all my lessons and advice from forum members and to the best of my abilities tried to apply it to the Corsair build.  One example was to dry fit the cockpit to the fueselage, I've seen this done yet it only just clicked in my mind to execute this task.  

This time around, I will attempt to place a figure of the pilot seated in the Corsair, I've never done a really nice presentation of a figure.  I was also shocked as the pilot needed to be assembled, a first for me.  I will do my best in preparing the pilot to look presentable in the Corsair build.  One idea I had was to go after a aftermarket decal set of Greg "Pappy" Boyington's Lulubelle/Lucybelle.  I'll be searching for this via eBay.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:55 AM

I forgot to add that this kit has a see through cowling.  Per Tamiyas request, I followed their recommendation.  Sand all clear parts then spray with a nice coat of clear glossy enamel spray.  

Sand what??  No way!  This was absurd to me, destroy such a nice reproduction of a perfectly fine clear parts?  Oh well, not only were they correct but, I think I'll continue to utilize this step in all my builds from this point on.

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Posted by Buckeye on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:20 AM

Looking good Toshi, one of my favorite planes.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:31 PM

Nice work on the 'pit!  Looks great so far!

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:45 PM

To Buckeye,

Thank you!  In regards to what attracts me to a Corsair is its bent wings.  The only other aircraft that was designed as such is the "Stuka" dive bomber.  From what I've read, the Stuka also has a unique sound while diving due to its bent wing shape.  Thank you for the read and reply.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:48 PM

To fly-n-hi,

After building the P-51D's cockpit that's adjacent to the engine, it feels strange to build the Corsair in what looks like a cage.  Everything in the cockpit is so loaded, I don't think even a pilot can get himself into the seat.  LOL!  Thank you for the read and reply.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:15 PM

Looks good, Toshi. Your 'pits come out pretty nicely. Boyington isn't known for flying this particular model. He flew -1A's which among other things have a bubble canopy.

Gull wings are not uncommon. Your big Mariner has one. But inverted gull wings are less so, probably only half a dozen or so such designs produced.

The Stuka often had a wind driven siren. I doubt the wing contributed much noise. It's a very aerodynamic detail of the Corsair, better wing to fuselage transition.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:09 PM

To GMorrison,

You sir, have a wealth of knowledge!  I hope someday in that I can have at the very least, 50% of your knowledge.  Thank you for the read and right.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:34 PM

Ok, this is the Corsair pilot still in the spruce, I'll start with this today.  Hopefully I can utilize the pilot for the F4U-1 Corsair.  

If anyone has a tip on how to paint figures, please let me know as I'm only a beginner modeler.  Thank you in advance.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:34 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:35 PM

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 3:06 PM

I posted this in your P-51 thread. I guess you missed it.

"As a beginner to figure painting I would concentrate on cleaning up the seams and good clean blocking.

Blocking is the term for getting your main colors painted on. I.E. ; face, gloves, pants, boots, etc.

Get that much done and you're ready for the next step which is easy. Washes.

Give us all some progress pics and we can guide you clearly from that point. Just remember that preparation before painting applies to figures as much as it does to models. :)

You'll do great."

I hope this helps you get started my friend.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 6:08 PM

Tips from a master.

I'd only add, less is more. Alot of times in architectural models (usually) we paint the figures grey. Not a good idea here, but if you paint the khaki flight suit, the yellow mae west and the boots, helmet and face good flat colors with clean demarcations, you are off to the races. Dont worry about lots of fine brushwork detail just yet.

Don't use that horrid Testors flesh. Look at yourself in the mirror. You're brown, right, not pink. Paint his face and hands a color like that.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:11 PM

Everything's looking good. Interested to see how your pilot turns out. I've yet to venture into the realm of figure painting. But, I'm sure it will only be a matter of time.

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:24 AM

Toshi, just a question - I noticed you installed the PE harness, but it looks like your figure has a harness molded on. If that's the case, I would recommend taking the PE harness out, since it will be in the way of him sitting in the cockpit.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:57 AM

To GMorrison,

I will discipline my mind; "Less is more".  Thank you GMorrison!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:59 AM

To JOE RIX,

I've done figures in the past but never at a level like this.  I hope it turns out ok.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 6:00 AM

To BrandonD,

I removed the harness just last night.  Tamiya has another PE that is made for a figure, I'll cross my fingers on that one.  LOL!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 6:06 AM

To my fellow forum members,

With a little help from Google as well as photos of forum members past posting of their builds, this is the best I could do so far.  More patience and practice is needed to be able to create a almost life like representation of any figures.  Please see below the photos of the pilot, I finally got done at 3:30am.  LOL!  Yes, I'm a sick demented old fool.  LOL!

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 6:09 AM

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 11:16 AM

That's not bad at all Toshi. I see nothing there that more practice wouldn't make better. Just like your builds, this will only get better and judging from what you've shown us already, you'll be painting figures like a pro in no time.  :)

Like I said above, just concentrate on your blocking and prep work. You're doing very well!

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 11:50 AM

To MBrindos,

Thank you for taking the out with helping and guiding me with not just this figure but also in my WWII aircraft builds.  This Corsair kit comes with a standing pilot figure as well, I'll put him aside with the figures from the Tamiya P-51 and practice on them.  I'll paint them in acrylics, that way I can wash the paint right off to start all over once more.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 1:02 PM

I have a question to Fellow Forum Members?

Since I first started building WW II model kit airplanes I've been using Tamiya masking tape.  Can I use the blue colored masking tape?  This is the tape that is a masking for general home and or painting a room item.  Thank you in advance.

Toshi

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 1:18 PM

Yes Toshi. I use it almost exclusively. Just your standard blue painter's tape.

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Posted by SubarooMike on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 1:57 PM

Toshi

Why did you painting the instrument panel aluminum?   Shes coming along nicely.  Good job on the pilot as well

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:07 PM

Toshi, I use both. Blue tape is hard to cut a complicated edge with so I often use Tamiya the stuff thats about 1/4", to set the line. Then blue next and sometimes tin foil paper or what have you.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:57 PM

To MBrindos,

Thank you for the information!  

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:09 PM

To Subaroomike,

I started the instrument panels in Testors Master Models flat black acrylic.  When it came to the instrument panel I tried to execute the "Dry Brush" technique.  Unfortunately, I realized that the flat black literally got painted over.  I did not want to correct the panel as is the case, when you put together the instrument panel in the 1/32 Tamiya series, the panel, clear plastic then the decals are attached.  Hence I just left it alone.  My biggest fear would be to completely wipe out the decals.

In my humble opinion, I feel that I would create a bigger disaster, not something any modeler would look for.  

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:11 PM

To GMorrison,

Thank you for sharing with me this tip!

Toshi

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 3:41 PM

On the subject of masking I'll give my two cents. I use Tamiya tape exclusively for it's low tackiness, ease of cutting and ability to form curves and shapes. I no longer use blue tape for masking as I've pulled up too much paint and too many decals with it. Actually, I use it to remove decals. Outside of tape I use posterputty(blue tack) and Silly Putty. I could sing the praises of Sill Putty all day long. Simply love the stuff. You can manipulate to any shape you desire and create soft or sharp edges. Here's an example of what I have done with it on my 1/72 Hasegawa Focke Wulf FW 190:

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:32 PM

To JOE RIX,

I want to thank you on the visual build and how the silly putty works.  I've heard this many times yet, I had no idea how to use it.  Thank you for your time and effort in helping me with this issue.

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Posted by SubarooMike on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 6:37 PM

Toshi

In my humble opinion, I feel that I would create a bigger disaster

Toshi

I'm fluent in that! LOL

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 6:42 PM

I am very glad to help out in any way. If you should opt to give Silly Putty a try let me know and I'll pass on a couple of very helpful hints on working with it. First and foremost is do NOT put it on flat paint or a flat coat. It "grabs" on to it and it is then hard to remove and it will leave a stain.

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:02 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:18 PM

I forgot to mention, I also got a very small tube of water base "Burnt Umber".  On almost every build, I continuously read that the weathering effect is done on "Burnt Umber".  

I know there are many ways to achieve the weathering effect, can anyone give me any tips or pointers with this wash of "Burnt Umber"?  Thank you in advance.

Toshi

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Posted by roger_wilco on Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:46 PM

She's looking really good Toshi.I'm a big fan of Tamiya Extra Thin Cement. The applicator brush that's part of the cap is nice.much better than the bushy one that comes with Testors liquid cement.With that I have dedicated brush that I use. This kit looks like a complicated beast,but you seem to be taming it nicely...Douglas

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:24 PM

To roger_wilcox,

Thank you for your support and words of wisdom.  I too have the Testors liquid cement, and yes, the brush is questionable.  Hence my purchase today of the Tamiya Extra Thin Cement.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 5:36 AM

Last night, I took Mrs. Toshi out to dinner at Rockne's, a local Nothern Ohio eatery and pub and we both had a bowl of chicken dumpling soup followed by loaded fries and our main entree of Reuben sandwiches.  We then went home to just relax, well Mrs. Toshi did and I went straight into my Corsair build.  Yet surprisingly the Corsair build is my way of relaxing.

I was left with the daunting task of glueing both left and right side of the F4U main body, for me personally, this is where my biggest mistakes occur.  Too much glue, not enough glue, fueselage not square, interior components not lining up to specifications.  This leads to putty and more putty and sanding, and more sanding.

After several YouTube videos on fueselage assembly, I finally went to Hobby Lobby and purchased the Tamiya Thin Cement that seems to be used by every serious pro-modeler.  They and forum members were right on the money, this works exactly like the way it is portrayed.  One of the guys I love to watch via the Tube is ISM (International Scale Modeler).  He does a excellent job on fit and finish although some of it can be very boring, I try to use his technique and equipment and supplies to emulate what he's assembling.  

Inch per inch, I slowly closed the body of the Cosair, found the weak points and placed some blue tape and clamps, to straighten the F4U-1 Corsair.  Most items purchased via commercial advertisement don't always live up to expectations.  Tamiya is one company that has me religiously following the Tamiya branded items.  I will point out that some of their products are pricy but well worth the cost as it does exactly as advertised.  

Below are a few photos of the completed fueselage halfs glued together.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 5:43 AM

These three parts and the cockpit are the key to a successful assembly of the front end, the tail end with the complicated cage is the last key part in the assembly procedure.

Here is a photo from the actual build guide/sheet.

As I did for the last several weeks, sleep finally overtook my senses and I left the Corsair to dry for the night.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 5, 2015 11:27 AM

Hey Toshi the cockpit looks great!

I didn't see anyone mention it but 'Frog tape' is also really good for masking- it looks like Tamiya tape but you get a really big fat roll for not much more money. 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 12:36 PM

To Gamera,

I've never heard of "Frog Tape", that's a new one for me.  I'll google it.  Thank you for the heads up and the read and reply.

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Posted by Greg on Friday, June 5, 2015 12:54 PM

Wow. I'm busy for 5 days, check in and you're 1/3 done with another one. Smile

Looking good, Toshi.

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Posted by patrick206 on Friday, June 5, 2015 1:39 PM

Hi, Toshi -

I buy my frog tape at a Sherwin Williams paint store near me, I imagine it may be available at many similar stores. Very good quality and inexpensive. It has it's uses, but still I slightly favor Scotch Blue Tape for most of my masking. The Tamiya tape works best for me cut into about 1/16" strips, used to mask straight or slightly curved surfaces, it doesn't curve tightly as well as the Blue. The Blue, cut into those fine strips makes and holds a fairly tight curve.

Another effective tape for masking is Scotch Removable Tape, good for masking the entire area, easy to cut and removes without lifting paint, BUT, it does sometimes tend to leave a bit of residue behind if left on very long. That is quite easy to remove with just a little finger rub. That tape though, will not bend to make a curve.

The Corsair is coming along quite well, you're doing a good job of aligning and clamping as you proceed with your gluing. She'll be a beaut when finished.

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 2:07 PM

To Greg,

With the kids living on their own and Mrs. Toshi at work, I'm left with household chores, three cats, and a teddy bear hamster named Albert.  No, they are not mines, two cats and Albert the hamster belongs to my daughter.  Now I'm stuck with litter and hay!  LOL.  

As for my time, I'll do some building of the Corsair, take a break, watch a You Tube video on model kit assembly, and go right back to my beloved Corsair.  That's the make up on most days, the rest are dedicated to doctors appointments and Mrs. Toshi on her days off.

I had to stop a few times with this F4U-1 kit, there's questionable and confusing data.  Of course this is not Tamiyas fault but my own.  I'm still sanding the fueselage, then comes the engine and wings.  It's like forty five to fifty pages just on the wings (The folded wings are also part of the included description) it's a huge task to tackle but it's part of the most gratifying and exciting parts of this build, especially when things start to take shape into a Corsair.  Thank you for the read and reply!

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 2:12 PM

To Patrick206,

Thank you for the masking and what type of tape information you've shared with me as well as other forum members.  Masking might be a joke to the simple observer but, for modelers this issue can become a make or brake scenario.  

Thank you for stopping by and sharing that vital information.

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 6:23 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 6:29 PM

I'm going to go with the clear cowling.  I'm concerned with finger prints and even a speck of paint hence, while the engine will be constructed away from my work station.  Actually the dinning table!  LOL .

This is not the Tamiya formula, although the base is.  The rest is of what I have in inventory and looking at other builds on the Internet.

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 5, 2015 6:36 PM

I did not know what to use as far as the glue is concerned.  I thought of CA, but with clear parts, it will look like San Fransico bay.  LOL.  Then I thought of Testors Clear Parts Cement.  The rest of the engine will be secured on this base constructed with the exhaust system.  I'm weary that the Testors Clear Cement can hold that weight.  I finally went with the Tamiya Extra Thin Cement.  I'm confident this will hold together.  Thank you in advance for your time and support forum members!

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Posted by BrandonD on Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:57 AM

Toshi -

I was able to use the Testors Clear Parts Cement on my 1/32 clear P-51D (Monogram Phantom Mustang). You're correct that it's not as strong as other glues, but it worked for 90 percent of that build.

In this situation, I would use the Tamiya cement on the back plate mounting, and then use the clear parts cement to hold the cowling itself to the plate with the exhaust pipes. I haven't built the 1/32 Tamiya Corsair yet, but if it's engineered anything like the F4U-1D in 1/48 that I put the cowling on tonight, any crazing from the Tamiya cement will be hidden, and the rear piece is what does the heavy lifting. You should be fine with the Testors stuff (or Micro Kristal Klear) for the cowling itself.

Also, not sure if anyone else replied, but your interior color is fine. I haven't seen the pinkish color you mentioned in any of my references, and while it may very well have been put on some, somewhere and be correct for some builds, your green zinc chromate is also correct.

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:18 AM

Oh, I didn't think that the Testors Clear Cement was that good.  I mean it's a great product and I've actually made windows with it on my Mariner build but, it's nice to know.  That's a good tip, I think I'll use your technique.  

Recently, there was a Corsair found in one of the Great Lakes.  It was in prestine condition.  When the Corsair was brought up, it had that god awful pink salmon color as the interior was painted as such.  Well, I guess Tamiya wanted to go in that direction, Tamiya can paint the interior with purple dots, I'll stick with the good old green zinc chromate.  

What's funny is that these 1/32 kits comes with a book on the history and stats on the aircraft to be built.  Then in the back of the book, it shows live actual photos of the aircraft your about to build.  You are correct in that I have yet to see this pink corsair except for one build that I found on the Internet and it definitely looks like a "Malibu Barbie" Corsair.  LOL!

I'd love to see your mustang and Corsair build!  Thanks for the tips and the read and reply.

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Posted by RobGroot4 on Saturday, June 6, 2015 3:07 PM

Toshi,

 Looking good.  The Testor's clear glue is basically watered down Elmer's glue, so strength is somewhat limited.  I don't have any experience using Tamiya Thin on clear parts, maybe try gluing 2 pieces of clear sprue together and see what happens?

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 6, 2015 3:19 PM

To RobGroot4,

Thank you for taking the time out and sharing your recommendation as well as the read and reply.

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 6, 2015 3:40 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 6, 2015 3:43 PM

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Posted by patrick206 on Saturday, June 6, 2015 4:18 PM

Rob and Toshi - The Tamiya thin, or any other styrene plastic cement will work well on clear parts, but you must be very careful when applying it. It has high "capillary action," which means it wicks into the small places very quickly. It's quite prone to travel to spots outside the specific where you want it to go, if applied a bit too heavily.

When I do use it, I make certain that the piece is precisely placed, then using a VERY TINY pointed brush I dip it into the cement jar, touch the brush against the inside of the jar above the cement level, to remove the excess cement back into the jar. The brush hairs will then have just enough cement to transfer to the space between the model and the clear part. It is enough to attach it at that spot, but not so much as to spread to a larger area outside the space and ruin the clear bit by "getting outside the line."

Once that spot has a few seconds to set and somewhat firm up, I move to another spot away from that one, like maybe the opposite side. That method is similar to what welders do, called "spot welding. As you proceed around the clear bit, eventually you get it all covered.

For my own method I prefer to use white glue, no damage to the clear part if placed incorrectly, easily removable and cleaned up with water for another attempt. If the model will only be displayed and not handled or played with, the white glue is plenty strong enough. If only displayed, I can't see a reason for a strong glue that makes it a permanent installation, that can actually ruin a part if mis-applied. Just saying.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, June 6, 2015 5:29 PM

Toshi: Looks good to me!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:35 PM

Looking great Toshi.  Have you considered rigging that radial...since your using the clear cowl?  It may enhance the realism.  Heres a tutorial on how I do it, which is pretty much on all my radial engines.  It's tedious but fairly easy.  

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/149327.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

I lke Rockne's too, particularly the Termintor sub....

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 6:47 AM

To Lawdog114,

Yes, very much so.  I don't think I'll be ready for something like that but, I was seriously considering a PE engine.  Then after some shopping around, I thought to myself; "I spent a lot of money on this series on  a Tamiya's 1/32 line.  I might as well build it straight from the box like I did with the Mustang.  I know, it looks great with the wire loom and there is a sense of great accomplishment, I'm just surprised I'm able to get through the Cosair build.  It actually is a much more challenging kit than anything I've ever done to date!  

Don't get me wrong, I love assembling the Corsair, it is so challenging that I need to step back every so often to give myself a quick break.  From the looks of it after studying the manual, the wings which can be extended or folded is the biggest and hardest obstacle at this juncture.  I've never seen so many parts just for a wing let alone for a entire WWII aircraft.  

I am looking at the next build of which I've never done one of.  It's also from the same Tamiya series from the 1/32 scale line.  It's the "Supermarine Spitfire"!  This aircraft seems to have the same type of Merlin Rolls Royce engine that the Mustang has.  I was seriously considering making spark plug wires since that engine is also visible.  Plus instead of a radial engine where the wires are run through the engine, the Merlins are built like the old school Straight 6, 8, 12, and 16 valve car engines.  Yes, they had a car back in the early 1930's and 1940's with a straight 16.  It was a Lincoln and a Cadillac.  Which both are still being built today of course with out such a massive engine.  It would probably get 5 miles to a gallon.  Just to go get groceries, it will cost you possibly $200.00 in gas!  LOL.  You'd have to fill up on the way and fill up again just to get home.  I have an uncle back home who owns a straight 16 Lincoln.  I'm very familiar with these straight blocks as I rebuilt a 1979 Mercury Zephyr straight six back in the day.

After this build, I do see one more WWII aircraft (Propeller airplane) left.  It's another model I have never ever made, the infamous Mitsubishi Zero.  It's also in the 1/32 Tamiya's series.  This series is nothing I've ever seen nor built before.  I assume it's the top of the line high end static model kits in the Tamiya line.  It seems these 1/32 kits start at approximately $100.00 and up to $200.00 which would include the Mustang, Corsair, and the Zero.  The Zero is a ridiculous $300.00 and up dollars as it's on a proprietary Tamiya base and has rotating props and creates the sound of an actual Zero starting up or flying.  I don't know which, there is another 1/32 Zero without these special accessories that sells for about a $100.00.  I think I'll stick with that unless Mrs. Toshi says otherwise.

Thank you sir and the many Forum members that's been following this build, and has been giving me the support and knowledge in what to do or not do.  In your case by enhancing the Corsir as a whole.

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 7:07 AM

To Patrick206,

Thank you for the very valuable tip.  It seems as simple as this; "The correct tool, in this case glue, for the correct job".  Your information is priceless.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 7:08 AM

To Gamera,

Thank you very much, I'll try to continue at a high level to the best of my abilities.  Thank you for the supportive comment and stopping by.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 10:21 AM

Good Afternoon my fellow "Model Artist" forum members,

I must now add that you are all not just " Fellow Forum Members" but I now add "Model Artist".  All I keep seeing on these threads are museum quality pieces depicting actual real life aircraft, Tanks, and Cars just to name a few.

I hope one day my kits are as half as good as forum members.  These threads are most inspiring at best.  My contribution for 6/7/15 Sunday at 11:15am is a build by build, step by step, live photographs as I complete each sequence of this build.  Thank you all for this opportunity, I am most great full to be part of this community.

Toshi

These photos depict a pre-prep, before, and after photos in live sequence as I start and finish each step.  This is from page 17, steps 34-36.  Thank you in advance!

One lesson learned from my previous Tamiya 1/32 P-51D Mustang build is that I was not focused on the attachments of the horizontal stabilizers nor the elevators.  On the P-51D, one drooped while the other went up.  From that, here are the same steps but with me focused on this assembly.

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 12:11 PM

Here we have the tail wheel and components landing gear.  As such you have the option to add a tail hook if you so choose to do so.  Of course given the design that your Corsair is a carrier based aircraft.  I'm choosing to depict my Corsair as a USMC Corsair.  Although I do think that to add the arresting hook looks really cool, I know for a fact it is not so.  

Toshi

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The time of completion for the tail landing gear is 6/6/7/15 Sunday at 1:08pm.

Next up is the complicated/OMG assembly of the wings.  You have a choice to pick either the folded wings or the extended wings.  I will choose the extended wings as that is what I see in my minds eye and this is the most universally excepted pose when one describes the infamous Vought F4U-1 Corsair.

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 12:13 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 12:54 PM

I have a question to any member familiar to the Corsair

I thought that the name of the Corsair was "Chance Vought F4U Corsair?  I don't see the word "Chance" anymore.  Why is this so?

Toshi

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 7, 2015 3:17 PM

Looking very nice there.

At a guess, I think its just to shorten it. All of there aircraft are just referred to as Vought, the last name of the man who founded it.

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 3:31 PM

Got it thank you Mr. Bish!

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 7:24 PM

6/7/15 Sunday, 8:10pm

So from page 19 to page 48, there is nothing but the description of assembling the main wings.  There is another page for the landing gears as well as the vertical tail end.  This is from page 20 steps 40-43.

Mrs. Toshi said that I should eat dinner and take a shower, and take a breather from the Corsair.  Maybe I'll wait till she goes to sleep and then I can sneak back to continue my build.  LOL!!!

until then, I'll follow up tomorrow.  Thank you forum members, and a goodnight to you all. 

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, June 7, 2015 7:25 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:09 AM

Here is a small but nice Monday mid- morning assembly that was done, (The rest of the day as well as today is shot.  Just not feeling well, we all have our bad days and good days) maybe if I can muster up some energy, I'll be able to do just a little more work around the house as well as on the Corsair.  I'll try some Kona coffee and a English Muffin.  That'll get my spirits going.

Anyway, here is the wing mid-section assembly, there's as much parts in this area as there was in the cockpit.  I think my people (Peeps) just takes it too far sometimes!  LOL!  I must add that like all builds, these intricate and detailed artistic works will never get seen by anyone else.  

I've been a jazz musician playing in venues all over the world, at the very least, after a hard weeks of practicing, your craft is presented at the concert to share with the audience.  With such detail work in modeling that only you know that's there, I find this truly an art that is enjoyed in ones own inner sanctum of piece.  Or maybe we're just masochist at best.  LOL!

This is was a disappointment coming from myself as I cannot blame Tamiya.  Look at those gaps at the air intakes for the oil coolers.  Horrific at best.

Thanks to FSM members, I now have some knowledge in correcting my errors!

I had had absolutely no idea that there was a glass plate right below the pilot.  What is there to see through all those pipes, gear, and wires?  LOL!

Now ow on to the main wings.  This is my potential color scheme, I'll base this Corasair as a Navy aircraft.

toshi

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:18 PM

Sorry that I've been distracted quite a bit by yard work lately and I haven't kept up with my posts here. Overall you're doing one bang up job on your Corsair Toshi. So it appears from what your showing and saying is that you have to pay close attention to part placement in order to avoid gaps such as you have in your wing. Pretty common with kits that have a high parts count in certain areas.

Concerning your earlier observations about the salmon colored cockpit here is a link to the IPMS Stockholm site that does a nice job of addressing US Navy aircraft interior colors. You'll find that the salmon colored primer was used on all interior surfaces other than the cockpit in early Corsairs. I'll leave to you to read the rest of this very good article. You'll find links at the top of the page to further reference on US aircraft interior colors that are also excellent. i really like this site. The folks there seem to be very knowledgeable and very thorough in their research. I hope this helps for future builds and just some enjoyable reading.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/05/stuff_eng_interior_colours_us_part3.htm

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:09 PM

To JOE RIX,

Yes, so many parts for sure.  I think as many forum members have mentioned at how quickly I'm able to complete an assembly on my aircraft models, especially the Tamiya Mustang, at times, I know this is where I err at.  This causes my errors in not focusing on my particular task at hand.  Hence causing these parts to not fit per directions, especially a Tamiya kit.

This was one of the main reasons I started making models, you see, I had a traumatic brain injury also known as TBI as a work related accident.  For years, therapist could not find something that interest me to work on cognition, until a therapist purchased a Testors F4U Corsair for me to assemble.  This is what started my passion once again.  Besides focusing, model kits also helps with my math, fine motor skills, and many other physical disabilities that are too many to name here.

My enjoyment and happiness comes from being part of this community of artists, and having the opportunity to be able to share my builds with other like minded individuals like yourself.  Mrs. Toshi supports anything I choose to do, but although she thinks my builds are nice, it's not the same as if you or a fellow forum member would appreciate my work.  Getting comments from you all leaves me flabbergasted!  When I view everyone's builds on this forum, I can't even grasped the technical abilities to turn a piece of plastic into a art form.  

I am so happy to be able to finally get an explanation on the so called horrific pink salmon color (Malibu Barbie and Ken Doll Airplane).  LOL!  I now understand why the pink color is but only the primer, but as my own personal choice, I think I will continue with either the green zinc chromate or the yellow zinc chromate.  Lastly, thank you sir for the read and reply.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:13 PM

Tuesday, 10:11pm 6/8/15

here I have my final assembly for the day, I think I did a better job of masking on the Corsair compared to my 6 previous builds.  With the fueselage attached, it's really getting exciting to see this build come to fruition.  

Thank you all, and a goodnight.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:14 PM

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Posted by patrick206 on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:11 PM

Very nice, Toshi, your builds keep reflecting increased ability, the accompanying texts describe how well you are absorbing advanced techniques from the other members. I believe one day soon enough you'll be turning out great ones like Lawdog, Nathan and Brandon, the patience and discipline being invested now will pay off in a big way down the road, then you will enjoy the hobby all the more.

Thank you for all of the posts and photos, we all enjoy seeing how well you are doing. I wish all the best of success, as you continue to recover from your injury. And tell Mrs. Toshi that I said she is a wonderful lady and sweet wife, for helping and supporting you so much during your recovery and with your hobby.

All the best

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:27 AM

To Patrick206,

You and the many members here are not like, but are my second family!  You've supported my ambitions and continue to do so.  This is beyond my expectations, I will also never use the theme that I'm only so good because of my injury.  I will be adamant and say it's due to my novice approach and that this is only my seventh build, hence I utilize your builds and the many other builds as my inspiration to become at least half as good as you.  Thank you for believing in me and my limited but growing skills.  

Don't get me wrong, I'm shocked at what the Corsair is turning into thanks to all of your and members input and knowledge.  Each day when I wake up, I look over to my first builds to my most previous build and I do see a marked improvement.  With that being said, I must present on my threads at the very least and to show in real time and in each step some type of gain, large or small, in your words and many others in that; "reflecting increased abilities", must be my burning desire.  If I don't, then I'm not only lying to myself but to my second family as well.  Patrick206, you sir are too kind!  

Now onto my Corsair, I want to thank everyone for their support and especially the replies.  I do have some questions and comments.  First the comment:

1.  I tried to research the glass window beneath the pilot unsuccessfully.  Do any members have some or any type of information regarding this so called window?  Who in hell wants to see no floors except this window, I know for a fact that at 400 miles an hour, everything viewed as such will be a blurred in-accurate position especially between your legs.  

2. Now that I know that the Pink (Malibu Barbie) salmon color was a primer to the majority of naval aircraft, I am ever so grateful for this information.  I thought I was going crazy there for a minute.

Now my question:

1.  Is it not all factory/aftermarket masks pre-cut?  FYI, I had to take a brand new razor to cut these out for the Corsair as this mask was not pre-cut.  Why is this.

2.  A thought too late to be asking this question, would you and other members choose to present this Corsair in the folded wing assembly and why?  There is no wrong answer here, I'm just curios as to members choices.  I humbly in my own opinion still feel that to do justice to this Corsair kit, the extended wing configuration is a must.  

3.  Does anyone or I should say do anyone feel that my choice color to this Corsair build incorrect?  Before you answer this question, I did get the actual Tamiya recommended color.  Yet it did not sit well with Mrs. Toshi, my daughter whom is going to Kent State University as a PHD in photography and art major, and I, felt that the Tamiya recommended paint scheme was not only inaccurate but, way way off (Too cartoonish).  Please see the photo pic 3 starting from the last or most recent pic.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:42 AM

I forgot to add, yes Patrick 206, I tell Mrs. Toshi every day!

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:14 AM

Toshi, you're making great progress!

Never built that kit but the 1/48th Tamiya Corsair has lousy fit around the oil coolers too. I wonder if they scaled up that kit???

I think the lower window had something to do use of the plane as a bomber. I'd have to look it up, that's off the top of my head.

That's interesting about the masks, the Eduard ones I use, are pre-cut. You only have to stick a knife tip under them and pull them out.  These are the Tamiya masks from the kit right? I've used a few but don't remember if they were pre-cut or not now.

Not sure what you daughter means- US Corsairs only came in two schemes as far as I know- white, medium blue, and dark blue for the middle of the war and all over glossy dark blue late in the war and Korea. You can lighten the paint some for paint fading in the hot Pacific sun if you want though.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:03 AM

To Gamera,

The reference to my daughter is this; since I bought her her first camera of which is a Cannon SLR, I've had been giving tips to her on photography and art (In Amsterdam, I studied Rembrandt and Van Gogh).  Now that she is studying at Kent State, the tides were turned 180 degrees.  I go to her now for the aforementioned situations, as her knowledge now supersedes my information.

Since I started making WWII aircraft model kits, she has been my constant observer and critique, (Sometimes harsh, she now understands the term "Tough Love" maybe a bit too much.  LOL!).  So in choosing a base color medium, I used her very accurate eye for what will be the Corsair's final paint scheme.  That is why I used her as a reference, plus with Mrs. Toshi and my additional input, I feel as I can't loose at least in regards to painting the F4U.  Thank you Gamera for your input and reply!

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:15 AM

I forgot Gamera:

The oil coolers were the most challenging part to fit like your 1/48 F4U.  From my knowledge they did not upgrade and or scale up the kit.

The bomber answer is the most accurate and sensible explanation.  

I purchased Eduard masks for my P-61 Black Widow.  These were pre-cut as you mentioned, I checked a lot of Eduard masks, they are all pre-cut.  I assume that Tamiya did so for the builder as most builders have great experience as well as many years of model building, with these veterans like yourself I'm sure that Tamiya felt this was a simple affair to experience modeler.  

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:57 AM

It's a bomb aimers window, a vestige of the original specification. It only was on F4U-1 and some early 1A's. And, usually it was painted over. Hard to find pictures with a clear one.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:18 AM

Ahhhh, thanks GM, I've built a number of them including my 1960's El Salvadorian and never painted over that blasted window! Well, I guess now I know better...

Toshi: Ah, well I'm not an artist, I just paint stuff the colour they call for and sometimes alter it where an article in FSM, the internet, or someone in the modeling club tells me to!

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Posted by patrick206 on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:03 PM

Toshi -  Regarding wings folded or flight ready, I feel the airplane just looks more "right" with wings in flight position. The folded position shows well how the mechanism works and has plenty of complex detail, but doesn't seem that the airplane appears in it's intended purpose.

The wings folded only to facilitate storage of the airplane in close proximity to others, but with wings ready for flight it looks like it's ready to go kick some tail. Plus, I think it's one elegant design, very distinctive and kind of graceful. Your model is looking mighty fine, for paint color I always thought the dark sea blue was a classic appearance.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:07 PM

Only one answer- build two!

I vote for flight position.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:23 PM

To GMorrison,

Ah ha!  Gamera instincts was accurate.  I know, thanks to you that I must never cease to research my builds.  Hence I was looking at F4U-1 Corsair's information, that's why I could not find any related description on the bomber glass but, as your statement says, that this was painted out on the F4U-1 and of course the F4U-1A's.  

If my memory serves me right GMorrison, it was the Navy that requested a fighter, bomber, and attack aircraft compatible with an aircraft carrier's take off and landing in 1938.  Now the bombers window makes absolute sense.  At that time, the Corsair was the fastest airplane ever produced.

Thank you Mr. GMorrison for your valued information.  You are an human Wikipedia on WWII aircraft!  Once again and again, I can't thank you enough for the read and replies.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:30 PM

To GMorrison,

I too vote for flight position.  Thank you sir.

Patrick 206,

Yes sir, my sentiments exactly.  As for the deep blue?  I concur with the color combination.  As always, thank you sir.

To Gamera,

You're too modest, whether or not you disagree or otherwise, all of what I've seen here are artist portraying their art form via Static Model Kits.  Thank you sir.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:57 PM

I have before and after shots of the F4U that I'm building in regards to pre-prep sanding, fitting, and a airbrush shot of primer.  Please view photos below.  Speaking about airbrushes, I have some quick questions including panel outlining.

1)  I have a Harbor Freight Tools compressor.  It's always at 58 lbs. per square inch as there is no way to adjust the pressure.  I looked far and wide including the internet resources and found a few adjustable pressure valves.  I settled for a Iwata in-line MAC valve (Actually it connects to the airbrush followed by my Iwata hose).  The Iwata MAC valve for my air pressure regulator is now ergonomically at my finger tips.  My question is why do I have to be shooting at 15 to 25 PSI?  At these pressures, won't I have issues and or create more problems as an example, at 15 PSI won't the needle get plugged up due to the low air pressure.  Thank you in advance.

2)  My NEO per Iwata states that this airbrush is fitted with a 0.35 point needle and needle head.  Iwata claims this is the most simple way for beginners to learn, although it will not paint very thin lines, it will also not have a large overspray.  So my 2nd. question is, I am going to be purchasing a 0.5 needle, do I need to change the head to 0.5 as well?  Thank you in advance.

3) As for outlining the panels, prior to the base color coat, must I use an airbrush for this technique or can I simply hand paint in the panel lines.  Also, can I get the pros and cons of either airbrush or hand paint.  Thank you in advance.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:01 PM

Toshi-  Your skills have progressed by leaps and bounds.  Very well done.

As to another reason for the gull wing, I heard once way back when that it had to do with keeping the main gear legs short enough for more strength and eliminate a 2 piece strut due to prop size and ground clearance. It also left more room for fuel and guns/ammo in the wing since the gear was shorter, and space would be at a preimum.  Just look at the main gear length on an F8 Bearcat...  As to Chance-Vought, I suspect it is more due to ownership changes than just shortening the company name.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:19 PM

Thank you Toshi, but it's more Wikipedia than Morrison. I tend to like to research stuff, and try really hard not to use a built model as reference, or a single written source for anything.

That being said, and if it matters to you, the color choices are three color, or blue gray over light gray. For Sea Gray over white you need earlier markings.

Here's some info on the cockpit colors, FYI:

William Reece in his well known monograph “USN & USMC Aircraft Interiors of WWII” dated 20 April, 2004 states:

   “F4U-1 Birdcage Corsair. Cockpit: Well this is tricky. The best evidence is black. Photos of F4U-1s taken at the time show the cockpits as being a very dark color. The F4U-1 E & M manual calls for Dull Dark Green. Photos and some wrecks show flat black. A photo of 'Pappy" Boyington in Bruce Gamble's book, The Black Sheep, shows him sitting in a Birdcage with a black armor plate and upper seat. This a/c also has no headrest. All other areas of the F4U-1 Birdcage Corsair would normally be 'Salmon'. Salmon is a pale pinkish/brown primer made by mixing Indian Red pigment with Zinc Chromate Yellow. The closest Munsell match is 2.5 YR 6/8 or between FS 32276 and FS 32356. This color was applied to the whole F4U before the final camouflage finish. The landing gear bays were this color. The insides of the main gear doors were Light Gray. Sometimes this was only over spray over the Salmon. Note: there were canvas covers on the inner and outer wheel bays that were either Olive Drab or Light Gray. The closest paint that I have found to the Salmon samples in my possession is PollyScale Railroad, Southern Pacific Daylight Orange. The E & M manual calls for the wheel bays, engine cowling and accessory cowlings to be painted in Non-Specular Light Gray to match the underside of the aircraft. Recovered wrecks show these areas to be Salmon however. Color photos of early Corsairs show the cowling interior to be Non-Specular Light Gray.”

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:21 PM

To Goldhammer,

Thank you for the compliments.  Yes, I read the same correspondence as well.  Still, I admit even without the corrective issues, the Corsair is one beautiful plane.

I think in terms of ownership, I must agree with you as I feel the same way.  

Thank you for the read and replies,

Toshi

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:33 PM

Some paint thoughts. Too high a pressure and the paint can do a lot of bad things. The worst is what's called "fisheyes" where you'll get a bare spot surrounded by a ring of paint. Also some paints will dry before they hit the model if they are too vaporized and the model is too far away. Low pressure won't clog the nozzle, it's the same as when you haven't used the double action to send paint through.

I don't have an Iwata. My Badger, the needles and nozzles come as a pair. You switch both. My old Paasche was the same way, only finicky had to be readjusted whenever you did that. Better to have several airbrushes.

IF you preshade the panel lines, and your current model would seem to be one where that makes sense with the totally beat up tropical weathering- it needs to be a soft line IMO. Take a look at my Tiran 5 model over in Armor, you can see the steps and the results. Hard lines or Sharpie lines etc. either look wrong, or by the time you've put enough color over them to look right, are hard to see.

Another thing you can try, this is really old school. After you've painted the bird blue, get a really sharp hard pencil like a 2H and draw in the panel line. It's a little tricky when they are recessed as you can get two little lines side by side. But it's an old trick that works pretty well on raised panel lines.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:38 PM

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:44 PM

To GMorrison,

Thank you for the information.  What does IMO mean?  Yes, I will utilize that technique.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:52 PM

IMO-internet abreviation for "in my opinion"

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:15 PM

Looks good Toshi. :)

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Posted by Jay Jay on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:50 PM

Your Corsair is coming along quite nicely.  I've been hesitant to tackle a 1/32 kit thus far but you're giving me the inspiration to do so. Ty Toshi for the excellent posts.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:12 PM

To GMorrison,

Once again and again, thank you.  The description you've given me from William Reece is amazing.  Step by step Mr. Reece statements makes more and more sense in regards to the interior of the Corsair. Much thanks for this.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:15 PM

To Goldhammer,

Thank you for the IMO description.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:26 PM

To M. Brindos,

Thank you!

To Jay Jay,

I very much want to build either a Tamiya 1/32 scale Zero or a Spitfire or both.  The later being more of a reality than a wish, both are from the same series as the Mustang and my current build, the Corsair.  I'm in love with the detail, the huge amount of parts, the included rubber tires, and photo etch.  

Your welcome on the posts, it's just as much for my own rehabilitation in writing and correspondence as it is for forum members.  Once again thank you, I urge you to not just consider a 1/32 scale aircraft, but to tackle these very models from Tamiya.  They are exceptional at best!

Toshi

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:18 PM

Toshi, I know you like a good story. Some years back there was a Group Build here that went on for years, reinventing itself every year. A group of several dozen guys became quite close friends through it. In the end, in gratitude to our long time and long suffering leader Darren, we bought a Tamiya Spitfire and took turns working on it. Basically everyone got a bage of the instructions, and it got shipped from modeler to modeler, literally around the world!

It was presented to Darren as a surprise gift.

You can read about it here:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/75307.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:32 PM

Wow, how cool is that!  The link to the site is unbelievable, that was not a good story, that was an amazing story.  Thank you for sharing.

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Posted by patrick206 on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:49 PM

Toshi - If you stated what paint you are using, I'm sorry that I've forgotten. Seems like it might be Testors, so likely enamel. At any rate, for the most part my painting is done with dual and single action Badger airbrushes, just about always between 12 and 16 psi. Sometimes as low as 10,(rarely,) and 20 psi, (even less.) Many not good things come with very high pressures, paint can dry before reaching the surface and cause lot's of over spray issues, making for a dusty, messy work area. Best to not get Mrs. Toshi miffed.

Your spray job looks just great, you're off and running Buddy, I can see this will be a real beauty when finished. What instruments do you play? I worked my way through university as a musician, I would stand at the front door of nice restaurants and play the tuba, until they paid me to leave.

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:22 AM

To Patrick206,

I'll definitely wait for my MAC valve to arrive (Any day now) before I spray the Corsair.  

LOL!  The TUBA!!!

In all seriousness, I played the trumpet like my father.  He was the old school big band trumpeter, he backed up Stan Kenton, Sammy Davis Jr., Frank Sinatra, Elvis, and many more.  I remember these names especially those mentioned.  He would take me to his gigs and I'll watch back stage as a little kid.

I went completely in the opposite direction.  I ended up in the Jazz Combo scene, quartet, quintet, etc.  my band was called Jazz Attack.  It was a continuation of Art Blakely and the Jazz Messengers school of Jazz.  All it was was, I just never stopped playing jazz and any type of music.  My last job, I hired my dad just before he died, that was one of the best concerts ever as we played Latin Salsa.  It was for the Ms. Latin America Pageant.

My second memorable concert was in Scotland in Saint Andrews, I did the very first Live Aid concert there.  It was with a band from Chicago called the Abrams Brothers.  Imagine a black guitarist that sounded like Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaugn, and Jimi Hendricks all in one person while playing some of the most baddest funk music (Detrioit style) I've ever played.  In Amsterdam, we started to extend our sets to go all night into the morning non-stop.  We were the precursors of Rave before the term was even used.  Of course at 18, you're young, full of energy and just plain stupid!  LOL!  Or may I say ignorant.  

I came back home to care for my dad, I ended up meeting Mrs. Eslit AKA: Toshi, got married had two kids a boy and a girl.  So I quit playing, and worked as a executive chef and master sushi chef.  It was the later that got my foot into the door.  I was trained as a sushi chef by the student of the official sushi chef of the Emperor of Japan.  How ironic, in that, some 20 years later, here I am building WWII aircraft that finally brought down the Empire of Japan.  

By the way, I've never ever made a zero kit yet.  I just have a passion for WWII American aircraft.  Here's a story for forum members that I'd like to share about my family.  This is just a story based on true events, not to insult nor offend anyone, and if I did so, please except my deepest heartfelt sincere apology.  

December 7, 1941

My dad and my great grandmother did their normal Sunday morning shopping in downtown Honolulu.  All of a sudden, my dad said there were planes flying really close to the ground.  Then it started to rain heavily.  My great grandmother told my dad; "That's not rain, those are bullets from a machine gun".  My dad answered; "Why are the American planes shooting at us"?  Great grandmother replied; 'Those aren't  American planes, those are Japanese planes.  The next thing my father heard were fireworks, then he recalled black smoke billowing from Pearl Harbor.  Pearl is approximately 8 miles from downtown Honolulu.  Once home, great grandmother burned all documents, photos, and family history that pertained to Japan.  She then told my dad that we are Americans living in U.S. Territory.  

I had a distant uncle that served during WWII, he became what's known today as the 442 All Japanese regimental group.  Till this day, the 442 is the most decorated battalion in the history of America.  Uncle lost his arm only to become a state Senetor of Hawaii.  

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:31 PM

To my Fellow Artists Members,

I don't know where to start, but the Corsair has ended in a disaster!!!

I lost balance and dropped the Corsair onto the outdoor patio.  Our patio is concrete, so I'm sure you all know what styrene plastic sounds like when hitting a concrete pour.  Not something you really want to hear nor see.

Both wings are marred and scratched plus they broke off, the engine fell apart into several pieces (It looks like a million pieces), I know something happened to the cockpit as when you tilt the Corsair in any direction, all you here is little pieces of styrene plastic jiggling in the fuesalage, and I really don't want to describe any more as I am completely disappointed in what had just occurred.  

Currently, I am reassembling the Corsair to the best of my abilities.  To hide some of the damage, I went ahead and sprayed the entire Corsair with Testors Gloss Model Master Blue Angel Blue #1972 from a extra spray can I had from my original and first (F4U Corsair) comeback model kit of which was a Testors product.  I tried to bring it back in it's full glory in regards to the tri-color scheme of which is a Navy blue followed by a sky blue, and finally with white.   The damage was severe enough that the lighter colors could not mask the damage done.  I will leave it in this dark blue mono color, I know there are Corsairs that had just one color.  So out of desperation I will choose not to go with the tri-color scheme.

On another note, I decided I needed a break.  I went to Michaels (Another Hobby Center like Hobby lobby) and purchased a 1/48 Revel Corsair with my coupon of 50% off!  Wow!  That's better than Hobby Lobby.  I can now depict the Tamiya Corsair in extended wing configuration, the Revell kit will be built with folded wings.  

If there's one thing I've learned through my experiences, I know this is corny but; "Never cry over spilt milk", in this case a crashed up Corsair.  With a positive mind set, I am determined to complete this build with a professional attitude.  I see this as my phoenix.  A destroyed Corsair, only to arise from the ashes and be reborn once again.

I have some photos of the progress from last night.  I could not allow myself to see the Corsair in it's current status, so forgive me in that I have not taken a photo of the damaged Corsair.  

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:34 PM

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:07 PM

Really good way to bounce back! Let's hope the Warriors can!

Oh, right....

Anyhow, I think the paint job looks ok Toshi.

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Posted by patrick206 on Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:37 PM

Well, golly sakes, dagnabbit and shuckey darn, what an awful thing to happen to a good job done on a model. Can you sue the concrete slab maker? it's clearly his fault. You know Toshi, often after repairs some things aren't really all that bad, some times not all that noticeable. Finish it, enjoy having it and proudly display it.

The 1:48 Corsair is a fine kit, my preferred scale, much handier size. Hope to see you get started on this one soon. I enjoyed reading your families history, quite a large involvement in our national history. The famous musicians must hold a special place in your memory. and Senator Daniel was your uncle, eh? He sure contributed much to America.

Sorry about your drop, but if that's the worst thing that happens to you you'll be OK, I've done worse.

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:07 PM

Who knows GMorrison, maybe it will be the Warriors.  I could care less until football season, then it's all about Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, RGIII, and Russell Wilson.  If I have the time to photo my autograph rookie football cards you get to see my first hobby.

You Patrick are a very funny man.  I wish I could sue the concrete pour company.  LOL!  

Yes, I agree as I have the Corsair somewhat under control now.  I'll shoot you a photo here on this thread to bring everyone up to date.

Toshi

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Posted by roger_wilco on Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:26 PM

Toshi,I'm so sorry to hear this! I know how heart breaking it can be to be so far along in a project then disaster strikes. The Revell Corsair you picked up is a very nice kit as noted,and I think you'll enjoy it very much. I'm also enjoying reading about your family's rich history as well. Keep up the good work and know that your Fine Scale Modeler family is here for you...Douglas

"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want, and above all have fun!" - RIP Modeler Al. 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:01 PM

To roger_wilco,

Thank you for your concerns.  It was avery difficult day for me today, I am ever so much more determined to complete the Corsair.  I have below the repaired Corsair.

Thank you for watching my back,

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:25 PM

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:41 PM

Mrs. Toshi saw the mess the Corsair was in.  She also reprimanded me for staying up all night.  She said if I continue to do so, she will take away all my models. 

so I'm being a good boy for now.  Here are the photos promised.

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Posted by patrick206 on Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:33 PM

See, Toshi? It doesn't look bad at all, I see nothing but a well finished Corsair. Nice recovery and remember, the F-4 YOU was a tough old bird, you could always blame any dings and scratches on battle damage. Sometimes they came back from missions with some bruises.  

Keep on truckin'

Patrick

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 12, 2015 6:44 AM

Thanks Patrick206!  Believe it or not, Mrs. Toshi said to throw the Corsair away and she'll buy me another Tamiya 1/32 Corsair.  I told her; "No, I'm going to finish this kit".  

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 12, 2015 11:46 AM

Here is the current status to my 1/32 Tamiya F4U-1 Corsair.  After spending most of my day and night, I got the final damaged piece repaired at 4:30am.  Started my day at 8:20am, I went straight back to the Corsair, I knew it was time for detail and weathering.

1) Salt Weathering with Mortons Kosher salt.  I've found that this gives a better effect of chipping and weathering. 

2) Acrylic Model Master High Gloss #4638.

3) Light coat of acrylic Royal Talens Van Gogh burnt umber #409 it's actually made in the Netherlands.  I found this at the artist isle at Hobby Lobby.

4) Second coat of Acrylic Model Master High Gloss #4638.

As the gloss coat dries, I might start work on my Revell/Monogram F4U-4 Corsair.  I'll also assemble the Tamiya 1/32 Corsair's landing gear and other misc. items to bring the F4U-1 closer to home.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 12, 2015 1:09 PM

ACK, dropping a model blows! But looks like you've got things back under control.

And thanks, it's interesting to learn about your family and your life experiences - that's one heck of a story.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 12, 2015 1:23 PM

To Gamera,

Yes, that made my day extremely difficult.  So much so that in my anger, I was not going to let this break me.  

I always say that to learn whom a person is, it's always good to know where he/she came from.  Thank you for the read and reply.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 12, 2015 8:39 PM
Completion Status Update. Friday June 12, 2015 I have here a near completed build, of one of the hardest and difficult builds I've ever seen nor done. Dropping the Corsair on concrete on my patio made this project that much more difficult if not impossible. I spent most of the day repairing the F4U-1 and masking the broken and bent parts with a simple auto body shop mentality repair. What also help me in completing this project is that one of my clients from my past in-ground pool bussiness , Mrs. Barbara Bergstrom had built a replica P-51 Mustang. No not the kit, but an actual real life flying aircraft. She keeps telling me to meet her and she will take me up to fly in the Mustang. I'm not one who enjoys a ride in any aircraft including a replica of a Mustang. Mrs. Bergstrom was able to talk me through her mustang build in which I applied to the repair of my Corsair. Although it might look like my F4U-1 is completed there are many small items that need my attention. One of these issues is the cockpit glass, I need to weather my cockpit to match the rest of the body. It makes it look odd in my humble opinion. Overall the glass just affects the stance and quality of the F4U-1 build. It will be redone. Other than a few minor issues in which I can tackle and complete this project, I need to look for a space on my stand. This kit was a first for me, it not only provided and challenge patience, it also gave me time to introspect life in general. All this from styrene plastic. LOL! Here are some of the most recent pics!

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, June 12, 2015 8:43 PM

FYI:

Keep an eye out for my next build of which is a 1/48 Revell/Monogram F4U-4 Corsair.  Now I can display the Tamiya Corsair with extended wings and also build the Revell/Monogram F4U-4 with folded wings.  Thank you for your time.

Toshi

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:22 PM

Toshi I'm no oracle of wisdom, only experienced.

Your Corsair came out OK. It's actually kind of a disaster, but parts of it like the engine, cockpit and exterior paint job are good.

Think of lessons learned.

1) Don't drop your models. I know you have disabilities, but you know how to overcome them.

2) Yo gotta slow down man. There must be a metaphor in music. I would think it's kind of like when you tune out the outside world, listen to yourself and set your own pace.

3)Get into the 1/48 stuff.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:17 PM

To GMorrison,

1)  I'll have boundaries set up by Mrs. Toshi and I in what we call; "No Fall Zone".

2)  I'll do my best to slow down, I'm just having way too much fun doing this.  Building models is my way of forgetting about my handicaps, pain, and limited movement.  It takes me away from reality every now and then.  

3)  I actually prefer the 1/32 scale sets, as there is much more detail available then the 1/48 scale.  May I ask, why do the majority of aircraft model  builders prefer 1/48?  Thank you in advance.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:19 PM

By the way, thank you again for visiting my threads, your assistance is something I continually look forward to.

Toshi

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Posted by jetmaker on Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:39 PM

Wow! I just finally got time to check up on some of the builds going on here. Toshi, dude, you are KILLIN' it!!! A 1/32 Corsair already??!!! You are my hero, brother. I absolutely LOVE watching your builds - least of all because I get tons of great tips out of them hahaha! Your progress and enthusiasm is outstanding! And I really, really dig the glimpses you give into your history and personal life. You are one seriously charming and interesting cat!

I totally get what you're saying about detail and scale. I had intended to do 1/72 planes, but I changed that intent to 1/48 mostly because of the level of detail. I might try 1/32 someday, but that's just a little too much for me right now. At the rate I go, I would never get something that involved done. Plus, I like the miniature aspect a lot, which is why braille scale (1/72) appealed to me

I'm very impressed at how quickly you bounced back from dropping it. Honestly, the paint looks pretty darn good to me. The decaling looks great. And what really gets me is the salt weathering. I believe that's a pretty advanced technique, and you jumped right into it, on a 1/32 aircraft for your what? Fourth build or so? AND...it looks good! The plane itself may look a little beat up, but you can't say it doesn't look realistic. Those damaged/worn areas on the final product do not look fake or toyish at all. I'm really kind of astonished, and you've given me some confidence to try some things maybe a little sooner than what I had planned

God bless to you and the Mrs, my friend

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:44 PM

Good questions and good points.

I do 1/72. But here's what I know.

Pros of 1/32:

Putting aside the Revell kits of forty years ago (and a few of those are pretty good), most 1/32 kits are new. Designed to higher standards.

More detail.

Easier scale for us old guys and ladies.

Cons: if any; high cost. And pretty limited selection of subjects. Needs big display space.

Pros of 1/48:

Huge range of subjects. But 1/72 has that beat.

Nice big scale, but reasonable display space. Not as expensive.

Cons: smaller, finer, less detailed.

As far as the majority, I don't know. It probably used to be 1/72.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by patrick206 on Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:38 PM

Hi, Toshi -  You accomplished a great deal by salvaging the damaged Corsair, you can be rightly proud of the finished build.

A couple of points: If your comment about the canopy needing additional work relates to color, which looks like a lighter and brighter blue to me, I'm thinking it may be from the light that finds it's way through from the unpainted interior frames. After masking, I pre-paint the frames in black or whatever color the interior is, then paint the fuselage color over that. Looking at the inside of large scale models, will appear as if the canopy and windshield interior framework has an off color, if the interior color is not applied first..Plus the shade will appear off, as light is transferring through and lightening the outside color.

GMorrison has a very valid and useful point, 1:48th is a really nice scale to work with, also MUCH easier to display due to that smaller size. 1:32 is impressive due to it's shear size, but even the job of moving and handling them for cleaning/dusting creates a hazard and risk of damage. I have built them, but for years I have not built larger than 1:48, mostly I do 1:72, partly for the challenge, then for the convenient size in order to display them.

As an example, have a look at the 1:72 F-14 Tomcat in today's FSM, near this post. Very artfully done, a beauty to see. Next trip to HL pick up a 1:72 Airfix Zero or Spitfire and enjoy a quick build, just to see if you like the scale.

Lastly, I usually have a few builds in progress at the same time, it makes for a nice change to shift around a bit, plus it gives plenty of time for paint or glue joints to fully cure as you make your way through them. I hope you enjoy the 1:48 Corsair.

Patrick

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:59 PM

To jetmaker,

All I'm doing honestly, is to try and keep pace with veteran model makers like you and many other forum members.  In each build that I do, I'm adamant that at the very least, it's acceptable.  I will never display a sub par level product.  As long as I know that the current build has been a improvement over the last build, I will forge ahead to becoming a better scale model maker.  I've got a lot of catching up to do.  You are too kind jetmaker.  I know this is a model forum, but every now and then, as I get my memory back, I always find that as I share with you some of my families experiences, I'm that much closer to you and others like you.  It's the human touch as I like to call it.  We are all brothers and sisters trying to do our best.  

As for model scales, I jump right into a build without thinking, 1/32, 1/48, 1/72 etc. to me it's all relevant.  I admit it's due to my ignorance.  It's like a child learning how to walk for the first time.  I know I want to walk, I just don't grasp what's ahead of me.  My whole life is based on this precept, I learned this philosophical theory from a great Jedi Master!  "Do, or do not.  Try, and you have failed".  

There are times that it gets me in trouble, the pros far outweighs the cons, but now at my age, I don't let things get at me, because it's all good.  My first build was a P-61 Black Widow.  I purchased every single aftermarket product to dedicate on the Widow.  That got me hooked, the intense detailing needed to build a model was breath taking.  I love what Tamiya has given to builders in that of the 1/32 scale series, all or almost all considered after market products are already included with each kit.  Sure, it's not cheap, but who ever heard of a cheap hobby.  Lol!!!  I'm a devout zealot for Tamiyas 1/32, great builds, fantastic fit and finish, super detailed kits, out of this world decals, and PE!  Wow!  Say that 10 times while rubbing your tummy standing on one leg.  LOLLOL!!  If something goes wrong, I know immediately, it's my fault and not Tamiya's.

Mrs. Toshi said; "What do I want for Father's Day".  I would like to challenge myself and get either a Tamiya 1/32 scale Zero, or Tamiya 1/32 scale Supermarine Spitfire.  Once I build these last two propeller driven aircraft, I know that the rest of the kits in this series are all modern fighter jets.  That's when I'll turn my attention to Hasegawa's product line in that of WWII aircraft.

As for my 1/32 Corsair, I am astonished that I actually took it that far after the drop.  Mrs. Toshi and I both agree that the Corsair is a marked improvement over the Mustang.  I can't say how much, time and time again, that my inspiration comes from you all.  Jetmaker, thank you for reading and replying to my Corsair thread, you don't know how much it means to me.  The support system at FSM forum is out of this world.  

God bless you Jetmaker and family,

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:08 PM

Thank you GMorrison.  The information given to me is priceless.  Now I can see why 1/48 and 1/72 are such popular scales.  Again, this is my humble opinion, I am just blown away by the detailing available in a 1/32 kit.  There is a financial cost to do this but, in my experience, nothing good ever comes without a little determination and discipline and sacrifice.  Thank you so much for your time and patience in me.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:16 PM

To Patrick206,

Thank you so much for your input and explanation, it now makes a lot of sense to me.  I seriously will purchase more 1/48 scale Revell/Monogram or other companies product of WWII aircraft builds if anything, just to get more experience in the actual build.

Your comment in that having one or more builds going on at the same time sounds like a good plan, just to break things up.  You know I'm for that!  LOL!

Thank you for everything,

Toshi

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Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:38 PM

Toshi, great recovery. A+ for what I call stick-to-it-ive-ness.

And BTW, I suspect if you start building more than one at time, Mrs. Toshi will disown you and all of us too. Tread carefully, sir.

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 13, 2015 6:43 PM

To Greg,

Thank you sir, Mrs Toshi said it's because I'm old and stubborn!  LOL!  I think I would drive even my cats crazy if I started to do more than one build at a time.  I still want to build the high end 1/32 scale stuff as I have great passion for that genre, especially after my P-51 Mustang build.  I can see the positive progression in building the 1/48 or 1/72 scale models.  Now tomorrow I can browse around and see what might interest me.  Thank you for the read and reply!

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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