Bf-109: Reich Defender GB The End

ALrighty then here are the first pics from my Fujimi G-6.  Iam using an Eduard color set that is made for the Hasegawa kit but the Fujimi kit is not much different. Hope you like. I added the fuel line and some wiring on the right side console.  It is too obvious to leave out.

Nice looking progress John!

I used Stan's technique for the oxygen hose, don't know the exact guage wire I used, pretty much went with the "TLAR" method!

Ran into a little snag with the Hasegawa cockpit.  The Oxygen regulator's mounting point places it almost directly on the floor, leaving no room for the pilot's supply hose to exit from the bottom.  Also, Hasegawa molds a little box for the guages to fit into, and the instructions show them properly angled upwards slightly, but molded the mounting lug so that the guages actually point down to the floor (the photo shows mounted how Hasegawa intends them to be).  Not a big deal, just need to relocate the mounting points to raise the regulator off of the floor to make room for the hose, and relocate the guages so that they face properly. 

Stan- I have seen photos of a restored cockpit with the hose being what appears to be a simple rubber hose.  It's end is usually hanging in a bracket mounted on the sidewall.  I don't see room to put a bracket in the kit cockpit, and I see you mounted yours hanging on the fuel line.  DOn't know if that would work on the 1/32 kit cokpit.  Any other ideas how to mount it's end?

Hi all,

There's some stupendous work going on here already! Frank, that cockpit looks sweet, as do the other 1:32s happening here! I will absolutely be doing the big 32s one day.

Maybe I'm going blind, but there's no way a 1:48 cockpit is ever going to particularly resemble the real thing I've seen either in restoration photos of the superdetailed 1:32 masterpieces to be seen on the web, so I've decided not to even try being clever. The pit will be OOB, and I sprayed it today with a mixed equivalent to RLM 66. Tonight I drybrushed it and picked out a few details, and am now assembling a few parts. I'll take a shot at the IP decal and have hopes it'll take. A little bare metal in the pit and I'll be ready to move on. Photos coming possibly tomorrow!

Cheers,

Mike

Those are some nice pits there John and Frank. I'm plugging away on my Fujimi K-4. They did me the favor of predrilling the holes for the wing mounted rocket tubes for the G-6 version that is one of the build options. Had to take all of the mounting brackets and glue them into the holes then cut the rest of the bracket off flush to fill the hole. What were they thinking!? Have'nt they heard of moulding the holes closed with guide dimples on the back of the part? Oh well now I have to spend some time trying to mate the two separate cowl halves without leaving any gaps or edges sticking out. I thing some guide tabs should do the trick.

                                                                              Soulcrusher

OK, just the kit supplied basic cockpit assembled here. No add-ons. I am looking at getting some painting done tomorrow. At least the base colors.

Certainly no "wow!" factor here compared to the others.

Frank, I've seen them thrown along side the seat, draped over the regulator, and stuffed under the fuel line. I actually didn't build the one on the cockpit side panel. That's from a resin true details set. It's molded on there. You can do run in up and around the cocpit ventilator ( the square thing with the round thing in the center. make it look like it's hanging there.

you are right  the hasegawa kit's are tight in that area. I just run the oxyen line down as far as I can and glue it in place. Once the pit is together you won't be able to tell. BTW couldn't have done a better job on that oxygen line if I tried, looks great frank

Tempesthjohnny, that looks great. Color can look real good if you can blend it in well. It looks like you got it well in hand.

stikpusher wrote:

OK, just the kit supplied basic cockpit assembled here. No add-ons. I am looking at getting some painting done tomorrow. At least the base colors. Certainly no "wow!" factor here compared to the others.

I've done many out of box 109's. just becasue it's don't have a any extras dosn't mean anything. A well painted OOB cockpit can look pretty nice. one of my favorite 109 is built completely OOB. My favorite had only a couple mostly scratch built add on's.

1/32 haegawa G-14 cockpit. 4 add on's . PE set belts, throttle, gun sight wire and canopy hold. Other than that OOB.

external, just the radio antenna.

Got moving some tonight. I've modified the kit around the exhaust on the left side. I should have taken a "before" pic.

After looking at the gun troughs and doing some reading I decided to deepen them. I removed the kit trough.

And added my own trough made from styrene tube.

Some fairing in with Mr. S. 500 then repeat for the other side.

I decided to forego the kit decals and ordered Eagle decals #48252 In Defense of the Reich today. Now I need to stall cutting the tail for the tall version until I get the decals. I don't want to cut it if the G-14 in the set is a short tail. I guess that's it for now.

Excellent work hk!  Looks like you're going to town on yours. 

Stan- Thank you!  I removed the offending details today, so I can relocate them tomorrow.  Should make a big difference. 

Here is my question...Since this is 1st 1/48 for me. I want to cut flaps and put them in lower position. Looks to me that will be some gap (right)? How do I cover that? I hope this make seance what I'm asking hehehehe.

Gumiflex

Hey all, im here at last. You guys have started without me. How mean. LOL As i expected, theres some seriously good stuff going on. Its taken half an hour to re-read everything.

Stan, i see on yours your closing the rear doors up? Are you doing an 'Inflight' model?

I like the oxygen tube idea, Very nice. Ive also seen the convoluted type (Like a Vacuum cleaner pie) Ive also seen te type that looks like its made of smooth rubber. Are they both ok? Or is the smooth type a retro fit?

...Guy

P.s im going to look on Google.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk037_Me-109_G-10/part2/walk037b.htm

Late mark 109 cockpits are a bit of a rarety on the net, but... I found this beauty. Think its a G-10 but might be a later mark.

...Guy

A lot of great work going on guy's. I love them all. I am getting some good ideas on how to spruce up my old revell cockpit ( thanks for the photos Guy ). I am doing the same kit as stick so its pretty simple and basic. So one last question on the right side panell. On the G-10 there should be a yellow fuel line towards the top and then the oxygen line below it. Did I get that right ?. If all goes well I will work on this tonight.

Steve

Gumiflex- I'm not sure I understand.  Perhaps someone else here has an idea?

Guy- Sorry, mate!  If you hadn't taken so long on the Weekend Madness GB, you might have been able to start with us!  LOL...   Great photos BTW, interesting arrangement of equipment there on the right side.  Have never seen the Oxygen guages mounted like that before.

Steve- You are correct!

I have a question...

Does anyone have a good photo of the gunsight for a G-10?  The latest one I can find a good photo of is in a G-6, but I think the G-10 had a different one.  Also, cannot find a good reference photo showing where on the IP the wire from the gunsight connects.  All of them seem to show the IP from the left, and the gunsight blocks the view of where to connect the wire.

Frank I located the Eagle Cal yellow 2 so I snaged a set. I'm kinda digging the white 44 night fighter to.

Thad

Gumiflex wrote:

Here is my question...Since this is 1st 1/48 for me. I want to cut flaps and put them in lower position. Looks to me that will be some gap (right)? How do I cover that? I hope this make seance what I'm asking hehehehe. Gumiflex

You can plug the gap left in the wing with some styrene strip, just set it back a little to leave an upper and lower lip on the rear of the wing.

On the front face of the flap add a piece of half round styrene to recreate more of an aerofoil section.

Hope that makes sense.

Karl

Thanks Karl, that is exaclty what I need.

Gumiflex 

Like Kj200 said no gap but there is a step down. This is usually dirty 02.

phoenix7187 wrote:

As far as the oxygen hose goes I mostly see the vacuum clearner type. I'm actually not sure about the smooth hose.

What! Say it isn't sooooo!  I don't believe it!

 I been researching all day. Trying to figure out if the G-10 and K-4 had different pit layouts or if the G-10 was a German Kitbash of older types to get them to a a K standard. Went back reread the whole thread and saved lotsa pics. My mind is reeling! Seems I have heard that pit question before regarding the G-10 vs the K but I can't find it.

 I think all the WIP pics have left me stupified!  All I can say is wow fellows.

yah you guys got me there, don't have that info on tap. I'm Not suprised, I learn new things about 109 all the time.  I'm still on ther hunt for that K-4 canopy info. I know I read it somewhere

Frank, all K-4's and G-10 would have used the revi 16B gun sight. I don't have good pic on right now on hand. The plug in was directly under the gun sight. The wire came out of the side of the sight and made a tight loop under it where it plugged into the IP. I'll hunt one up this weekend. 

Thanks Stan!  You know, I dunno how you're gonna have time to model a 109 with all of my reference questions!

I found this site with some great shots of a NIB Revi 16B:

Revi 16B

Finally have some progress that worth showing. This is the Revell Germany version of the G-10. Not much detail or parts for that matter in this kit. I also have the revell usa and monogram kits and I might just build all three of them. This kit has a choice of markings for black 11 of II/JG 27 which I am building and an all RLM 76 of III/JG 1. I have never seen a 109 in all one colour and must admit I am facinated by it and I like the decal option so it will be built also. Here is where I am so far. Just now put the fuselage together. I used Mike Grant instruments for the IP, the kit was horrible. I am also using Eduard belts.

I am still looking for an oxegyn hose to finish the pit. Thanks for looking and all comments appreciated.

Steve

phoenix7187 wrote:

Espins That looks real nice. I plan on doing that in 1/24 scale trumpy kit. I hope I can pull it off.  You did a great job marbling the temp white paint. The only 2 things I see is the canopy should be the base color as these were usually not painted in the temp white and the stenciling would have been under the white.

Thanks and sorry it took me so long to get to this.  Paint schemes and configurations for Bf109 aircraft, especially later in the war is a veritable mine field as there are so many variations and exceptions. 

It was hard finding actual photos of Hartmann's whitewashed Bf 109G-14 (or -6 depending on who captioned the photo or profile amongst all the 109 books available).  If you take a look at this first image which is an actual photo of Hartmann's white washed aircraft when he temporarily served as the Commandant of JG53 you can clearly see that at a very minimum the front framing of the windscreen is in fact white.  You can partially see the inside of the framing from the open canopy just above the front windscreen which is RLM66 the standard dark gray for the interior at the time.  From everything I've read, this particular aircraft was meticulously prepared for the arrival of their new commander so I made a judgement call and put some of the stenciling over the white.        

While it was much more common for the canopy framing not to have been painted white  it certainly wasn't the "standard".  The winter schemes were painted in the field so you'll see many many variations upon examining photos.  Here are some examples:

These two clearly do not have white paint on the framing and does appear to be the most common variation.

In this example the aircraft in the foreground has no white on the canopy framing but does have white painted on the framing of the windscreen.  The framing on the aircraft in the background appears to be completely painted white.

This one has the framing around the windscreen painted white, but not the rest of the canopy.

These two examples clearly show the canopy framing completely painted in white.