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Dive Bomber Group Build (May 1 - Dec 31 2009)

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  • From: Hatboro, PA
Posted by Justinryan215 on Sunday, June 7, 2009 8:21 PM

I have pics coming, but my Stuka's flight crew is painted, sparse cockpit installed, the fuselage is assembled with all of the seams filled and sanded, and the wings have been installed.

So far, aside from sparse detail, the kit is going together fairly well, with minimal flash, although someof the sprue trees are a bit thick where they join to the model. 

My Testors Dauntless is moving along nicely as well, with next to no detail in the 'pit, Ihave the fuse halves joined, and the one piece wings assembled, withany root seams filled and sanded and ready for a second coat of primer.

 

Justin

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Monday, June 8, 2009 2:08 PM

Here is a bunch of progress pics...

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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  • From: Hatboro, PA
Posted by Justinryan215 on Monday, June 8, 2009 2:14 PM

Some pics of the Dauntless:

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, June 8, 2009 11:28 PM
Nice progress so far.Can't wait to see these done.

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 2:45 AM

Mike,

Good looking Vindicator!  How did you do the tail?  I've got to do that effect on a Wildcat.  Did you just mist coats of blue, or is it a series of very thin coats?

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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  • From: Saratoga Springs, NY
Posted by Jeeves on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:31 AM
Its actually the kit decal-- AM does a pretty good job on their Vindicator and Dauntless kits of recreating the painted over red and white areas and the red dot on the insignia as well...
Mike
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Posted by modelbuilder12 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:53 PM
I am interested, I will build a 1/32 scale Revell Germany Stuka.  The seatbelts are aftermarket and the guns are taken from another kit.
MODELBUILDER12 "If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter -- and therefore, unsafe."-Unknown "Tyrants have always some slight shade of virtue; they support the laws before destroying them." -Voltaire "Aim towards the Enemy." -Instruction printed on US Rocket Launcher
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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:37 AM
Would a Hawker Typhoon be considered a dive-bomber,or just ground attack?

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:02 PM
All of the main assembly is finished for the Stuka, almost ready for paint, just need to finish sanding a couple of seams, and off to the booth she goes...

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:16 PM

Would a Hawker Typhoon be considered a dive-bomber,or just ground attack?

I know the Typhoon was designed as a fighter but proved its worth as a ground attack.  I'm not sure that would include the dive bombing role, though.  They may have been able to fix bombs to hard points on the wings but the Typhoon did not have a trapeze as found on many dive bombers, nor did it have dive brakes to my knowledge.

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Posted by modelbuilder12 on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:54 PM
What is the badge hosting site???
MODELBUILDER12 "If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter -- and therefore, unsafe."-Unknown "Tyrants have always some slight shade of virtue; they support the laws before destroying them." -Voltaire "Aim towards the Enemy." -Instruction printed on US Rocket Launcher
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  • From: League City, Texas
Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:25 PM

 Hello fellows. Been following along with intrest. Over at the FAA GB I have been struggling with an interesting pair. The Special Hobby 1/48 Roc and Skua. Both these birds were used as dive bombers and fighters. The Skua really reminds me of a Dauntless and has been compared to it and the Jap Val.

Thought you may like to see some progress as these are tough kits to get together and something not so commonly built.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Slowly but surely getting there!  Been working about 3 weeks on them.  Doing some PE stuff and arming them up!  Thanks for looking!Bow [bow]

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:13 PM

The badge hosting site is Photobucket.  Generally I think everyone copies these to their own accounts, but you're welcome to use this one.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/Aggieman/Models/DauntlessGB.jpg

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:14 PM

Aaron,

your Skua and Roc are looking good.  Those are seldom seen subjects to be sure.  Do you want to enter them into this GB?

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  • From: League City, Texas
Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:18 PM
 Aggieman wrote:

Aaron,

your Skua and Roc are looking good.  Those are seldom seen subjects to be sure.  Do you want to enter them into this GB?

If you think them and I worthy I would be happy to jump in. Looks like a great bunch of fellows! Can you stand another Texan? Wink [;)] They do qualify as They were started after May 1st.

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Posted by modelbuilder12 on Friday, June 12, 2009 5:19 PM

Thanks,

This is my Stuka progress...

 

 

MODELBUILDER12 "If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter -- and therefore, unsafe."-Unknown "Tyrants have always some slight shade of virtue; they support the laws before destroying them." -Voltaire "Aim towards the Enemy." -Instruction printed on US Rocket Launcher
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Posted by modelbuilder12 on Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:50 PM
Good job sfcmac!
MODELBUILDER12 "If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter -- and therefore, unsafe."-Unknown "Tyrants have always some slight shade of virtue; they support the laws before destroying them." -Voltaire "Aim towards the Enemy." -Instruction printed on US Rocket Launcher
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  • From: Hatboro, PA
Posted by Justinryan215 on Monday, June 15, 2009 1:15 PM

Here are some shots of my Stuka, fresh Splinter Camo...waiting for a coat for future. 

I freehand drew the masks for thecamo pattern, which took forever, but with being laid off, I cant really spend any money, so you gotta do what you gotta do!

I am still debating on whether ornot I want to give it a winter camo wash over top...

 

Justin

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, June 15, 2009 4:15 PM
Lookin' good.Another Stuka for the Squadron.Can't wait to see this finished.

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:10 PM

 Great looking pair of Stukas fellows! One wicked looking aircraft! 

Thanks so much for letting me include the FAA builds here!

The 1/48 scale Special Hobby kits of the Blackburn Skua and Roc are getting called done. Both these aircraft were meant to and indeed served along side each other during probably the darkest time in FAA history.  Scorned for their lack of performance they were victims of flawed tactics and the assumption that Ships could fight off air attack with their AAA. Also being designed during the depression as multirolled jack of all trades for budget reasons.

 

 

Still  The Skua earned an intense loyalty from her crews and given the smaller production numbers when compared to other types just makes it's feats all the more outstanding to me. The first Enemy aircraft of the war a Do-18 was shot down by the Skua.  On Apr 10th 1940 ,The German cruiser Konigsburg Was sunk by an attack of 11 divebombing Skua's at their maximum range. 3 direct hits and 5 near misses with no dive bombing training due to the prewar economy.

 

 

 

This is how I represented my Skua in triumph. Because all the kit options for markings represnt them at the time such an attack was repeated on the Scarnhorst where 15 aircraft were lost with no result as the Germans had learned their lesson.  All kit markings are of aircraft lost in this ill fated raid.

 

 

 The pressing need for long range fighters ended the Skua's divebombing career and many heroic battles were fought by remarkably brave and resourceful crews. It is so often noted how many of the best of them were lost, but man what a fight they gave!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reading up on the trials and handicaps these early FAA crews had to endure and overcome is unreal. The only radio they had was morse code. No voice coms between aircraft at all!  Still they achieved so much.

 

 

 The Roc was sound enough but far to slow in performance to actually catch the enemy aircraft. Can't shoot what you can't catch up too so the fighting career of the Roc was limited to only one kill and one maybe.

 However again it had a redesigned wing to cure stability problems found in the Skua which made it extremely stable and accurate in a dive bomb.  This was only really noted during the Evacuation at Dunkirk where in desparate moments the Rocs armed with pairs of 250lb bombs attacked and diverted  German ground forces pressing in. The quad .303's proved to be a nasty surprise for German fighters who steered clear of the low flying Roc's.   A lot of credit was given to the ROc here but not widely hailed as it was supposed to be a fighter!  The Admiralty being strictly by the book wanted it used as a fighter! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Took a very long time for them to accept a turreted fighter concept was not practical. Even the Firefly had originally been conceived as having a turreted counterpart twin.

 

 

 

 

Well getting long winded so I'll wrap it up by saying England may not have won the war on guts and determination alone but after reading into the early history of the FAA, I do feel that it is the reason it was not lost! Bow <img src=" border="0" width="29" height="15" />

Thanks fellows! Thumbs Up <img src=" border="0" width="15" height="15" />

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:25 PM

Aaron, nice work on the Skua and Roc.  I'm not actually that familiar with either of these aircraft, mostly just knew that they existed and that the Skua, I believe, was used alot against shipping around Norway.

Anyway, I'm happy to include them in this GB as they do a nice job of off-setting our growing fleet of Stukas ... Wink [;)]

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:28 PM

MORE PICS!!!!

I have the main camo finished, most of the decals applied,and a topcoat of future...after a day or two, I will test out the winter camo...

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

  • Member since
    March 2006
Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:16 AM
Fantastic builds guys.I can't wait to get to my second entry.Whatever it turns out to be.

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:32 PM
Looking good Justin.
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Posted by warhorse3 on Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:20 PM

Finally back after a life interfering with hobby episode. Haven't been able to get much done other than getting the crew just about ready for installation and test fitting the fuselage and wing. I know, not much progress, but most of my builds are of the dead slow variety. Nice job on the FAA birds sfcmacThumbs Up [tup]. The Stukas look good also guys.

Regards, Bill
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Posted by Justinryan215 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:52 PM

well, the Stuka is just about done...a bit ofstretched sprue for an antenna, replace the pitot tube that broke off early in the assembly, and the same for the gunbarrels, and a bit of weathering and exhaust staining and she is 100% complete.

Here's the shots!

 

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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    March 2006
Posted by TD4438 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:36 PM
Certainly not what I was expecting from your earlier pics.Great job.

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:44 PM
Excellent winter scheme on that Stuka.
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Posted by warhorse3 on Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:10 PM
Finally closed the fuselage and got the wing on this week. Next, I've got to build the base so that I can mount it. This is necesary so that I can rig the released bomb and prop blur effect. Very cool winter scheme on the Stuka.
Regards, Bill
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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:00 PM
Mind if I join? I've just started on two Ju-87D's, the original Revell release, both will be OOTB.
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