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Dive Bomber Group Build (May 1 - Dec 31 2009)

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  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Friday, May 8, 2009 4:40 AM

Well picked up an AMtech 1/48 Hs-123A today, updated version of an old ESCI kit with resin cockpit included, so thats what I'll be doing. Since she served well on the eastern front I thought I might do her with unspatted landing gear and if I get find a decent reference shot (or shots) done up in a winter cammo. (any help would be great)

 might make a little hs logo to Smile [:)]

KW

 

Am a little scared doing the canopy painting, could be too much detailBig Smile [:D]

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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Monday, May 11, 2009 7:03 PM
I got only a couple of hours at the bench over the weekend - building a new wooden playset in the back yard for my daughter takes priority.  I basically managed to finish construction of all major components and fill the seams, of which there were only a few.  Tonight I started sanding but ahead of me lies the most daunting and least favorite part of this kind of build - masking the canopy.  I could not find a canopy mask intended for this particular version of the Stuka, so I've resigned myself to having to mask all those tiny little "glass" panels.
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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:16 AM

I'll get around to finding a carrier bird as well,but put me down for an Airfix 1/72 Junkers JU-87B/R.I knew I had something in the stash that would suffice!I'm not looking forward to that canopy however!

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    May 2009
  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:06 PM

Well since GB's are supposed to be about sharing advice along the way, I'll post this here before I try else where. THis is my first time really working with resins, I have built resin figures but they havnt required much clean up, whats the best way to remove large areas from around the parts?

The smaller one I figure just carefully trim away as one might with plastic (but a bit more careful). I tried using a grinder attachment from my engaving tool to remove a large block from the bottom of the seat, while it was ok it was slow going. I am on the right track here or is there better ways to remove large blocks or similar large areas?

 

KW

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:43 PM
I got started on that Stuka this morning.I must admit I feel like a fish out of water.

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    June 2008
Posted by lewbud on Friday, May 15, 2009 10:56 AM
 Konigwolf13 wrote:

Well since GB's are supposed to be about sharing advice along the way, I'll post this here before I try else where. THis is my first time really working with resins, I have built resin figures but they havnt required much clean up, whats the best way to remove large areas from around the parts?

The smaller one I figure just carefully trim away as one might with plastic (but a bit more careful). I tried using a grinder attachment from my engaving tool to remove a large block from the bottom of the seat, while it was ok it was slow going. I am on the right track here or is there better ways to remove large blocks or similar large areas?

 

KW

Two words-Razor Saw.  Makes quick work of the pour stubs, allows you cut fairly close so clean up is a lot easier.  Plus you don't have to breathe in all that resin dust (nasty stuff I'm told) as you grind it off.  These can be found at just about any hobby shop or craft store.  If that doesn't work or the shape doesn't allow it, you can use the back of a x-acto blade and score the area like you were cutting thick plastic, then snap off the pour stub.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by lewbud on Friday, May 15, 2009 10:59 AM

 TD4438 wrote:
I got started on that Stuka this morning.I must admit I feel like a fish out of water.

You can do it TD.  Just like building a TIE Fighter, only different.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, May 15, 2009 5:36 PM
Aggieman I can confirm my kit, it will be the Italeri Ju-88A-4. Not sure when i will be starting, but will get some pics up once i do.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TD4438 on Friday, May 15, 2009 6:49 PM
 lewbud wrote:

 TD4438 wrote:
I got started on that Stuka this morning.I must admit I feel like a fish out of water.

You can do it TD.  Just like building a TIE Fighter, only different.

The biggest PITA is that I'm unfamiliar with accurate a/c colors.I also have to do some digging to find out what an Italian Stuka pilot's flightsuit looked like.Did they use German gear as well?

Anybody involved in the SW GB knows by now I can crank out TIE fighters kinda quick.I've also cranked out a couple TIE Pilot costumes.Here's one I made for the wife.

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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Friday, May 15, 2009 8:42 PM

^

I would guess that an Italian pilot probably did not use German gear but I stand to be corrected on that matter.

I've made what appears to be significant progress on my own Stuka, putting down the entire paint scheme this afternoon.  But there is still a lot of work ahead of me in additional detail painting (tires, wheels, guns, etc), weathering what at this point appears as a pristine Nazi splinter camouflage job, and dealing with the canopy paint job.

I didn't photograph the painted canopy pieces as right now they are nothing more than black-green pieces.  I masked with a liquid masking solution I have had for a while now, last time I used it was on another Junkers aircraft, the big Ju52 I built about 4 years ago.  I don't know what to expect out of this effort but I'm hoping that this stuff still works.  If not I guess I'll be purchasing a canopy set.

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Posted by TD4438 on Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:52 AM
I'm shooting for a nice paint scheme with a bit of weathering.With no LHS available,I'm kinda forced to use what colors I have on hand.This Stuka will not be super accurate,but I hope it comes out nice.I'll be shooting the base coat as soon as I'm done goofing around here.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by TD4438 on Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:21 AM

Damn!Haven't goofed like this in years!

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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:21 PM

^

Yack!  Hate it when something like that happens!  I ran into several areas of paint lifting while completing this splinter scheme, which really annoyed me at the time.

Today - after the yard work was done - I managed to get the national insignia decals on, leaving the stencils and other such decals for later, and scraped away the masking from the canopy pieces.  I was pleasantly surprised that the masking still works, and I feel that I did a decent job with the framing.  Although the picture does show an area that needs a bit more attention.

The glistening on the decals is the decal setting solution, so hopefully some of those imperfections will settle in.  If not, more solution will be in order.  And from there it's on to weathering.

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    July 2005
  • From: Dayton, Ohio
Posted by warhorse3 on Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:57 PM
Finally back after having to have a very dangerous Trojan removed from the computer. The pics I had wanted to post were lost in this episode. Adding insult to that injury, somehow the infamous carpet monster ran off with part of one of the crew figures so I'm having to make a new one. Until the crew is installed, I won't be closing the fuselage. While I'm waiting for the resin to cure, I'll be working on the engine and prop. I'm going to take clear sprue cut to the same length as the blades and heat it, then flatten it into a rough blade shape. Once formed, I'll drybrush them to just hint at the colors for a propblur effect.                    Welcome to all who have joined in. Looks like you're really flying along on your Stuka, Aggieman.
Regards, Bill
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:11 AM
Made a start of the 88 last night, i am fitting an Aires resin cockpit, should have it painted and weathered by Tues and then i can get the fuselage halves together. I will get some pics taken as i go on during the week and try to post them next weekend.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:25 AM
Aggie, I have a long term project of an old Monogram 1/48 SBD I have been dressing up over the years. Much of the major assembly is done but with all the mods (modified cockpit, drilled out dive flaps, replaced engine, propellor, and numerous other mods) I have made (or planned), it is still quite some time from completion. You did not specify if it has to be a new build to join here in  your ground rules. Any chance I can jump on in with mine.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, May 17, 2009 4:47 PM
Sure, welcome aboard!
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:37 PM
Cool! I will add my old SBD to your GB.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:01 PM

what up guys,

i'll be starting my val in the near future.

i'm waiting for a p.e. kit and some masks then i'll be ready to go.

great looking builds going on so far.

 

jason.

  if you want permission for a test flight.... the answer is "no".

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, May 18, 2009 6:21 AM

Current progress.

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, May 18, 2009 12:15 PM

Couple shots of the crew.I'm very happy with these results so far.I'd like to add a spot of color if possible.I'd appreciate any advice.

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:31 PM

Current progress.

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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:29 PM

Nice work TD.  Looking forward to seeing more (and how your Stuka stacks up against mine, not that anyone is scoring points here...)

On that note I got a little time at the bench tonight and was able to do an initial layer of weathering.  Weathering is so so so easy to over-do but most of the time I feel that I get the look I aim at.  Some of my work has been over-done though, most notably according to some on here my Ju 88 that I completed a couple of years ago, so I'm intentionally attempting to tone it down with the Stuka.  So far I think I have accomplished this goal (pictures will be forthcoming) but I really don't like to do my builds as if they are right off the factory floor - given that these were war machines operating out of quite often muddy, dirty fields where appearance was not always the primary factor for ground crews.

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    June 2008
Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:22 PM
 TD4438 wrote:

Current progress.

TD,

Nice work so far. 

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:45 PM

Thanks guys.BTW,how does one go about weathering an a/c?I plan on adding a bit of rust color to the exhausts (which are curently painted black) and some exhaust residue on the sides of the cowling/fuselage.Also maybe some chipped paint on the leading edge of the wings.A little dirt on the landing gear wouldn't hurt either.

As for the overall body of the a/c,I'm clueless.

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    January 2015
  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:16 PM

As for the weathering, I look for places where oil or other fluids might pool and leak, and then get blown away in the slipstream (I think that's the word I'm looking for).  Exhaust staining and gun stains are a must, as is paint chipping.  I nearly always make my models look dirty via earth-tone pastels, Tamiya weathering pastels, etc - I go after the tires and wheel wells and I will often go for the look of dried mud swept across the underside of an aircraft.

On the top side, I have often tried to vary painting among panels to depict sun fading or perhaps in-the-field repair jobs (pirating panels from non-functional aircraft to repair damaged parts on functional birds, for instance).

With my Stuka, I purposefully toned down the dirty look, but it's still gonna be a dirty warbird. 

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:04 AM
Thanks.Got a pic or two you could post for illustration?

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    January 2015
  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:24 PM

Yeah sure!

Ju-88

Do-217

F4U-1A Corsair

Hawker Hurricane

P-36

F7F Tigercat

P-61 Black Widow

B-26 Marauder

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    March 2006
Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:20 PM
Thanks.I guess a/c's get pretty funky too!This will help greatly.

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