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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, May 1, 2014 6:31 PM

Hi Everyone,

Now that I have the method down on how to convert these DVDs to MP4s, I have done another one.  This has some pretty cool footage of being inside the cockpit with the pilot of a RF-101C as he performs some test hops.  Also some footage from an air show at Kadena AFB, Okinawa.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, May 1, 2014 6:33 PM

I am so pissed off right now.  I just spent an hour and a half narrating the next video and this stupid excuse for a website lost all of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, May 1, 2014 6:42 PM

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, May 1, 2014 8:36 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Anyway, this film has some great action in it where a pilot of an RF-101C took my Dad's camera up with him.  This pilot definitely had fun, flying low to the surface at full speed, at one point straight toward the side of a cliff pulling up at the last second.  He also did a few barrel rolls, flew straight up and straight down (both at an incredible rate of speed shown on the altimeter), and some spins.  It also has some really great footage of early 1960 vintage aircraft and helicopters at one of Kadena's "Open House" events in Okinawa.

Ken

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Posted by jimbot58 on Friday, May 2, 2014 3:37 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

 

BAH!!! I remember when we carved our own models out of wood using a sharp rock!!! See this big one with animal hair on it is a wooly mammoth and the small pointy one is a saber-tooth!!! 

Way too funny!!  LMAO!  Big Smile 

Ken

It's funny how at the ripe old age of 56, I find myself becoming my parents!

I remember rolling my eyes when I heard those stories of how you could buy a loaf of bread for a nickle!Confused

Other scary behavior:

I find myself referring to people well into their 20's as "kids".

The other day,I caught myself addressing the young lady behind the counter at Wendy's as "Hon"!

The worst was back when I worked retail, and this young thing I was working with came to work dressed in short shorts and a small top. She was complaining of being cold, and the words that fell out of my mouth were, "If you were any wearing clothes, you wouldn't be cold!" Somehow I had been possessed by my Mother!

If I do this in my 50's, what will I do in my 60's?

Think I'll go watch The Weather Channel for a few hours, then after that go for a drive on the highway, being sure to stay in the fast lane and go no faster than 30 mph!

I seem to remember my first aircraft model looked something like this:

Jim

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It's all about classic cars now!

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 2, 2014 9:13 AM

Ken: Again thanks! I'm going to sit down this weekend when I have a little more time and check out the clip you just posted.

At 44 I'm a little younger than you guys but I do remember a lot of stuff the younger generation today would probably think 'prehistoric.'

No microwave- if you wanted something to eat you had to WAIT for it so you'd be good and hungry when it was done!

Getting up and crossing the room to change the TV channel- remotes were for rich people.

Of course back then you only had CBS, ABC, NBC, and PBS to chose from anyway.

When we got a FOX station in the area hanging aluminum foil off the 'rabbit ears' to get better reception!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:01 AM

Ken, I may have missed it but was your dad part of a recon group flying RF-101C's?

Jim

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:51 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Son Of Medicine Man

Anyway, this film has some great action in it where a pilot of an RF-101C took my Dad's camera up with him.  This pilot definitely had fun, flying low to the surface at full speed, at one point straight toward the side of a cliff pulling up at the last second.  He also did a few barrel rolls, flew straight up and straight down (both at an incredible rate of speed shown on the altimeter), and some spins.  It also has some really great footage of early 1960 vintage aircraft and helicopters at one of Kadena's "Open House" events in Okinawa.

Ken

Fascinating movie, Ken! It was interesting to see all the other aircraft there too. I didn't realize there were B-52s there at that time. Were they part of the Vietnam buildup or were they just there for the airshow?

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, May 3, 2014 4:23 PM

jimbot58

Ken, I may have missed it but was your dad part of a recon group flying RF-101C's?

Jim

Hi Jim,

My Dad was a crew chief for the RF-101C in the 15th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron the "Cotton Pickers".

At the time he was in this squadron, it was assigned to Kadena AFB, Okinawa (circa 1962-1965).

Ken 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, May 3, 2014 4:36 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Son Of Medicine Man

Anyway, this film has some great action in it where a pilot of an RF-101C took my Dad's camera up with him.  This pilot definitely had fun, flying low to the surface at full speed, at one point straight toward the side of a cliff pulling up at the last second.  He also did a few barrel rolls, flew straight up and straight down (both at an incredible rate of speed shown on the altimeter), and some spins.  It also has some really great footage of early 1960 vintage aircraft and helicopters at one of Kadena's "Open House" events in Okinawa.

Ken

Fascinating movie, Ken! It was interesting to see all the other aircraft there too. I didn't realize there were B-52s there at that time. Were they part of the Vietnam buildup or were they just there for the airshow?

Cheers,

Russ

Hi Russ,

I don't think the B-52 was part of the airshow, but I could be wrong.  I was very young at the time.  I think that my Dad just took pictures of it.  That may have been as close as he could get to it at the time.  Since the time frame was between 1962-1965 (early 1965), I guess it is possible it was for the Vietnam buildup.  My Dad did like taking pictures of the B-52.  I have another film that he shot in Taiwan that has some B-52 footage.

Ken

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Posted by jimbot58 on Saturday, May 3, 2014 7:42 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Ken, I may have missed it but was your dad part of a recon group flying RF-101C's?

Jim

Hi Jim,

My Dad was a crew chief for the RF-101C in the 15th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron the "Cotton Pickers".

At the time he was in this squadron, it was assigned to Kadena AFB, Okinawa (circa 1962-1965).

Ken 

Very cool, Ken. There was a time when I dismissed "R" versions of aircraft, because I felt they just weren't real fighters. One evening I watched a story about "PR" Spitfires (Photo-Reconnaissance) that were used in WWII. Without their use, the war could have gone on a lot longer, and the outcome of D-Day could have been a lot different if important information hadn't been discovered. The story also told of how they were able to locate such things as V-1 launch sites and German early warning RADAR sites.

These planes had guns and radios removed, and panel lines and gun ports filled, then polished to increase the speed of the plane. Some planes were painted white and others were given a special "Camoutint" color of green or.......

Yes, it's pink! This was supposed to be a perfect color to blend in with overcast skies.

Imagine being the RAF WWII vet who had to explain to his kids how he flew pink airplanes during the war.....

Ken, I read that the Air Deffence Commander credited with helping to develop this technique and the equipment used was named Sidney Cotton. I'm wondering if this man's name could have any relation ship to the name of your Dad's unit, 'Cotton Pickers'?

After that, I came to realize that recon planes were pretty cool. And that's why there is an RF-4B on the workbench now!

I want to get an Airfix PR spitfire, though I don't foresee myself painting it pink!

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:05 AM

Hi Guys!

Today, no model work was done (or housework!). Instead I went wandering and browsed at three different hobby shops. I kind of wanted to see if that Canadian Voodoo Grey was available anywhere. I can confirm it is discontinued, out of stock, and no longer available. That's ok as I really wasn't on a quest for it, I have no immediate plans to build one of the other kits into a Canadian Voodoo any time soon. I do have one or two other kits I can work on in the meantime! It was just an excuse to get out and about for a while. The routine of work, home, work, home, grocery store, home, work, etc. gets dull after a while. I did have to avoid several areas around town as it is Cinco de Mayo this week end.

A few interesting things:

One shop has several old kits in their display case. One that caught my eye was kit marked as a Matchbox/Revell F-101B/CF-101B/F101F Voodoo. It was a white corrugated box with a black and white label glued to it. No where on the box did I see a scale marking, so I assume it was probably "Box Scale". It was too small to house the current version of the Revell Voodoo. I should have asked if it was possible to peek at it, but they were very busy: They had a large nerd and geek gathering... I mean a Dungeons & Dragons tournament  going on in there. At least it gave them a chance to get out of their Mom's basements for a while.

The other thing was at the other shop where they always have a table of estate sale items sitting. I spotted a Hasegawa F-4G "Weasel" It was marked for 30 bucks, and most of the on-shelf kits are marked at around 56 dollars. I had to tearfully turn away, as I have to watch the budget for now. Plus, I already built my "G", and I have more than enough kits to do anyway!

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:13 AM

By the way, I spoke earlier of some of the first kits I built as a lad. One was a Royal Navy version of the F-4.

Saw this at oldmodelkits.com

I think mine cost much less than the 38 dollars they want for it.

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It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:53 PM

jimbot58

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Ken, I may have missed it but was your dad part of a recon group flying RF-101C's?

Jim

Hi Jim,

My Dad was a crew chief for the RF-101C in the 15th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron the "Cotton Pickers".

At the time he was in this squadron, it was assigned to Kadena AFB, Okinawa (circa 1962-1965).

Ken 

Very cool, Ken. There was a time when I dismissed "R" versions of aircraft, because I felt they just weren't real fighters. One evening I watched a story about "PR" Spitfires (Photo-Reconnaissance) that were used in WWII. Without their use, the war could have gone on a lot longer, and the outcome of D-Day could have been a lot different if important information hadn't been discovered. The story also told of how they were able to locate such things as V-1 launch sites and German early warning RADAR sites.

These planes had guns and radios removed, and panel lines and gun ports filled, then polished to increase the speed of the plane. Some planes were painted white and others were given a special "Camoutint" color of green or.......

Yes, it's pink! This was supposed to be a perfect color to blend in with overcast skies.

Imagine being the RAF WWII vet who had to explain to his kids how he flew pink airplanes during the war.....

Ken, I read that the Air Deffence Commander credited with helping to develop this technique and the equipment used was named Sidney Cotton. I'm wondering if this man's name could have any relation ship to the name of your Dad's unit, 'Cotton Pickers'?

After that, I came to realize that recon planes were pretty cool. And that's why there is an RF-4B on the workbench now!

I want to get an Airfix PR spitfire, though I don't foresee myself painting it pink!

Jim

Hi Jim,

Here is a story by Ruffin W. Gray that gives the history of the 15th TRS.  It is no longer up on the website.  I have a few years ago found it was a good idea to save web pages to my computer instead of just the links for this very reason.  I think it is a very interesting read:

THE ORIGIN OF "COTTONPICKERS" (1)

by Ruffin       W. Gray Colonel, USAF (Ret) Commander, 15th TRS -- Oct. ‘51 - May        ‘52

In June 1951,       the 15th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron (Photo Jet) was flying off the       hot, dusty PSP strip at K-2, Korea.  When the North Koreans invaded,       the squadron had been the 8th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron (TRS) at       Itazuke, Japan and commanded by Lt. Col. Jake Dixon.  The 8th TRS       began flying missions the first day of the invasion and had moved up and       down the Korean peninsula as the war progressed.  The 8th has been       officially credited with originating the motto "Every Man A Tiger", and       the motto was carried over to the 15th TRS.

The 67th       Tactical Reconnaissance Wing (TRW) was subsequently formed, and the 8th       TRS was re-designated as the 15th TRS.  The other squadrons in the       wing were the 45th TRS with RF-51s and the 12th TRS with RB-26s.  The       wing was commanded by the renowned Col. Karl "Pop" Polifka who had gained       well-deserved recognition in WW II as commander of recon units in the       SWPA, African and European theaters.  Col. Dixon was the       67th Tactical Reconnaissance Group commander at K-2 airfield in       Taegu.

The 15th TRS       was equipped with about 24 old RF-80’s.  The tail numbers all began       with "45" which gives you a clue as to how old they were.  The old       engine put out about 3500 pounds thrust which had to be augmented with a       water/alcohol tank for take-off.  The birds were so old that they had       a manual starting system, a manual canopy, and a hard seat - no ejection,       just climb over the side.

In early June        ‘51, two young junior captains reported to the squadron on the same day -        Capt. Harry Morris, an Air National Guard (ANG) pilot from Birmingham who       had volunteered for active duty to do his part (Harry was one of the       finest pilots and best officers I have ever known.  He volunteered       for active duty, came to Korea, flew his 100 missions, went home and       reverted to ANG status).

I had spent       the last 11 months shuffling papers in the personnel shop of 13th AF       Headquarters at Clark Air Force Base in the Philippines, and volunteering       for every flying assignment in Korea that came through.  On a TDY to       Korea, I told "Pop" Polifka my tale of woe, and he got me released from       13th AF.

The squadron       was commanded by Major Clyde B. East who had become an ace in the European       Theater of Operations (ETO) while flying RF-51’s in the Second World       War.  Clyde had so many Air Medals that the Air Force had authorized       him to wear two ribbons since he couldn’t get all his clusters on one       ribbon.  He shot down 11 aircraft and had been threatened with court       martial if he shot down another German while flying a recce mission.        He had to wait to claim his last two victories until the AF commander       rotated to avoid court martial.  Capt. Exum F. Bullard was squadron       Operations Officer.

When Harry       Morris and I joined the squadron, the pilots included some of the original       cadre from Japan and about half new replacements; mostly young Lts. Lt.       Bryce Poe had flown a tour with the 15th TRS, and he ended up as a       four-star and commander of Air Logistics Command.   Harry and I were       surprised that the squadron was sorely lacking in lots of amenities such       as intelligence and briefing boards and no pilot facilities - not even a       coffeepot in Operations.  We decided to do something about it. We       quickly learned that a T-33 ride over the front lines could open lots of       supply lines.  After giving the Company Commander and Operations       Officer of a nearby Army Engineering Company a T-33 ride, we soon had a       6x6 unloading a load of plywood and 2x4s at the squadron area.

All the pilots       pitched in constructing a pilot’s lounge adjacent to operations.  The       Photo Joes found out they could cut a double miter joint with a hand saw       to build a frame for a GI tent.  With some parachute silk for the       ceiling, woven grass mats for wall covering, and other innovations, the       old CI tent took on a classy look.  Squadron "Scroungers" found ways       to open up supply lines for beer and cokes, and we soon had a pilot’s       lounge equipped with dart boards, poker and card tables, a bar and other       amenities.

THE ORIGIN OF "COTTONPICKERS" (2)

As an aside, I       had the grand total of 20 hours jet time when I joined the squadron.        I had conned the commander of the 44th FBS at Clark to give me a quick       check-out in the F-80C before departing for Korea.  I flew 20 hours       in about a week at Clark and was on my way.   At K-2, I clashed with       the squadron training officer, Lt. Herb Barnes, who insisted that I go       through a rather lengthy local check-out and training program.        Having spent 11 months fighting to get there, I was eager to start flying       missions.  I finally reminded Herb that I had been flying missions in       the SWPA in F-5s (P-38) while he was still in high school.  So I       launched on my first mission with 20 hours total.

I had checked       out in the F-80C and the old RF-80A with its small engine, manual start       and canopy was quite a change.  I also noted that part of the cockpit       equipment was a small baseball-type bat in clips on the floor of the       cockpit.  I had no idea what this was for and didn’t want to seem too       much like the typical "FNG" by asking.  I finally asked Hank Ezell,       another pilot who was from my hometown, and was told that it was to be       used to beat the canopy off in the event you bellied in and couldn’t       manually pull the canopy back.

The 15th TRS       pilot lounge soon became the orbit point for all pilot activities - letter       writing while waiting for missions, card and dart games, reading, poker       sessions, and sites for 100 missions parties, birthdays, promotions, etc.,       etc. As activities increased, some club rules emerged.  Someone had       turned up with an old fashioned, hard black bowler hat - which became the       symbol to identify the pilot serving as bartender that night.  It was       also decreed that all pilots of the flight scheduled for the next day’s       early missions would leave the club at 2200, and retire for the       evening.

The flight       commander of "D" flight was a great guy from Augusta, Georgia who’s       favorite expression in an aggravated southern drawl was, "Come on, you       Cottonpickers, let’s go".  For some unknown reason, Rich had been       tabbed with the nickname "Shaky Leader" - not used in a derogatory       manner.  So every time Rich’s flight was scheduled for the early       missions, he’d stand up in the club at 2200 and announce in a loud voice,       "Okay all you Cottonpickers, let’s go".   At some point, the question       arose on a name for the club and someone suggested "Cottonpickers" and it       stuck.

In late August       or early September 1951, the wing moved to Kimpo, K-14.  Clyde East       and Exum Bullard rotated to the states, and Major Bruce B. Fish became       squadron commander and Captain Joe Daly Operations Officer.  On       arrival at Kimpo, the squadron constructed another "Cottonpickers" club -       this time in two Jamesway huts immediately behind the Operations Quonset       hut.  Colonel Edwin S. Chickering came over as Wing Commander with       Colonel Bert Smiley serving as his deputy.  Colonel Charles C.       Andrews arrived as Tactical Group commander.  We checked Colonel       "Chick" and "Andy" out in the RF-80, and they became ardent supporters of       the Cottonpickers club.

The 4th       Fighter Wing (the only F-86 equipped wing in Korea at that time) was on       the north side of Kimpo, and the 67th Wing occupied the south side along       with the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) squadron of Meteors, commanded       by Wing Commander Ron Susans.  Ron later became an Air Commodore and       chief of the RAAF.  The 15th Squadron and the Aussies soon became an       almost combined squadron, and the Aussies were in the Cottonpickers club       nightly.

Major Fish       appointed me Squadron Exec; and after 30 days, I got a spot promotion to       Major.  B. B. was then pulled up as Group Exec, and I was designated       Squadron Commander.  Lieutenant General Frank Everest was 5th Air       Force (FEAF) Commander who came out to Kimpo from time to time.   On       his first visit, Colonel "Chick" brought him down to the squadron and into       the Cottonpickers for a beer.  Behind the bar, we had built mug racks       to hold the squadron beer mugs.  At the top of the rack was a single       slot with a big wheel underneath and a mug inscribed "Hank" for Gen.       Everest.  Underneath his mug were three slots with a smaller wheel       and mugs inscribed "Chick", "Bert", and "Andy" for the wing CO, deputy and       group Co.   Underneath these three was a slot with a little small       wheel, and my mug "Ruff".

THE ORIGIN OF "COTTONPICKERS" (3)

General Everest immediately became a supporter       of the Cottonpickers announcing that it was the only bar in the world       where he had his own mug. From then on at the monthly 5th AF wing       commanders conference, he would call on Colonel Chickering first with the       remark, "Well Chick, what’s going on at the Cottonpickers?"
As time       went on, squadron lounges such as the Cottonpickers sprang up all over       Korea. At one Wing Commanders conference, some bean counter from the       Comptroller shop announced that the squadron clubs would have to be closed       since they were generating a certain amount of money without proper       controls and accounting procedures. Gen. Everest stated that such a       decision, if carried out, would not apply to the       Cottonpickers.
This is a long-winded dissertation to explain the       derivation of the name "Cottonpickers" but it is the way it       happened.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:15 PM

jimbot58

Hi Guys!

Today, no model work was done (or housework!). Instead I went wandering and browsed at three different hobby shops. I kind of wanted to see if that Canadian Voodoo Grey was available anywhere. I can confirm it is discontinued, out of stock, and no longer available. That's ok as I really wasn't on a quest for it, I have no immediate plans to build one of the other kits into a Canadian Voodoo any time soon. I do have one or two other kits I can work on in the meantime! It was just an excuse to get out and about for a while. The routine of work, home, work, home, grocery store, home, work, etc. gets dull after a while. I did have to avoid several areas around town as it is Cinco de Mayo this week end.

A few interesting things:

One shop has several old kits in their display case. One that caught my eye was kit marked as a Matchbox/Revell F-101B/CF-101B/F101F Voodoo. It was a white corrugated box with a black and white label glued to it. No where on the box did I see a scale marking, so I assume it was probably "Box Scale". It was too small to house the current version of the Revell Voodoo. I should have asked if it was possible to peek at it, but they were very busy: They had a large nerd and geek gathering... I mean a Dungeons & Dragons tournament  going on in there. At least it gave them a chance to get out of their Mom's basements for a while.

The other thing was at the other shop where they always have a table of estate sale items sitting. I spotted a Hasegawa F-4G "Weasel" It was marked for 30 bucks, and most of the on-shelf kits are marked at around 56 dollars. I had to tearfully turn away, as I have to watch the budget for now. Plus, I already built my "G", and I have more than enough kits to do anyway!

Jim

Sounds like you had an interesting day Jim.  As I have said before, I wish we lived close to each other so we could hang out together.  It would be really cool if everyone on this group build lived close to each other.  We could hang out on a weekly basis!  That would be awesome!

Ken

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Posted by mikeymize on Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:15 PM

I was thinking along the same lines Ken as I have spent a good deal of time at Grissom AFB in the 90's when my unit converted to KC-135's and I think that must be relatively close to where you are. I have traveled a bit during my time in the Air Force as well as Civil Service and except for my time at college haven't really been so long in a place to call it "home". It's okay though as I feel like we are all good friends and share a lot in this GB. Not sure why but this one seems to have become my favorite due to our love of modeling as well as sharing non-hobby related stuff. Not to sound overly sappy but this is almost an extended family for me so, thanks guys.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:25 PM

Well, I thought maybe there was another connection, but should have figured there was quite a stretch from a Australian born RAF commander and an American unit serving in the Asian theater.

Sounds like a good idea to save web pages. I have had times where I found something interesting or important, only to find the page gone only days later.

Jim

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On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Monday, May 5, 2014 3:07 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Hi Guys!

Today, no model work was done (or housework!). Instead I went wandering and browsed at three different hobby shops. I kind of wanted to see if that Canadian Voodoo Grey was available anywhere. I can confirm it is discontinued, out of stock, and no longer available. That's ok as I really wasn't on a quest for it, I have no immediate plans to build one of the other kits into a Canadian Voodoo any time soon. I do have one or two other kits I can work on in the meantime! It was just an excuse to get out and about for a while. The routine of work, home, work, home, grocery store, home, work, etc. gets dull after a while. I did have to avoid several areas around town as it is Cinco de Mayo this week end.

A few interesting things:

One shop has several old kits in their display case. One that caught my eye was kit marked as a Matchbox/Revell F-101B/CF-101B/F101F Voodoo. It was a white corrugated box with a black and white label glued to it. No where on the box did I see a scale marking, so I assume it was probably "Box Scale". It was too small to house the current version of the Revell Voodoo. I should have asked if it was possible to peek at it, but they were very busy: They had a large nerd and geek gathering... I mean a Dungeons & Dragons tournament  going on in there. At least it gave them a chance to get out of their Mom's basements for a while.

The other thing was at the other shop where they always have a table of estate sale items sitting. I spotted a Hasegawa F-4G "Weasel" It was marked for 30 bucks, and most of the on-shelf kits are marked at around 56 dollars. I had to tearfully turn away, as I have to watch the budget for now. Plus, I already built my "G", and I have more than enough kits to do anyway!

Jim

Sounds like you had an interesting day Jim.  As I have said before, I wish we lived close to each other so we could hang out together.  It would be really cool if everyone on this group build lived close to each other.  We could hang out on a weekly basis!  That would be awesome!

Ken

Yeah Ken, it is unfortunate that we all are so far apart. One of the things about living in the so-called modern age I guess. It's a shame as no one I know shares the same interests as I do, or even takes an interest in the things I do for that matter. Weekends seem to be very long.

I hope I am not too long winded when I go on about my day and share the boring details of my little excursion.

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, May 5, 2014 5:33 AM

Yes, I totally agree with you Mike and Jim. We are like family here. And Jim, no one here thinks of you as being long winded.  We invite everyone to share their day.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, May 5, 2014 5:52 AM

Hi Everyone,

I spent the weekend shopping for carpet.  I compare it to shopping for a car.  All the different stores use their gimmicks to get you in and pull the old "switcheroo" on you.  Right now I will have both Lowes and Home Depot come here tomorrow to "measure" so that I can get a "real" price on the carpet.  Of course they both charge to "measure".  Even though I took great pains to provide measurements when I went to each store.  But the one I choose to go with will subtract the "measurement" fee if I choose to go with them.

Once that is done, then the carpet will be ordered.  Which they said can take up to two weeks.  Once it arrives, then the installers will arrange a time to come out and install the carpet.  Then I can start putting my "Man Cave" back together.

I went ahead and ordered the materials to reduce my cable bill.  I ordered a cable modem to replace the one I am currently "renting".  That alone will reduce my bill by $8.00 per month.

Next I ordered a Bluetooth gateway to replace my cable phone.  The way it works, it connects to my existing house phone system and allows me to use my wife's and my cell phone as the phone line.  We will be able to receive and make phone calls from our cell phones through the house phones.  That will save me about $35.00 per month.

And finally, I ordered an HDTV antenna along with all the parts necessary to make it work.  That will reduce my monthly cable bill by $140.50 per month.

The only thing left at that point will be my internet service.  And I will eliminate that when a new provider installs their equipment in my neighborhood which is scheduled for this October.  Bye bye Comcast!

Ken

  • Member since
    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Monday, May 5, 2014 9:04 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I spent the weekend shopping for carpet.  I compare it to shopping for a car.  All the different stores use their gimmicks to get you in and pull the old "switcheroo" on you.  Right now I will have both Lowes and Home Depot come here tomorrow to "measure" so that I can get a "real" price on the carpet.  Of course they both charge to "measure".  Even though I took great pains to provide measurements when I went to each store.  But the one I choose to go with will subtract the "measurement" fee if I choose to go with them.

Once that is done, then the carpet will be ordered.  Which they said can take up to two weeks.  Once it arrives, then the installers will arrange a time to come out and install the carpet.  Then I can start putting my "Man Cave" back together.

I went ahead and ordered the materials to reduce my cable bill.  I ordered a cable modem to replace the one I am currently "renting".  That alone will reduce my bill by $8.00 per month.

Next I ordered a Bluetooth gateway to replace my cable phone.  The way it works, it connects to my existing house phone system and allows me to use my wife's and my cell phone as the phone line.  We will be able to receive and make phone calls from our cell phones through the house phones.  That will save me about $35.00 per month.

And finally, I ordered an HDTV antenna along with all the parts necessary to make it work.  That will reduce my monthly cable bill by $140.50 per month.

The only thing left at that point will be my internet service.  And I will eliminate that when a new provider installs their equipment in my neighborhood which is scheduled for this October.  Bye bye Comcast!

Ken

It does sound  like the whole carpet thing is nearly as bad as buying a car! Whew! Exhausting! Glad the man-cave will be up and running soon!

I made a similar move a while back with my television. I was with direct TV and when the mobile home park I live in decided that we are a "multi-family" dwelling and could switch my billing to a provider out of Florida, I dropped the sat. TV. As it was, I was paying too much as it was because when I first subscribed, local channels were extra. Now days, local channels are part of the package but that is for new customers only! Old loyal customers get the shaft! New billing services, which were confusing, a dispute over what I saw a a duplication of a charge, and it was still Direct TV! Bye-Bye! That cut almost $100 from my budget!

I currently receive almost 60 over the air digital channels. Pare down the spanish language, shopping channels. and other nonsense and I have around 20 watchable channels to view. Granted, I can get sick of seeing old episodes of Bewitched and Hogans heroes. I'm not a huge TV viewer anyway, so I didn't miss much.

The living room TV is an old tube type set that can pick up the digital signals, just not the HD broadcasts. When the little TV died in the man-cave, its replacement is HDTV and many of the channels are offered in wide screen HD format. If I want to see a movie, there is always Red-box or the 5 dollar bin at Wal-mart.

My only phone is my cell phone.

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, May 5, 2014 7:20 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I spent the weekend shopping for carpet.  I compare it to shopping for a car.  All the different stores use their gimmicks to get you in and pull the old "switcheroo" on you.  Right now I will have both Lowes and Home Depot come here tomorrow to "measure" so that I can get a "real" price on the carpet.  Of course they both charge to "measure".  Even though I took great pains to provide measurements when I went to each store.  But the one I choose to go with will subtract the "measurement" fee if I choose to go with them.

Once that is done, then the carpet will be ordered.  Which they said can take up to two weeks.  Once it arrives, then the installers will arrange a time to come out and install the carpet.  Then I can start putting my "Man Cave" back together.

I went ahead and ordered the materials to reduce my cable bill.  I ordered a cable modem to replace the one I am currently "renting".  That alone will reduce my bill by $8.00 per month.

Next I ordered a Bluetooth gateway to replace my cable phone.  The way it works, it connects to my existing house phone system and allows me to use my wife's and my cell phone as the phone line.  We will be able to receive and make phone calls from our cell phones through the house phones.  That will save me about $35.00 per month.

And finally, I ordered an HDTV antenna along with all the parts necessary to make it work.  That will reduce my monthly cable bill by $140.50 per month.

The only thing left at that point will be my internet service.  And I will eliminate that when a new provider installs their equipment in my neighborhood which is scheduled for this October.  Bye bye Comcast!

Ken

It's a stressful process but I'm glad to see you're making headway, Ken. You stirred some interesting questions:

  • Your cable company will allow you to use your own cable modem?
  • Using your bluetooth setup, you will only be able to use your cell phones through it when your're at home?
  • Your HDTV antenna - you have wireless TV's, or antenna adapters?
  • You're eliminating your internet service? Or do you mean you're eliminating Comcast and replacing it with another service?

Toast

Russ 

 

 

  • Member since
    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 1:11 AM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I spent the weekend shopping for carpet.  I compare it to shopping for a car.  All the different stores use their gimmicks to get you in and pull the old "switcheroo" on you.  Right now I will have both Lowes and Home Depot come here tomorrow to "measure" so that I can get a "real" price on the carpet.  Of course they both charge to "measure".  Even though I took great pains to provide measurements when I went to each store.  But the one I choose to go with will subtract the "measurement" fee if I choose to go with them.

Once that is done, then the carpet will be ordered.  Which they said can take up to two weeks.  Once it arrives, then the installers will arrange a time to come out and install the carpet.  Then I can start putting my "Man Cave" back together.

I went ahead and ordered the materials to reduce my cable bill.  I ordered a cable modem to replace the one I am currently "renting".  That alone will reduce my bill by $8.00 per month.

Next I ordered a Bluetooth gateway to replace my cable phone.  The way it works, it connects to my existing house phone system and allows me to use my wife's and my cell phone as the phone line.  We will be able to receive and make phone calls from our cell phones through the house phones.  That will save me about $35.00 per month.

And finally, I ordered an HDTV antenna along with all the parts necessary to make it work.  That will reduce my monthly cable bill by $140.50 per month.

The only thing left at that point will be my internet service.  And I will eliminate that when a new provider installs their equipment in my neighborhood which is scheduled for this October.  Bye bye Comcast!

Ken

It's a stressful process but I'm glad to see you're making headway, Ken. You stirred some interesting questions:

  • Your cable company will allow you to use your own cable modem?
  • Using your bluetooth setup, you will only be able to use your cell phones through it when your're at home?
  • Your HDTV antenna - you have wireless TV's, or antenna adapters?
  • You're eliminating your internet service? Or do you mean you're eliminating Comcast and replacing it with another service?

Toast

Russ 

 

If I understand correctly, the house phones would act as an extension of the cell phone? You'll have to let me know how that works out.

Also, just an FYI Russ, I get over the air reception of HDTV through a standard antennae and wiring. The big TV (tube) can only process the standard digital signal with the low resolution picture, but it will tune in all the channels. My little TV in the man cave is a 19" class HDTV, (Flat screen) with the wide screen picture and high def signal. No special equipment needed unless you have a television that is unable to tune the digital signal.

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

  • Member since
    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:10 AM

Hello again all!

Just a few progress photos, or in some cases, anti-progress....

There is a danger in working two projects at once-you might get the colors mixed between the two: I painted the color of the Phantom on the splitter!

Now I need to strip and repaint the splitter plates. I don't want to paint over it as it already appears a little on the thick side.

I also been painting up details: red for those brake doors and Metalizer for the bare metal areas. I chose Stainless steel, but when I opened the bottle, there was a thick layer of nothing but sludge in the bottom. I was able to resuscitate enough to spray by adding thinner, some glass beads for agitators, and vigorous shaking. When I was done, the remainder went into the trash.

I did do some experimentation as the metallic tail section was too stark for me, so I tried a wash with water, acrylic artist paint and a few drops of dishsoap. After drying I wiped away the excess with a cotton ball and a little (ew!) saliva. I was going for subtle and think it came out ok. You can see my seam work here was not perfect, but it is on the bottom, and not likely to be noticed.

I also put some wash on the afterburner pipes to accent the lines:

I sure seem to be doing a lot of work for an out of box kit build.....

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:59 AM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I spent the weekend shopping for carpet.  I compare it to shopping for a car.  All the different stores use their gimmicks to get you in and pull the old "switcheroo" on you.  Right now I will have both Lowes and Home Depot come here tomorrow to "measure" so that I can get a "real" price on the carpet.  Of course they both charge to "measure".  Even though I took great pains to provide measurements when I went to each store.  But the one I choose to go with will subtract the "measurement" fee if I choose to go with them.

Once that is done, then the carpet will be ordered.  Which they said can take up to two weeks.  Once it arrives, then the installers will arrange a time to come out and install the carpet.  Then I can start putting my "Man Cave" back together.

I went ahead and ordered the materials to reduce my cable bill.  I ordered a cable modem to replace the one I am currently "renting".  That alone will reduce my bill by $8.00 per month.

Next I ordered a Bluetooth gateway to replace my cable phone.  The way it works, it connects to my existing house phone system and allows me to use my wife's and my cell phone as the phone line.  We will be able to receive and make phone calls from our cell phones through the house phones.  That will save me about $35.00 per month.

And finally, I ordered an HDTV antenna along with all the parts necessary to make it work.  That will reduce my monthly cable bill by $140.50 per month.

The only thing left at that point will be my internet service.  And I will eliminate that when a new provider installs their equipment in my neighborhood which is scheduled for this October.  Bye bye Comcast!

Ken

It's a stressful process but I'm glad to see you're making headway, Ken. You stirred some interesting questions:

  • Your cable company will allow you to use your own cable modem?
  • Using your bluetooth setup, you will only be able to use your cell phones through it when your're at home?
  • Your HDTV antenna - you have wireless TV's, or antenna adapters?
  • You're eliminating your internet service? Or do you mean you're eliminating Comcast and replacing it with another service?

Toast

Russ 

 

Hi Russ,

Here is the answers to your questions:

    - Yes, the cable company will allow you to use your own cable modem.

    - Yes, the home phones will only work when I (or my wife) is home with our cell phones.  But you won't miss any calls because you will have the cell phone with you.  The home phones will be using the same telephone number(s) that is for your cell phone(s).

    - The HDTV antenna will be connected via a coax cable to each TV, no wireless.  If the TV is not already digital, then an digital adapter will be required.

    - I am currently getting all three services (phone, TV, and internet) through the cable company (Comcast).  The phone will be the first to go when I get the Bluetooth gateway for our cell phones.  The TV service will be next when I have installed the HDTV antenna along with the required cabling.  This will give me the most savings.  I am predicting that I will get up to 13 channels of free "Over The Air" (OTA) TV stations.  I am keeping the internet service for now.  But another company is installing service here in Lafayette, Indiana.  Their name is Metronet.  They will be in direct competition with Comcast.  And they are cheaper but have better service.  They are scheduled to be in my area this October.  When they do, I will switch over to them and then I can completely cancel Comcast.

Ken

  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:01 AM

jimbot58

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I spent the weekend shopping for carpet.  I compare it to shopping for a car.  All the different stores use their gimmicks to get you in and pull the old "switcheroo" on you.  Right now I will have both Lowes and Home Depot come here tomorrow to "measure" so that I can get a "real" price on the carpet.  Of course they both charge to "measure".  Even though I took great pains to provide measurements when I went to each store.  But the one I choose to go with will subtract the "measurement" fee if I choose to go with them.

Once that is done, then the carpet will be ordered.  Which they said can take up to two weeks.  Once it arrives, then the installers will arrange a time to come out and install the carpet.  Then I can start putting my "Man Cave" back together.

I went ahead and ordered the materials to reduce my cable bill.  I ordered a cable modem to replace the one I am currently "renting".  That alone will reduce my bill by $8.00 per month.

Next I ordered a Bluetooth gateway to replace my cable phone.  The way it works, it connects to my existing house phone system and allows me to use my wife's and my cell phone as the phone line.  We will be able to receive and make phone calls from our cell phones through the house phones.  That will save me about $35.00 per month.

And finally, I ordered an HDTV antenna along with all the parts necessary to make it work.  That will reduce my monthly cable bill by $140.50 per month.

The only thing left at that point will be my internet service.  And I will eliminate that when a new provider installs their equipment in my neighborhood which is scheduled for this October.  Bye bye Comcast!

Ken

It's a stressful process but I'm glad to see you're making headway, Ken. You stirred some interesting questions:

  • Your cable company will allow you to use your own cable modem?
  • Using your bluetooth setup, you will only be able to use your cell phones through it when your're at home?
  • Your HDTV antenna - you have wireless TV's, or antenna adapters?
  • You're eliminating your internet service? Or do you mean you're eliminating Comcast and replacing it with another service?

Toast

Russ 

 

If I understand correctly, the house phones would act as an extension of the cell phone? You'll have to let me know how that works out.

Also, just an FYI Russ, I get over the air reception of HDTV through a standard antennae and wiring. The big TV (tube) can only process the standard digital signal with the low resolution picture, but it will tune in all the channels. My little TV in the man cave is a 19" class HDTV, (Flat screen) with the wide screen picture and high def signal. No special equipment needed unless you have a television that is unable to tune the digital signal.

Jim

Hi Jim,

Yes you are correct on all counts!

Ken

  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:04 AM

jimbot58

Hello again all!

Just a few progress photos, or in some cases, anti-progress....

There is a danger in working two projects at once-you might get the colors mixed between the two: I painted the color of the Phantom on the splitter!

Now I need to strip and repaint the splitter plates. I don't want to paint over it as it already appears a little on the thick side.

I also been painting up details: red for those brake doors and Metalizer for the bare metal areas. I chose Stainless steel, but when I opened the bottle, there was a thick layer of nothing but sludge in the bottom. I was able to resuscitate enough to spray by adding thinner, some glass beads for agitators, and vigorous shaking. When I was done, the remainder went into the trash.

I did do some experimentation as the metallic tail section was too stark for me, so I tried a wash with water, acrylic artist paint and a few drops of dishsoap. After drying I wiped away the excess with a cotton ball and a little (ew!) saliva. I was going for subtle and think it came out ok. You can see my seam work here was not perfect, but it is on the bottom, and not likely to be noticed.

I also put some wash on the afterburner pipes to accent the lines:

I sure seem to be doing a lot of work for an out of box kit build.....

Jim

Outstanding work there Jim!  (As always!)  The wash really makes the detail pop!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:24 AM

Jim: Gee hate to see you going back to redo stuff since it all looks so good like that!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:33 AM

jimbot58

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Also, just an FYI Russ, I get over the air reception of HDTV through a standard antennae and wiring. The big TV (tube) can only process the standard digital signal with the low resolution picture, but it will tune in all the channels. My little TV in the man cave is a 19" class HDTV, (Flat screen) with the wide screen picture and high def signal. No special equipment needed unless you have a television that is unable to tune the digital signal.

Jim

Thanks, Jim, I didn't know that.

Russ

 

 

 

  • Member since
    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:41 AM

That really is looking nice, Jim - you have a flair for bringing out detail. How you keep everything so neat and clean at that scale?

Russ

 

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