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1/48 Eduard Messerschmitt Bf 110E 5/ZG Wespen "Herbert Kutscha" (FINISHED)

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1/48 Eduard Messerschmitt Bf 110E 5/ZG Wespen "Herbert Kutscha" (FINISHED)
Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:04 AM

Hello folks,

Here's one I have yet to build, the Me 110. I've always kind of liked this plane eventhough it was considered "meat on the table" for the allies.  Apparently it did find a role as a bomber destroyer and it was used heavily on the Eastern front for ground attack (perhaps other fronts as well).  I'll be doing one such machine from the Russian front, the famous wasp painted nose "Wespen" of 5/ZG.  This particular machine was flown by Herbert Kutscha who would have 47 kills, 22 while flying a 110.  

I plan to do this with the normal camo without the white wash as seen on the cover art above.  I look forward to getting to this part, but it's my understanding this could take awhile (more on that below).

Of course I did a bit of research on this kit before I started.  It's my understanding it's well detailed but this kit is not Eduard's best work fitwise, particularly in the nose gun bay (if you want it closed) and engine nacelle fit.  Sounds like fun. This is their Profipack edition so it comes with extras like color photoetch and canopy masks.

I started with the cockpit.  Like their Hellcat, and perhaps others, it's average on detail and depends heavily on photoetch.  Honestly, I'm just not impressed with Eduard's cockpits.  Maybe I'm just spoiled by Tamiya's latest offerings.  For the life of me I can't figure out why they give you an RLM 02 colored instrument panel, but the cockpit should be RLM 66 for this time period, which they even recommend. It was well done so I used it in lieu of the decal.  I can live with it.  I used XF-24 Dark Grey for my RLM 66.  Their PE belts are a nice enhancement. There was a bunch of other small PE bits, like handles on the ammo drums, but after I sent several flying trying to attach them, I gave up and went with good enough.  I figured the IP and belts were the important additions.    

I was able to finagle it to the fuselage.  So far so good.  

I should be closing it up soon.  I  have their C model in my stash which I was gonna build along side this, but I ultimately decided to see how this one goes first. If this is torture I don't want to be subjected to it twice!

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:44 AM

Your pit is looking fantastic as usual and the wasp art will make this one look even SUPER interesting.

I know what you mean about the Eduard pe color selection which is crazy. They also do the same thing with other pe sets for US Navy jets were the grey is too light on certain parts but as you said I can live with it. 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:13 AM

Now we're talkin' Joe! I love the 110, probably my fave next to the 190.  Of course I'm in! 

Chad

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:10 PM

Don't forget the 110 as a night fighter, Joe.  Probably the role it was best at.

John

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Posted by Hoss WA on Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:00 PM

The office is looking great!  This one has been on my list as well, but I've been wary for the same reasons you've mentioned. I'm interested in how you get along with the kit. 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:21 AM

plasticjunkie

Your pit is looking fantastic as usual and the wasp art will make this one look even SUPER interesting.

I know what you mean about the Eduard pe color selection which is crazy. They also do the same thing with other pe sets for US Navy jets were the grey is too light on certain parts but as you said I can live with it. 

 

Thanks PJ.  Interstingly, I was looking at the C version in my stash and it comes with 02 and 66 option.  WTH? Wish I would have looked in there earlier.....der.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:22 AM

Mopar Madness

Now we're talkin' Joe! I love the 110, probably my fave next to the 190.  Of course I'm in! 

 

Good to have you Chad.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:28 AM

jeaton01

Don't forget the 110 as a night fighter, Joe.  Probably the role it was best at.

 

Ahh, I was unaware of that. I knew the Me 410 was used alot at night. Or was it the 210?  Perhaps both.  I suppose something fairly easy to shoot down would flurish hidden in the night sky.  I may need one of those someday.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:30 AM

Hoss WA

The office is looking great!  This one has been on my list as well, but I've been wary for the same reasons you've mentioned. I'm interested in how you get along with the kit. 

 

Thanks Hoss.  I will advise accordingly.  I'm looking forward to diving in.  I have my sandpaper and a brand new silver Sharpie ready!

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Posted by pilotjohn on Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:43 AM

Looks awesome!  I have this kit too, but I will live through yours:)

John

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, April 19, 2020 9:03 AM
I'll be curious to see your take on this. I'm building the Pro Modeler G night fighter now

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, April 20, 2020 6:58 AM

pilotjohn

Looks awesome!  I have this kit too, but I will live through yours:)

John

 

Nice to have you John

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, April 20, 2020 7:00 AM

tempestjohnny
I'll be curious to see your take on this. I'm building the Pro Modeler G night fighter now
 

I have that kit as well. I hear it's not bad. 

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Posted by Greatmaker on Monday, April 20, 2020 7:40 AM

Fantastic work on the pit Joe.  I've been eyeing this kit. Looking forward to your take on it

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, April 20, 2020 9:12 AM

That's a nice start on your Zerstoerer.  

This one has long been a favorite of mine among Luftwaffe aircraft, dating way back to when I was a wee lad and built the old Monogram 1/72 kit.  In more recent years, I've done different variants of this bird in the three primary aircraft scales:  Revell's big 1/32 Bf110G-4, Monogram Pro-Modeler's 1/48 Bf110G-4, and Monogram's 1/72 Bf110E-1 in that Wespen scheme you are doing with this kit.  I still have another of the 1/72 kits in my stash, and a 1/48 Dragon Bf110D-3.

Fun story on my build of that 1/32 kit - I finished that one off shortly before I took my family on a surprise trip to Disney World in 2013 doing a bunch of mottling all across the build (much like a classic He219 finish), and I stuck a "hidden Mickey" among all that mottling.  For any who don't know, if you are in Disney World, if you look hard enough, you'll find Mickey Mouse symbols (the two small circles, or ears, over the larger circle, or face) hidden in plain sight.  Did that for my then 7-year-old daughter's amusement.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, April 24, 2020 3:26 AM

Greatmaker

Fantastic work on the pit Joe.  I've been eyeing this kit. Looking forward to your take on it

 

Thanks Robert

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, April 24, 2020 3:29 AM

Aggieman

That's a nice start on your Zerstoerer.  

This one has long been a favorite of mine among Luftwaffe aircraft, dating way back to when I was a wee lad and built the old Monogram 1/72 kit.  In more recent years, I've done different variants of this bird in the three primary aircraft scales:  Revell's big 1/32 Bf110G-4, Monogram Pro-Modeler's 1/48 Bf110G-4, and Monogram's 1/72 Bf110E-1 in that Wespen scheme you are doing with this kit.  I still have another of the 1/72 kits in my stash, and a 1/48 Dragon Bf110D-3.

Fun story on my build of that 1/32 kit - I finished that one off shortly before I took my family on a surprise trip to Disney World in 2013 doing a bunch of mottling all across the build (much like a classic He219 finish), and I stuck a "hidden Mickey" among all that mottling.  For any who don't know, if you are in Disney World, if you look hard enough, you'll find Mickey Mouse symbols (the two small circles, or ears, over the larger circle, or face) hidden in plain sight.  Did that for my then 7-year-old daughter's amusement.

 

Ha!  I may do the same.  Let's see if you can spot it.  I always liked Galland's armed Mickey Mouse symbol on his Messerschmitts.  

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, April 24, 2020 4:21 AM

I've been plugging along on this bad boy.  Well, reviews out there on this kit are pretty much dead on, it takes alot of patience. I will point out the areas I had trouble with for those who wish to tackle this turkey. 

I closed up the fuselage to discover the panel lines were slightly staggered.  Not unfixable, but enough to be annoying when trying to rescribe lost panel lines on the spine. The nose fit was as reported, absolutely comical if you want it closed up.  Heres my solution.

1.First I glued the two nose pieces together (top and bottom).

2. You'll find that the lower piece is slightly longer, so I sanded the back face until it's flush.             

3. The fuselage nose is unfortunately slightly larger in diameter than the nose piece, which leaves a step.  I sanded the front face of the fuselage back until it's the same width as the nose piece. It worked for me.  It will look lke this...

4. Don't add any of the gunbay parts.  Instead, add some plasticard to the inside of the nosepiece so it has something to sit on. I did it this way. 

5. Glue that turkey in place. Mine was far from perfect but it's passable.  It will get covered by a big wasp decal anyways, so I got that going for me. I also added a piece of plasticard inside the nose so the Quickboost guns have something to butt up against. 

I moved on to the wings.  The nacelles actually fit very well but there's a hug gap at the top joint where they meet the wing.   On both sides of course.  I filled it with superglue and used the accelerator sanding trick.  I then rescribed the panel line back in.  Again, not perfect but good enough. This was sort of a pain. Next time I'll fill the gap with plasticard. I know this looks horrible now, but it was passable once primered.    

I put my silver Sharpie to good use on this one and it needed quite a bit of filler. Sometimes we need one of those kits to hone our skills I suppose. I thing the worst is over...

I eventually got the seamwork to a satisfactory point. 

I had a left over Montex Bf109 set in the stash and horked the crosses. The rest will be decals. First I preshaded the lines and general areas that are to be black thusly....

Next I added the white and masked those areas.

Next I got the yellow fired down, which in this subject is the lower wing tips and an oddly placed fuselage band. I added a few drops of red to brighten it up.  

Now the fun part.  The Eduard instructions call for RLM 74/75 over 76, then a white wash on this subject.  I won't be doing the white wash, as it will be depicted as it looks on the box cover art.  I started with AK Real Colors RLM 76 early version.  Their late version seems too blue to me.  I mottled and faded it with the addttion of XF-2 White. As always, these perform flawlessly. 

Next I will start on the upper camo. 

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Posted by Nikola on Friday, April 24, 2020 5:51 AM

Hi Lawdog,

Looking great so far! Following with pleasure.

 

Best,

Nikola

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, April 24, 2020 7:47 AM

Well regardless of the gap issues it's coming along nicely. The mrkings are looking great too.

For thin gaps I use Plastic Weld in my Touch N Flow applicator to close those gaps up, works every time. Have you thought of shooting white first where the yellow will go? It will be a lot easier for the yellow to cover over the white and takes less paint too. I also do the same under red paint.

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Friday, April 24, 2020 10:27 AM

Awesome LD! I was really curious as to how you were going to handle that gap between the wing and nacelle. I have this one on the shortlist so I'll try that same tip. Thank you for sharing.

Chad

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At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

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Posted by knox on Friday, April 24, 2020 4:18 PM

  I’m sorry I don’t comment as much as I should on your builds. Often, I run across them late, and all the good adjectives have alreday been used. As always, you do masterful work, I appreciate you taking the time to post, and your wip’s are a blast to follow.  I’m thinking of getting a thesaurus to help with commenting on your work. 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Friday, April 24, 2020 5:59 PM

Nice construction work on the nose and nacelles. I like the plasticard approach you used for the nose. Great paint work as always.

I'm probably going to move this one down on the priority list. My recent Me 262 was enough sanding and filling for 3 kits. 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Friday, April 24, 2020 11:48 PM

Need to bookmark this one for when I tackle this kit from my stash, and I'll be doing mine with the dogs eating a plane. I hate myself, so I'll probably get myself an F or a G to put the Wespe decals on, and a night fighter with the schräge muzik cannon. Of course I'll probably be 50 before I get to that point...

Excellent modeling, my friend. I think you're a touch critical of your own work, your fix for the nose particularly turned out pretty nice.

Thanks for sharing!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:42 PM

Nikola

Hi Lawdog,

Looking great so far! Following with pleasure.

 

Best,

Nikola

 

Thanks Nikola

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:49 PM

plasticjunkie

Well regardless of the gap issues it's coming along nicely. The mrkings are looking great too.

For thin gaps I use Plastic Weld in my Touch N Flow applicator to close those gaps up, works every time. Have you thought of shooting white first where the yellow will go? It will be a lot easier for the yellow to cover over the white and takes less paint too. I also do the same under red paint.

 

Thank PJ. I tried to fill them with only MEK, which I presume plastic weld is, but they were too wide. I prefer a black base undercoat as it gives them depth and that darker used look I was going for. I appreciate the suggestion. 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:50 PM

Mopar Madness

Awesome LD! I was really curious as to how you were going to handle that gap between the wing and nacelle. I have this one on the shortlist so I'll try that same tip. Thank you for sharing.

 

Thanks Chad

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:56 PM

knox

  I’m sorry I don’t comment as much as I should on your builds. Often, I run across them late, and all the good adjectives have alreday been used. As always, you do masterful work, I appreciate you taking the time to post, and your wip’s are a blast to follow.  I’m thinking of getting a thesaurus to help with commenting on your work. 

                                                knox 

 

                            

 

Your kind words are appreciated Knox. Thank you. It's always nice to know my WIP threads are useful to some folks. 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:59 PM

Hoss WA

Nice construction work on the nose and nacelles. I like the plasticard approach you used for the nose. Great paint work as always.

I'm probably going to move this one down on the priority list. My recent Me 262 was enough sanding and filling for 3 kits. 

 

Thanks Hoss. Your 262 was outstanding. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:04 PM

RadMax8

Need to bookmark this one for when I tackle this kit from my stash, and I'll be doing mine with the dogs eating a plane. I hate myself, so I'll probably get myself an F or a G to put the Wespe decals on, and a night fighter with the schräge muzik cannon. Of course I'll probably be 50 before I get to that point...

Excellent modeling, my friend. I think you're a touch critical of your own work, your fix for the nose particularly turned out pretty nice.

Thanks for sharing!

 

Thanks Max. 

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