BrandonD

Oh, one thing I have heard about the Meng kit (and I'm sure you're aware of) is that the canopy in the open position is inaccurate. I read that due to the way Meng made it posable, it doesn't dip down in the rear when open, like the real onedid.

Not having built it, I can't comment on that, but something to watch for.

-BD-

 

Thanks.....worst case I'll do surgery to make it sit right.

nanookAK

The Hasegawa kit's only real 'flaw' IMHO is the super-shallow wheel wells. Both kits did not replicate the wheel well properly though so that can be laid at both kits' feet. For me personally, I'm not wound up about the wheel wells...in all seriousness how often are our built kits viewed from below? I appreciate getting it right but sometimes it seems a bit overboard.

Later,

Lee

 

Thanks Toshi and Lee.  Indeed the Hasegawa kit is still nice as I have a few in the stash.  I agree about the LG bay, no biggie to me.  You could always close the inner doors, which would be believable since the flaps are molded closed.  You could argue there was still hydraulic pressure.  

Another annoyance with the Hase version is how the top engine cowl is a seam, so you have to sand and scribe the center line, then add the fasteners with a pin vise.  I like Tamiya's one piece insert here.  Personally, I think it's a step below Tamiya in regard to surface detail too.  I do however prefer Hasegawa's one piece bubble canopy which I usually drop onto my Tamiya kits sincecI display my cockpits open.  The Tamiya two piece abomination is utter garbage.    

I can't wait to see what Airfix and Eduard do with this subject.

Well, you've inspired me, and my kit is in the post...

You're bad for my wallet, lawdog. :)

-BD-

BrandonD

Well, you've inspired me, and my kit is in the post...

You're bad for my wallet, lawdog. :)

-BD-

 

Sorry Bro...

I'm finally in the home stretch.  My struggle with this turkey continues.  I taped off the windscreen and tried to add it for easy of painting the blue nose which encroaches onto it,  Unfortunately I couldn't get it to click in and under pressure I accidentally broke the starboard gear.  The fact that I added wire brake lines saved it from disappearing completely....absolute dumb design.  I walked away for a bit then returned later.  After some trimming I got it pressed in there.  Of course there was a small gap as with everything else so far but at this point I'm past caring.    

On to painting.  The Eagle Cal sheet showed that at one point Petie 2nd had two black belly bands that were apparently wider than normal invasion stripes.  They had a photo included to confirm this.  I decided to paint these in accordingly.  I notice that most folks who build this scheme don't add these so I wanted to be different.  

Then came that blue nose.  I used XF-8 Flat Blue with a touch of XF-4 Yellow Green.  I added some XF-2 Flat White and I think I got it close.  Alot of people stess over taping off the Bodney nose.  I found it to be fairly easy with Tamiya tape which curves well when sliced thin.  Once complete, I sprayed the blue with Alclad Clear Gloss.  

The Eagle Cal decals behaved wonderfully.  Finally something went right.  

I added a Flory wash which really brings out the detail on this kit.   I then started adding the other bits and pieces.  Of course I almost broke off all the landing gears trying to press on the tires.  So far nothing HASN'T require glue.  

I'm planning on a dusting of Dullcoat, Some postshade weathering, then addition of the canopy and it will be done...... 

Great job with the Alclad. And that blue has come out really nice, will have to remember that mix and try it.

I have a couple of Bodney Mustang decal sets which make referance to the differant shades of blue used on differant aircraft. But i can't recall off the top of my head which colours they suggest.

Your build is amazing lawdog114.

Toshi

Very cool so far Joe. Hang in there! =] Would you place this build over the Tamiya yet??  I'm personally feeling not convinced yet.

Interesting WIP, Joe. Too bad about your various frustrations but as always you have perservered and you almost got 'er now.

Funny you mentioned the curvey mask at the nose. First thing I noticed and worried about long before you painted yours. I'd never seen a blue nose P-51 before, now I gotta make one. Looks so cool.

Hope you do a WIP on that Corsair. Pleeeeaaaase??

Joe - 

Outstanding build Sir....the thing I like best about your WiP's is not only the strong attention to every detail....but the things I learn from them. Wonderful job Joe.

Thanks all, hopefully the following will answer questions.  I'm gonna call her done.  It's in the 352nd FG 487th FS markings of "Petie 2nd", flown in the Fall of 1944 by John C. Meyer.  He was the 4th highest American ace in Europe with 24 kills.  He's also fairly well known for shooting down an Fw190 during Operation Bodenplatte while he was taking off and retracting his landing gear.  His actions that day earned him the Distinguished Flying Cross.

The kit?  Ok..here's my objective take.  What I liked:

*  In surface detail, it's ahead of Tamiya.  It's simply stunning and right up there with the best in any scale. 

*  I liked the design of the windscreen area. No sanding the bottom of the windscreen "curve" to make it sit in the pocket.  The instrument panel coaming is one piece too...very nice.      

*  I  liked the design of the lower radiator area with no nasty seams that run right through the detail. The Tamiya kit is a choir in this area.  

*  I liked the separate control surfaces.  

*  I liked the one piece prop and hub.  They look great.  There's even rivets in the hub!  

*  Hollowed exhaust...very nice! No need to try and drill these out.  

Now for what I hated:

*  I'm no expert, but it seems underscale.  It's especially noticeable in the exhaust pieces, which are tiny.  

*  It needs glue......lots (at least I did )

*  The landing gear installation.  I ended up breaking one of them (mentioned earlier) and then in final assembly, I discovered I installed them backwards.  I had to chop them both off and glue them in correctly......

*  The canopy bubble has a seam down the middle.  There was no way I was gonna try to sand it out.  Unacceptable for a kit of this price   

*  No way to use aftermarket tires due to the inner wheel hub being incorporated into the landing gear.   

*  I found some parts fit to be poor and filler was needed...often.  

*  The machine gun inserts were great in theory but would not snap in as designed on my kit.  I needed superglue to force them in.

*  The windscreen was great in design but refused to snap in for me.  I had to trim some plastic and force it in.   

My verdict?  I found this kit to be a frustrating experience, especially for something that wasn't even supposed to require glue.  I thought I was gonna have a Mustang that built itself.  Perhaps some of it may have been my own doing, but I did follow the instructions pretty much to the letter, as it's necessary for build sequence of its snap-tite nature. 

So I wasn't particularly impressed with this kit, especially for the price.  It's safe to say my huge Tamiya and Hasegawa stash will be staying put. I do however look forward to the new Airfix and Eduard kits which are sure to be stunning.  Wanna bet one of those get Petie 3rd markings?  

That's enough of that....here's the finished plane.  Thanks for following.  

Another great build to add to your collection.  You never cease to amaze me!

Toshi

Despite your problems it turned out really nice Joe. I appreciate the "review" and it makes me rethink getting one of these. Think I'll wait for the Eduard mustang. Thanks for sharing!

Well, she looks simply fantastic, despite the woes you described. I think I ordered mine the day before seeing some of theissues you ran into, and it arrived yesterday. I agree about the seam on the canopy, but I'm pretty sure it's a byproduct of the slide molding process. I'm thinking it's required to get the detail on the sides, but I know others have done this before without slide molding, so I'm not sure what Meng is trying to achieve. Shape issue? I notice this is common on jets. Even the Tamiya F-14A has it, which was shocking to me. I'll use my Mustang as a guinea pig for taking care of the seam.

I agree with you on the landing gear assembly. No idea why they would make you put them in before, and yeah, I hadn't thought about the AM tires issue, but that may be corrected. Tamiya's F-14 has triangular mounting pieces for the tires to the gear struts, and some AM companies have made products to fit. So maybe.

In any event, I am looking forward to the duard Mustangs. I think when they come out, they will be the definitive ones in the scale, if their Spitfires and 109s are anything to go by. Airfix, I am not so sure. I love the fact that Airfix is giving us the option to have the tail fillet or not, which I think is a first in this scale. Surely with modern kits. But while I am a big fan of their P-40B and Hurricane, I do think the plastic and panel line moldings would be more difficult to achieve a good natural metal finish with. That said, in 1/72, I really liked their Mustang.

Again, great job on this. I love these markings, and if I were to hazard a guess, Eduard will give us Petie 3rd, and I'm hoping some other iconic ones like Big Beautiful Doll, something from the Pacific, a Tuskegee bird and some obscure ones.

-BD-

hi Joe -  despite the problems, she looks killer! 

regards,

Jack

Man, that's a sharp build! I understand the frustration; Academy's 1.72 Phantom didn't know what it wanted to be, a snap fit with great detail or a glue kit with huge attachment points. For the price, it wasn't great at either.

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

I'm still trying to figure out how to mask my model for airbrushing a tri-color scheme .. . Oh well, another 5 or 10 kits down the road and mayber I'll figure it out.

Outstanding Joe, Outstanding....really like the base also.

Fantastic build!

1943Mike

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

Thanks man.  Award winning? Ha! good one!  I'm nowhere near that level, average at best.    

silentbob33

That looks really good Lawdog! When you started this WIP I got pretty excited about this kit and started looking into it and my excitement started to wane when you started mentioning all of the issues you were running into. I think I'll wait and look more into the Airfix kit when it comes out.

 

Glad I could help.  I hate to turn anyone off on the kit.  These were just my issues.  Others may have better results.  By all means give it a whirl if you can find it cheap.  I do look forward to the Airfix and Eduard kits though...

......and thanks for all the kind words all. 

lawdog114

 

 

1943Mike

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

 

 

 

 

Thanks man.  Award winning? Ha! good one!  I'm nowhere near that level, average at best.    

 

lawdog114

 

 

1943Mike

Just an outstanding build. I'm always marveling at the way you guys call out the faults in a kit and then show how you overcame the problems and present an award winning model.

 

 You're far too humble Lawdog. I constantly aspire to bring my limited skills up to your level of expertise....Hmmph, I'm 68 years old,I should live so long.

 

 

Thanks man.  Award winning? Ha! good one!  I'm nowhere near that level, average at best.    

 

Beautiful Mustang, Joe. Never know you had troubles.

This is the first time I've seen a blue nose P-51, and I love it. Absolutely love it.

I want to build one now. Thanks, buddy.

Probably not this kit though. A nice Tamiya sounds good, if I knew which one.

Lawdog,

Your work is stunning!  I am going to attempt the Tamiya version of this build using the tutorial you outlined a few years ago as a template though I'm using the OOB pit.

This will be the first time I have ever used Alclad so we will see how it goes.  I had a general question about how you use the Alclad in these builds.  Do you add a protection layer to seal the paint prior to adding the decals?

Thanks you again for sharing your builds.

As usual she looks fantastic Joe, I can't see the problems you encountered in the finished product. I've seen that kit for sale but think I'll stick with the Tamiya and Hasegawa versions I have in the stash (unless of course Airfix or Eduard do hit it outta the park, then I might be tempted to pick up another P-51.....)

Oh My ;

 Now you went and done it . P-51 indeed .Wowsa ! ! T.B.