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Zoukei-Mura F4J Phantom II 1:48 (WIP)....a couple of WIP boo-boos

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:23 PM

How did I miss this?  Looking good Greg.  I understand these kits a really nice.  I've never built one.  How are you liking it?

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:14 PM

So sorry about the late reply above, thanks for your patience.

I think I have the cockpit PE pretty much done, time for some detail painting and assembly.

Here's the current state of the office. Little pieces parts. The toothpick with the poster tac on the end is my PE picker-upper and put in place tool thingie.

A closer look at some of the PE. It took a lot to get motivated, but once I got going it was fun to be snipping away at a PE fret again. I love my Tamiya PE scissors, what a time saver from how I used to remove PE parts from the frets.

The Eduard panel color is too blue as usual. Out of the countless bottles of paint I have, never did find anything that matched too well. Once everything is put in place and the fuselage halves go together, never seems to make much difference. We shall see if that holds true here.

This is the back-seaters toys, I like the panel so I took a closer shot. I can't believe how close I can get with this phone camera, it's making me lazy (ier)

Painted PE sure looks funny close up, at least in this scale. I've always wondered if any of the other brands are better resolution?

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:00 PM

Real G
the F-4 has 20 tons of personality that simply has no peer.

As I study the aircraft, I am starting to understand, G.

Est.1961

That made for good reading Greg, look forward to seeing what other interesting techniques you pull out of the bag during this WIP. 

Thanks for your kind words, 1961. I think that will make two of us who will be interested to see what happens, as I said, I'm pretty much clueless. Smile

Hoss WA

Looking great so far. 

 

Thanks for hanging in there with me, Hoss. Yes

plasticjunkie

Hey Greg you have one heck of a Phantastic Phabulous looking Phantom there.

I must say you have the hands of a surgeon with that masking on the pull rings. I have tried that before and luckully I have no hair on my head to pull while attempting it so no hair loss here. Your pull rings look great!

What I usually do is either cheat by getting the Eduard set that has a bunch of them or use thin wire painted yellow and masked as you did and painted black. I then can carefully bend the wire to shape and easily retouch any paint that may have chipped off in the handling process.

 

Thanks Ernie. I have my eye on that Eduard PE set for future 1/48 builds. Thanks for the techique tips!

Gamera

Greg: Those ejection seat handles look just right. Good luck with the instrument panel! 

 

Thanks, Cliff! Hopefull some instrument panel progress pics follow....

hogfanfs

Greg,

I'm really looking forward to seeing your progress in this F-4! This is one of my "to get" kits, and I'm very interested in seeing how well it goes together. And great job on the ejection handles, need to add this one to my techniques!

 

Hey Bruce, it's great to have you here. Thanks for your kind words on the handles.

RadMax8

Greg, I just wanted to drop in and say nice work so far! I don't have a whole lot in the stash right now with bang seats, but I will try to file your tip (borrowed as it may be) for when I do. There's only a couple jets I like, F-86, F-14, F-4, and the B-1. So, I'm definitely going to enjoy watching your progress!

 

Hey RadMax. I see you have been here for a long time. It's quite an honor to have you following along. Thanks for being here and for your kind words.

Everyone,

If I don't get distracted, a minor update follows. Please stay tuned..........

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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:53 PM

Greg, I just wanted to drop in and say nice work so far! I don't have a whole lot in the stash right now with bang seats, but I will try to file your tip (borrowed as it may be) for when I do. There's only a couple jets I like, F-86, F-14, F-4, and the B-1. So, I'm definitely going to enjoy watching your progress!

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, April 24, 2020 7:44 AM

Greg,

I'm really looking forward to seeing your progress in this F-4! This is one of my "to get" kits, and I'm very interested in seeing how well it goes together. And great job on the ejection handles, need to add this one to my techniques!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 20, 2020 12:21 PM

Greg: Those ejection seat handles look just right. Good luck with the instrument panel! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, April 19, 2020 8:53 AM

Hey Greg you have one heck of a Phantastic Phabulous looking Phantom there.

I must say you have the hands of a surgeon with that masking on the pull rings. I have tried that before and luckully I have no hair on my head to pull while attempting it so no hair loss here. Your pull rings look great!

What I usually do is either cheat by getting the Eduard set that has a bunch of them or use thin wire painted yellow and masked as you did and painted black. I then can carefully bend the wire to shape and easily retouch any paint that may have chipped off in the handling process.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:58 PM

Looking great so far. 

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:57 PM

I looked at the Z. Phantom when it came out and passed on it.  Will be watching this come together in your hands.

 

My first close up look at one was at Udorn.  Looked down the gattling gun on an E from the shop truck.  Instant case of love at first sight.  

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Posted by Est.1961 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:45 PM

That made for good reading Greg, look forward to seeing what other interesting techniques you pull out of the bag during this WIP. 

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:01 PM

My first sight of a real Phantom was when the Blue Angels came to Hawaii in the early 1970s.  They obviously didn’t do much aerobatics, but the noise and smoke from four pairs of J79s flying in a diamond formation made quite an impression on me!

The F-15 is a more capable fighter, and the F-16 is certainly prettier, but the F-4 has 20 tons of personality that simply has no peer.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:08 PM

Real G

That’s a neat trick to paint the pull rings.  I am going to try a variation meant for less patient modelers like myself.  It might save a lot of effort for the 1/72 modelers.  Will try it out and post piccies.

Good luck on your Phantom!  Such a phenomenal, phabulous, phantastic beast!  My favorite US jet fighter since childhood.

Thanks G! I would enjoy seeing what you come up in 1/72 scale. I say again, I don't know how you folks do what you do in 1/72. You amaze me.

And thanks for the well wishes. I must admit this is my first Phantom, and I'm embarrassed to admit I've never paid much attention the the aircraft. I already very smitten with the airframe, I think I'm quickly coming to understand where you are coming from.

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:01 PM

Minor update:

Doing some painting and prep on the cockpit.

Started smoothing out some panel surfaces for PE today. This is the first time I've ever felt guilty removing surface detail. The ZM panel details are the best I've seen yet in 1/48th.

 

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:00 PM

That’s a neat trick to paint the pull rings.  I am going to try a variation meant for less patient modelers like myself.  It might save a lot of effort for the 1/72 modelers.  Will try it out and post piccies.

Good luck on your Phantom!  Such a phenomenal, phabulous, phantastic beast!  My favorite US jet fighter since childhood.

 

 

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:55 PM

waikong
Hey, beautiful job on masking those. Way more patience then I have, but I should learn from you.
 

You sir are too kind. Thank you, but I wonder is it patience or Covid restlessness?

 

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:51 PM

Mopar Madness

What an excellent idea for making/painting those handles!

 

Thanks for stopping in, Chad!

I think I should give credit to the source where I borrowed the idea. He did it differently, and in 1/32nd scale, but I got the idea here.

Thanks Luc, wherever you are. Bow Down

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Posted by waikong on Friday, April 17, 2020 2:43 PM
Hey, beautiful job on masking those. Way more patience then I have, but I should learn from you.
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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:02 PM

What an excellent idea for making/painting those handles!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:43 PM

snapdragonxxx
Well done on the masking tape, Greg. Welcome to the wonderful world of Zoukei-Mura. I am waiting for them to upgrade the Phantoms to 1/32.

Thanks Snapdragon, and also thanks for the welcome to the Zoukei-Mura world. I've only just begun, but so far I surely do like the quality, detail, and fit.

I am a such a sucker for modeling tools and supplies. .4mm? If my math is right, that's .0015" (15 thousandths)? Wow, that's skinny! I think I will have to buy a roll of it, and the next wider size just to have it!

Sorry to have left you two hanging for a few days, I sort of lost track of my own thread.

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:38 PM

mrmike

Good to see you back and building a very interesting kit. I like your patient, steady build style and look forward to your posts. Happy modelling!

 

Thanks Mike! I do like the way you make being a slow poke sound like a virture. Big Smile

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Sunday, April 12, 2020 5:26 PM

Well done on the masking tape, Greg.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Zoukei-Mura. I am waiting for them to upgrade the Phantoms to 1/32.

About the masking tape. Maybe this would have been better...

https://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/product/0-4mm-x-8m-micron-masking-tape-aizu-2001-1

https://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/product/0-4mm-x-8m-micron-masking-tape-aizu-2001-1

Comes in six sizes on rolls of either 5m or 8m - 0.4mm, 0.7mm, 1.0mm, 1.5mm, 2.0mm and 2.5mm.

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Posted by mrmike on Sunday, April 12, 2020 2:35 PM

Good to see you back and building a very interesting kit. I like your patient, steady build style and look forward to your posts. Happy modelling!

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 12, 2020 2:24 PM

Hey Tojo,

I've done 2 WIP's here, but have mostly participated in GB's.

This will be my first Phantom.

Tojo72
That’s a lot of effort for those handles !!!

It sure was. That's why I'm so slow!

Hi Nick,

I'd sure enjoy having you follow along.

I ordered my kit from Sprue Bros just a couple weeks ago, and I see they are backordered now. A couple other places I checked too, so I guess you're right. Some of the other variants by Zouke-Mura do seem to be available, though.

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Sunday, April 12, 2020 10:24 AM

Hey nice kit I'll be most interested in this. Those kits are on back order still waiting for a few.

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, April 12, 2020 10:16 AM
Hey Greg, I don’t recall you doing an WIP before,looking forward to it.I have not done a Phantom for 20 years when I did a couple of the great Hasegawa birds,definitely want to get to one of these. That’s a lot of effort for those handles !!!

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:38 AM

Joe, thanks for your kind words. It would be great to have you following along, that's for sure.

Patrick, thank you for stopping by and if you kept an eye on my antics here, I'd sure appreciate it.

Please do stay in touch and I hope any news you might be getting about your grand niece is good news.

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Posted by patrick206 on Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:21 AM

Hi, Greg - Mighty clever job of the handle masking, looks really good. I saw one of these kits finished by a very talented builder, on display at my LHS. It was described as a fine kit with all around good fit, I'm sure you'll do it justice, I will be following this for sure.

Patrick

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:45 AM

First off, let me start by saying how wonderful and refreshing it is to see you back at the bench again. It has been far too long for you to have been keeping your righteous talents from the forums. I am just happy beyond belief.Big Smile

Now, what a way to get back at it. The ZM F-4 should be a grand one to watch. Excellent choice. I've often considered picking up a ZM kit so it will be nice to see you build one and get your input as you go. You can guarantee I'll be following along all the way.

Superb effort on the handles. Brilliant technique that produced outstanding results. Nice bit of patience to boot. Well done.

Lastly, Check your PM my friend. Been waiting to hear back from you and catch up.Confused

Cheers, Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:52 AM

So now I can stop fussing temporarily and move forward with the rest of the cockpit.

I'm usually a paint then assemble person, for some reason I decided to put the ejection seat together (minus the pull handles), prime then dark grey and paint them as you experts would do with your fancy resin AM seats.

So here is the starting point. Now I have to stop boring you all and go paint stuff. Hand painting is not one of my strong points. Wish me luck.

I tend to spend too much time on cockpits. I enjoy working on them.

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:43 AM

Nathan! What a treat to hear from you, it's been way too long.

I sure appreciate your dropping in, and I think it is so cool you are building Hasegawa Phantoms with your daughter. If that isn't worth a couple thumbs up, I don't know what is! YesYes

I didn't realize the Japanese flew Phantoms, I looked it up and thanks for the mini-history lesson. I want to build something with Japanese markings one day too.

I'm sure your hand painted handles look just fine. As I said, I enjoy driving myself crazy, I guess.

Stik, I'm so glad to have you here. Thanks a lot, and for your kind comments as well.

You are certainly welcome, and again, not my original idea but sounds like it was worthy of passing along. (note that the post is for my reference too, next time I build a fighter I'll forget how I did this so if I can find this thread and Google Photos hasn't pulled a Photobucket, I'll be all set) :)

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