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Helldiver! 2/08/09 Post Script

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  • From: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posted by chukw on Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:51 PM
Thanks, fellas!   I really appreciate the support- this is a reall journey!   As for progress, last week was pretty sparse, but I spent this Saturday at the office- the pilot's office, that is! So far, just the cockpit floor, bulkhead and one little sidewall bit are left from the kit parts. I've used all the Eduard bits and some of the better parts from from the True Details set. Here's an early shot of the starboard sidewall. Note the soldered brass legs for the control quadrant, the solder hydraulic lines for the wobble pump ready for placement- and the repair to the goofed-up PE quadrant. Oh, well- ya mess up these little bits once] in a while... Black Eye [B)] I added a guage seen in a photograph. The True Details version was kind of lumpy so I made my own. The wire is stripped from an old bit of electric cable. Eduard provided this bracket, but I made the crank that goes through it. I drilled tiny holes in styrene and then punch out the discs for the knob and support spacer. Here's an annotated view of the sidewall listing all the scratchbuilt (and repaired) pieces. Likewise, a breakdown of the True Details elements. Let's see it without all that yammering: There's lots of pre-colored and printed PE to go in, but that will have to wait until after painting.... Every office needs a comfy chair, and True Details wins out here- check out the comparison with the kit chair. I like seat belts as they're molded here. Eduard adds this uber-nifty set of pulleys and bungees for the adjustment mechanism. I love this stuff! Propeller [8-]
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:48 AM

Looks great!

I wish my dad was still here so I could show it to him and hear some more stories about him working on them. Wink [;)]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by yardbird78 on Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:09 AM

Beautiful work on the details in the bomb bay.  This will obviously be a truly outstanding model when finished.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:41 AM
Although I am no fan of the Helldiver (they were very unpopular w/ their crews), this is truly outstanding work... 
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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:33 AM

Awesome work fella Thumbs Up [tup]

...Guy

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Posted by Jim Barton on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:18 PM
Coming along beautifully!Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by wyoroy on Sunday, November 4, 2007 6:11 PM

Your work is outstandingThumbs Up [tup]  I like the tip of getting bent wire flat, you are the masterBow [bow]

Roy

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

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Posted by chukw on Sunday, November 4, 2007 5:14 PM
Well, Luftwoller- here's a shot of the root wearing some quick paint.  Interior green it is! I'm not going too crazy because it'll tough to protect it from overspray.

I've glued the subassembly to the fuselage- no turning back now!  

After relentless inspection of the photographic reference at hand, I finally realized what was missing from the bay.  It's the actual bomb racks!  Eduard referenced the surviving SB2C-5, which has had 'em removed.  I swiped some PE racks from Classic Airframes' Brewster Model 239 Buffalo (Finnish version)- they're a nice surplus on the etch fret.  I layered them with some strip of styrene to fit the Etched brackets.  Kinda kluged together, but they look good and busy.  

Here they are temporarily set in place- they're bare metal, so I'll fix them in after the Interior green is sprayed in.  


My photos show a centerline rack fitted along with the outers- for a heavy payload.  I'll be scratchbuilding this one- but now I've got to go wash the Spyder.  See you next week!  
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Posted by Luftwoller on Sunday, November 4, 2007 5:24 AM

This is turning into an amazing build. I cant wait to see whats next. The details in the bomb bay are awesome. What is the interior B/bay colour? Zinc Cromate? I hope your going to get some paint on the wiring before you glue the B/bay sides in, to get all that lovely detail, detailed.

...Guy

 

 

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Posted by Jim Barton on Saturday, November 3, 2007 9:54 PM
So, how did the root canal go? Hope everything went okay and you get back to the 'Diver.

"Whaddya mean 'Who's flying the plane?!' Nobody's flying the plane!"

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Posted by Jim Barton on Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:40 PM

 chukw wrote:
Back from my journeys- and back to that bomb bay! Here's an alert- one thing the good folks at Eduard fail to mention is this little stub spar in the wing root. Chop it out or the PE-enhanced bay won't fit! Here's what it should look like- easy! Before we go any further, here's a tip for straightening wire- even a kinked piece like this can be salvaged. Just lay it on a flat, hard surface- glass will do, but I use the base of my Mission Models Etch-Mate. Simply roll the wire with a flat tool, like the base end of a pair of tweezers. Hey, Presto! The wire is ready to become a simulated hydraulic line. The kit wing roots display some basic engraved detail- these appear to be the continuations of the hydraulic lines in the wheel well. They've got to go- scrape 'em out! Add some spacers from styrene stock and place your first wire- it's basically straight. Here the rest have been added. Using more spacers a second layer of piping has been put in place- not a thicker line form fine solder. I was having fun and this was going a lot faster than I thought it might, so I added a third layer, flush with the hull. Tiny blocks of styrene formed junction boxes which I linked together with neatly-bent lengths of scrap wire form the first two layers. Waste not, want not, move along quickly. Here's what it looks like with the bomb bay dry-fitted in place. I did the other side while I was all fired up. Test-fitting the wings saved me from an awkward time fitting the baomb bay later, but also revealed upcoming obstacles. The fit ain't so hot, and the chord on the starboard ming seems too long for it's rroot. Oh, Woes! Not to fear- I'll let this problem percolate through my chugging cranium. Victory shall be mine!

 

An even quicker way to straighten out bent wire is with a small steel plate and do the same rolling procedure. I first learned it from a member of my local IPMS chapter during a Saturday get-together at his house.

I don't go on the forums here very much but I'll try to keep tabs on the Helldiver. This is going to be a fun build to watch!

"Whaddya mean 'Who's flying the plane?!' Nobody's flying the plane!"

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Posted by davew6003 on Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:27 PM

 Daywalker wrote:
Sign - Ditto [#ditto], keep up the good work! Thumbs Up [tup]

yes this is looking great, Im going to have to build one of these one day.

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:25 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto], keep up the good work! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:22 PM
That is some awesome work, chukw! Very nice detailing. That tubing work is inspiring- you make it look so darn simple. Smile [:)]

Jon Bius

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Oh, I get you...
Posted by chukw on Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:51 PM
...that's my old Dremel drill press stand.   A handy thing, but not exactly high-precision, if you get my drift.  Wink [;)]
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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:37 PM
 chukw wrote:

Thanks, guys!  Squeakie, I'm not sure I follow.  Which arbor press are you referring to?  I don't think I own one... Confused [%-)]

Whilw you're waiting for me to get off my duff and chop more plastic, check out mu updated site: http://www.chukw.com 

setting ontop of the cabnet. Leastwise it looks like ne to me

gary

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Posted by chukw on Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:29 PM
Back from my journeys- and back to that bomb bay! Here's an alert- one thing the good folks at Eduard fail to mention is this little stub spar in the wing root. Chop it out or the PE-enhanced bay won't fit! Here's what it should look like- easy! Before we go any further, here's a tip for straightening wire- even a kinked piece like this can be salvaged. Just lay it on a flat, hard surface- glass will do, but I use the base of my Mission Models Etch-Mate. Simply roll the wire with a flat tool, like the base end of a pair of tweezers. Hey, Presto! The wire is ready to become a simulated hydraulic line. The kit wing roots display some basic engraved detail- these appear to be the continuations of the hydraulic lines in the wheel well. They've got to go- scrape 'em out! Add some spacers from styrene stock and place your first wire- it's basically straight. Here the rest have been added. Using more spacers a second layer of piping has been put in place- not a thicker line form fine solder. I was having fun and this was going a lot faster than I thought it might, so I added a third layer, flush with the hull. Tiny blocks of styrene formed junction boxes which I linked together with neatly-bent lengths of scrap wire form the first two layers. Waste not, want not, move along quickly. Here's what it looks like with the bomb bay dry-fitted in place. I did the other side while I was all fired up. Test-fitting the wings saved me from an awkward time fitting the baomb bay later, but also revealed upcoming obstacles. The fit ain't so hot, and the chord on the starboard ming seems too long for it's rroot. Oh, Woes! Not to fear- I'll let this problem percolate through my chugging cranium. Victory shall be mine!
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Posted by chukw on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:25 AM
That's a beauty, Wayne- cheers!
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Posted by wayne baker on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:18 AM

Thought I would add a  picture.

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Posted by chukw on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:26 AM

Thanks, guys!  Squeakie, I'm not sure I follow.  Which arbor press are you referring to?  I don't think I own one... Confused [%-)]

Whilw you're waiting for me to get off my duff and chop more plastic, check out mu updated site: http://www.chukw.com 

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Posted by squeakie on Monday, October 15, 2007 12:26 AM

nice arbor press! I use a K&M.

gary

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Posted by squeakie on Monday, October 15, 2007 12:24 AM

Nice arbor press! What brand is it? I use a K&M.

gary

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Posted by arki30 on Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:50 PM

Killer. 

The bomb bay PE does make a huge difference over the kit parts, doesn't it?  Thumbs Up [tup] Keep posting, we're enjoying this.

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:48 PM

Cool! Cool [8D]

My dad was crewchief of Curtis SB2C Helldivers at the end of WWII down in El Toro, CA.

 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, October 14, 2007 7:39 PM

 davew6003 wrote:
Comming along very nicely. This is one of those builds that is going to be fun to follow. I have plans to build a Helldiver one day, but I doubt it will look like this one.Make a Toast [#toast]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I am really enjoying this build.  Keep the progress pics coming! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by davew6003 on Sunday, October 14, 2007 7:09 PM
Comming along very nicely. This is one of those builds that is going to be fun to follow. I have plans to build a Helldiver one day, but I doubt it will look like this one.Make a Toast [#toast]
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Posted by chukw on Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:51 PM
I've been super-busy at work and home lately, but I have managed to sneak a bit of modeling time in. I laid the photo-etch in the bomb bay- starting to look busy! The fit of all the little widgets is excellent- good job, Uncle Eduard! The trusses sport some excellent detail. Uh-oh! Lots of CYA "frost"- not to worry- this will disappear under a coat of primer. Lots of plumbing to be added as well! I'm still fussing with the turtledeck bits- here's the deck temporarily hinged with masking tape. I think it's gonna work. B) I did figure out a way to make those pressed stiffening ribs look less like these simple cutouts... ..just brush on a little Mr. Surfacer and let dry for 30 minutes or so. Then wipe away the excess with a q-tip dampened with laquer thinner- presto! Rounded grooves!
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Posted by chukw on Sunday, October 7, 2007 8:54 PM

Thanks, Wing_Nut- that walkaround is the stuff.  As far as the Falcon set, I'm willing to bet it's for the ancient Monogram Beast, bu never fear-  I've formulated a daring plan to fix my windshield.  It may take years and cost thousands of lives, but it'll worth it!

Luftwoller, I'm a big fan of your builds- may thanks!

 That said, I've got a little done- things have been busy!  
Here's that rear bulkhead, with stiffening grooves and rear laminations cut out:

...glued, shaped and in the process of test-fitting.  Photographic proof that I am all thumbs!

Here are the new folding panels, from styrene, stretched sprue and Evergreen strip, plus the tail fillet.  Note the rudder offset- that's not making fitting the bulkhead any easier! 

Here's a detail short- this is one of the second set of upper panels.  The first set was ruined when I tried give them a mild bend using hot water to better match the ones cut from the kit.  Careful examination of photos of the rear turtledeck doesn't really show any curvature.   I think I'll leave 'em flat.

That's it for now, True Believers!

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:42 PM

Great work Chuk, Like the others im looking for ward to the next issue.

...Guy

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:41 AM

Here is a link to a walk around...

http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/sb2c/sb2c.shtml 

 

Falcon Industries make a vac canopy that comes in a set of about a half dozen US Navy aircraft. They make the Squadron vac canopies.  When I was looking Squadron was out of stock and I don’t remember where I found the Flacon set, but it’s the Falcon Clear-Vax Set #7, US Navy Pt.1.

The sliding section doesn’t have any molded in framework so it can be masked and painted to match a couple of different versions.  The aft section with the turtle deck can be open or closed.

Here is the Falcon link…

http://www.falconmodels.co.nz/clearvax/set07.html 

Marc  

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