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1/48 Meng P-51 D Mustang 352 FG John C. Meyer "Petie 2nd" (FINISHED)

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    July 2016
Posted by PeteHVNY on Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:49 AM

Incredible build! I'm starting mine now. Just getting through the cockpit. I agree, the snap fit has its advantages but the necessary low tolerances make things very tight.  Have to use quite a bit of force for some delicate pieces. Broke a couple of things already.  Using glue quite a bit  

One question.  How did you get that (annoyingly seamed) canopy to sit down in the open position? I read this was a problem.  Thanks. 

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:04 AM

Chip

Lawdog,

 

I had a general question about how you use the Alclad in these builds.  Do you add a protection layer to seal the paint prior to adding the decals?

 

 

 

Thanks everyone.  You're all very kind.  Chip, you can decal right over the Alclad.  It's plenty smooth enough.  I usually hit the decaled areas with clear gloss before a wash though to seal them.  It prevents wash fron seeping under the decals.  Good Luck.  The Tamiya is a great kit     

 

Lee, your welcome...enjoy!

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Walton, KY
Posted by nanookAK on Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:40 PM

Thank you very I very much for Sharon by your build and the totally up-front and informed thoughts regarding both the kit and the instructions/building steps. Very handy to know. Like you I believe that my Hasegawa and Tamiya kits are very safe and secure from being sold off. Eventually I think I want to get a MENG Mustang but will hold out for a cheap one or even a started kit.

Very nice job your finish is superlative. 

Later,

Lee

P.S. Thank you again for the decals!

Tags: Mustang , Meng

"Even Stalin has an Airfix Spitfire Mk.IX!!!" Der Fuhrer

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  • From: Tumwater, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:02 PM

Y'know, I don't think I'll ever buy this kit due to your experiences with the glue less feature of it. :/

That being said, I must say that you've made a most stunning model with it regardless! 

Even knowing what troubles you had, the finish you achieved would convince me have a go at the kit anyways.

Superb finish And exemplary skills. Well done!!  :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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    April 2016
  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:41 AM

Again, I'm always astounded by the final pictures. I always follow along on your methods but I always say Wow! at the finish.

I want to be a model builder like you when I grow up. LOL! Oops, I think it's too late!

Thumbs up here!

Max

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Posted by blackdog62 on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:55 PM

Wow great looking build apsalutly great looking.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:48 AM

Oh My ;

 Now you went and done it . P-51 indeed .Wowsa ! ! T.B. 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:27 AM

As usual she looks fantastic Joe, I can't see the problems you encountered in the finished product. I've seen that kit for sale but think I'll stick with the Tamiya and Hasegawa versions I have in the stash (unless of course Airfix or Eduard do hit it outta the park, then I might be tempted to pick up another P-51.....)

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by 7474 on Sunday, March 5, 2017 11:28 PM
I have to say you did an amazing job and you've inspired me to do a P-51
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Posted by Chip on Sunday, March 5, 2017 4:58 PM

Lawdog,

Your work is stunning!  I am going to attempt the Tamiya version of this build using the tutorial you outlined a few years ago as a template though I'm using the OOB pit.

This will be the first time I have ever used Alclad so we will see how it goes.  I had a general question about how you use the Alclad in these builds.  Do you add a protection layer to seal the paint prior to adding the decals?

Thanks you again for sharing your builds.

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Posted by SaltydogII on Saturday, March 4, 2017 11:32 PM
Very nice build of one of my favorites! Heck of a job lawdog!

Chris

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    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, March 4, 2017 5:03 PM

Beautiful Mustang, Joe. Never know you had troubles.

This is the first time I've seen a blue nose P-51, and I love it. Absolutely love it.

I want to build one now. Thanks, buddy.

Probably not this kit though. A nice Tamiya sounds good, if I knew which one.

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    August 2013
Posted by Jay Jay on Saturday, March 4, 2017 9:42 AM

lawdog114

 

 
1943Mike

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

 

 

 

Thanks man.  Award winning? Ha! good one!  I'm nowhere near that level, average at best.    

 

lawdog114

 

 
1943Mike

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

 

 

 

Thanks man.  Award winning? Ha! good one!  I'm nowhere near that level, average at best.    

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

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    February 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, March 3, 2017 10:06 PM

silentbob33
That looks really good Lawdog! When you started this WIP I got pretty excited about this kit and started looking into it and my excitement started to wane when you started mentioning all of the issues you were running into. I think I'll wait and look more into the Airfix kit when it comes out.
 

Glad I could help.  I hate to turn anyone off on the kit.  These were just my issues.  Others may have better results.  By all means give it a whirl if you can find it cheap.  I do look forward to the Airfix and Eduard kits though...

 

......and thanks for all the kind words all. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, March 3, 2017 10:05 PM
Another beauty. Glad to hear it don't have to trade off my Tamiya and Hasegawa kits also

 

  • Member since
    February 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, March 3, 2017 9:44 PM

1943Mike

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

 

Thanks man.  Award winning? Ha! good one!  I'm nowhere near that level, average at best.    

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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    April 2015
Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:47 PM

Fantastic build!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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  • From: A Galaxy Far, Far Away
Posted by Hunter on Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:04 PM

Outstanding Joe, Outstanding....really like the base also.

 

Hunter 

      

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    February 2014
  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, March 1, 2017 5:01 PM
That looks really good Lawdog! When you started this WIP I got pretty excited about this kit and started looking into it and my excitement started to wane when you started mentioning all of the issues you were running into. I think I'll wait and look more into the Airfix kit when it comes out.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:29 PM

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

I'm still trying to figure out how to mask my model for airbrushing a tri-color scheme .. Embarrassed. Oh well, another 5 or 10 kits down the road and mayber I'll figure it out.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:06 PM

Man, that's a sharp build! I understand the frustration; Academy's 1.72 Phantom didn't know what it wanted to be, a snap fit with great detail or a glue kit with huge attachment points. For the price, it wasn't great at either.

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:24 PM

hi Joe -  despite the problems, she looks killer!  Yes

regards,

Jack

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    January 2015
Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:17 AM

Well, she looks simply fantastic, despite the woes you described. I think I ordered mine the day before seeing some of theissues you ran into, and it arrived yesterday. I agree about the seam on the canopy, but I'm pretty sure it's a byproduct of the slide molding process. I'm thinking it's required to get the detail on the sides, but I know others have done this before without slide molding, so I'm not sure what Meng is trying to achieve. Shape issue? I notice this is common on jets. Even the Tamiya F-14A has it, which was shocking to me. I'll use my Mustang as a guinea pig for taking care of the seam.

I agree with you on the landing gear assembly. No idea why they would make you put them in before, and yeah, I hadn't thought about the AM tires issue, but that may be corrected. Tamiya's F-14 has triangular mounting pieces for the tires to the gear struts, and some AM companies have made products to fit. So maybe.

In any event, I am looking forward to the duard Mustangs. I think when they come out, they will be the definitive ones in the scale, if their Spitfires and 109s are anything to go by. Airfix, I am not so sure. I love the fact that Airfix is giving us the option to have the tail fillet or not, which I think is a first in this scale. Surely with modern kits. But while I am a big fan of their P-40B and Hurricane, I do think the plastic and panel line moldings would be more difficult to achieve a good natural metal finish with. That said, in 1/72, I really liked their Mustang.

Again, great job on this. I love these markings, and if I were to hazard a guess, Eduard will give us Petie 3rd, and I'm hoping some other iconic ones like Big Beautiful Doll, something from the Pacific, a Tuskegee bird and some obscure ones.

-BD-

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    September 2014
Posted by rooster513 on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:36 AM

Despite your problems it turned out really nice Joe. I appreciate the "review" and it makes me rethink getting one of these. Think I'll wait for the Eduard mustang. Thanks for sharing!

-Andy

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    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:06 AM

Another great build to add to your collection.  You never cease to amaze me!

Toshi

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:55 AM

Thanks all, hopefully the following will answer questions.  I'm gonna call her done.  It's in the 352nd FG 487th FS markings of "Petie 2nd", flown in the Fall of 1944 by John C. Meyer.  He was the 4th highest American ace in Europe with 24 kills.  He's also fairly well known for shooting down an Fw190 during Operation Bodenplatte while he was taking off and retracting his landing gear.  His actions that day earned him the Distinguished Flying Cross.

The kit?  Ok..here's my objective take.  What I liked:

*  In surface detail, it's ahead of Tamiya.  It's simply stunning and right up there with the best in any scale. 

*  I liked the design of the windscreen area. No sanding the bottom of the windscreen "curve" to make it sit in the pocket.  The instrument panel coaming is one piece too...very nice.      

*  I  liked the design of the lower radiator area with no nasty seams that run right through the detail. The Tamiya kit is a choir in this area.  

*  I liked the separate control surfaces.  

*  I liked the one piece prop and hub.  They look great.  There's even rivets in the hub!  

*  Hollowed exhaust...very nice! No need to try and drill these out.  

Now for what I hated:

*  I'm no expert, but it seems underscale.  It's especially noticeable in the exhaust pieces, which are tiny.  

*  It needs glue......lots (at least I did Dunce)

*  The landing gear installation.  I ended up breaking one of them (mentioned earlier) and then in final assembly, I discovered I installed them backwards.  I had to chop them both off and glue them in correctly......Angry

*  The canopy bubble has a seam down the middle.  There was no way I was gonna try to sand it out.  Unacceptable for a kit of this price   

*  No way to use aftermarket tires due to the inner wheel hub being incorporated into the landing gear.   

*  I found some parts fit to be poor and filler was needed...often.  

*  The machine gun inserts were great in theory but would not snap in as designed on my kit.  I needed superglue to force them in.

*  The windscreen was great in design but refused to snap in for me.  I had to trim some plastic and force it in.   

My verdict?  I found this kit to be a frustrating experience, especially for something that wasn't even supposed to require glue.  I thought I was gonna have a Mustang that built itself.  Perhaps some of it may have been my own doing, but I did follow the instructions pretty much to the letter, as it's necessary for build sequence of its snap-tite nature. 

So I wasn't particularly impressed with this kit, especially for the price.  It's safe to say my huge Tamiya and Hasegawa stash will be staying put. I do however look forward to the new Airfix and Eduard kits which are sure to be stunning.  Wanna bet one of those get Petie 3rd markings?  

That's enough of that....here's the finished plane.  Thanks for following.  

         

 

  

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hunter on Saturday, February 25, 2017 1:36 PM

Joe - 

Outstanding build Sir....the thing I like best about your WiP's is not only the strong attention to every detail....but the things I learn from them. Wonderful job Joe.

Hunter 

      

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:13 AM

Interesting WIP, Joe. Too bad about your various frustrations but as always you have perservered and you almost got 'er now.

Funny you mentioned the curvey mask at the nose. First thing I noticed and worried about long before you painted yours. I'd never seen a blue nose P-51 before, now I gotta make one. Looks so cool.

Hope you do a WIP on that Corsair. Pleeeeaaaase??

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    February 2014
  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:36 AM
Looking at it, I can't tell you're having all the issues. You're doing a great job on it

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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