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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:10 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:

Blkhwkmatt Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the group ! You are offically in, looking forward to your builds. Have you decided what finishing method you will be using ?

 

Not sure yet, I have always wanted to try the metal foil finishing, but not sure that I'm brave enough yet.  Most likely I'll use the Model Master line of paints.  One of these days I'll work my way up to some foil finishes.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:39 PM
 blkhwkmatt wrote:
 vetteman42 wrote:

Blkhwkmatt Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the group ! You are offically in, looking forward to your builds. Have you decided what finishing method you will be using ?

 

Not sure yet, I have always wanted to try the metal foil finishing, but not sure that I'm brave enough yet.  Most likely I'll use the Model Master line of paints.  One of these days I'll work my way up to some foil finishes.

Blkhwkmatt Awwww come on the foil isnt that bad at all. I have used foil on 2 models a P-47D and a P-51D and both came out well. There are just a few tricks you need to know but other than that it goes on fairly easy. I am not all that great a modeler so if I can do it most anyone can.

 

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:07 PM

Hello all Smile [:)] Got the switch plate for my P-38 from Revell the other day so progress will be starting again over the next few days. I have to send kudos to Revell for suprisingly fast service, I recived the part 6 days after ordering online at no charge. That is great customer service I would say.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Aggieman on Friday, May 29, 2009 9:24 PM

Well, bad news.  The B-35 without a lot of the major external parts has defeated all of my efforts to produce anything remotely resembling a presentable build.  The first attempt at external engine nacelles proved to be too flimsy and I was unable to do anything with them, so I removed them and drilled holes into the fuselage to accept short lengths of rod that I could transform into engines.  In so doing I ruined the wing beyond repair ... so I'm tossing it on the scrap pile.

As for the GB, I may stay in with another build ... I'm still evaluating my options, of which I have many but few will work at this point as I have zero space to display any builds with the wheels down, and that's not going to change in the next few months anyway.  I do have a 1/72 Italeri B-58 that I could build wheels up, but I had wanted to do that one wheels down since I believe it would fit into my display cabinet once I get additional shelving installed in there.  I'll let you know of my plans when I determine what I'm going to do.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:32 AM

Aggieman Sorry to hear about the B-35s demise I was truely looking forward to seeing that build. The GB doesnt end until April 1st of next year Aggieman so I hope you will stay in, especially after seeing some of your other builds.  

I am slowly but surely working on my P-38 almost have the office done should be able to get a picture up over the next few days. I think this kit is going to be an, umm, well, an interestin build. I can see alot of filling and sanding in my future Whistling [:-^]

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:40 AM
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Mike

PS: I just ordered up some Talon Acrylics and polishing powders, and checked through my stash log, I have plenty of NMF subjects and am looking forward to taking a shot at the new technique.

Thunderbolt379 Did you join the group ? If I missed it I am sorry. I am thinking of ordering some Talon Acrylics too last time I used NMF paints was a long time ago a very long time and i hated them so might be a good one to try from what I have seen of it from Hawkeye's build.

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, May 30, 2009 2:46 AM

Aggie -- too bad about the B-35, it would have sure been an interesting build. Better luck next time!

Vetteman42 -- yep, a ways back, not sure if I'm on the leader page as I had no idea what I as going to build. It looks like it'll be a Tamiya 1:72 F-84G, a kit that looks super-clean and a smooth build, with great decal options. The Talons arrived (postage was very expensive on such tiny items, but hey ho, you can't get them here), aluminum paint and powder, so now I'm waiting on a set of Eduard canopy masks and the Squadron Thunderjet in Action book as a guide.

I went through my log and identified dozens of NMF subjects, so I'm very hopeful the Talon supplies are as easy to use as they appear. I can finally look at subjects like the B-17, B-29, B-36, B-49, B-50, B-52, B-58, KC-97, Tu-95, Il-28, MiG-19, MiG-21, P-38, P-47, F-84, F-86, F-104 and so forth... I would hope to tackle more than one subject for this GB if things go smoothly.

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:01 AM

Thunderbolt You are now on the front page and a belated welcome to the group build of the shiney stuff, glad to have you. Again sorry I missed you saying you wished to join the group earlier, for some reason I was thought you were only thinking of joining.

Aggieman I will leave the B-35 as your build until you can let me know what you will be building. What a bummer that is sheesh.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:27 PM

Thanks vetteman -- no worries, thinking back maybe I as a bit too inspecific at the time (I was having guilt trips about group builds, I had too many of them on to be realistic about them!) Anyway, things are looking a bit saner now and the Tamiya F-84 should be a breeze, and a valuable experiment in using new products and techniques.

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:47 AM

I will leave the B-35 as your build until you can let me know what you will be building. What a bummer that is sheesh.

I'm going to switch to the Italeri B-58 Hustler 1/72 that I've had in my stash for more than 10 years.  It'll be in-flight displayed on a custom-built stand.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:27 PM
Aggieman Made the change on the front page to the B-58. You dont have to say but I am curious how you are going to finish the B-58, with NMF paint of foil.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, May 31, 2009 4:26 PM
Finish will be a combination of paint and foil.  This will be my second time working with foil - I did a decent job with foil on a 1/144 B-47 a couple years ago.  Paint will likely be Alclad II and perhaps some Model Master.
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Posted by Lancair IV on Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:27 PM

I was finally able to get some work in today.  Completed the outboard engine.

 

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Rob Byrnes

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, June 4, 2009 8:52 PM

Lancair Nice start on the Hustler your foil work looks really good. Is that the kit exhaust can ?  I see lots of detail there, I am not a jet expert looks really good to me. What did you use for the center section of the engine, doesnt look like foil. Had to ask ya know cause I like the effect.

I just about have the office of the P-38 done, just haven't had the time to finish the seat belts and put a light wash on it before putting all the pieces togeather.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Lancair IV on Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:39 PM

Hi Vetteman42,

     The engines are done with 3 different finishes.

Bright is kitchen foil bright side out

Dull is kitchen foil, dull side out, then scuffed up a little more using sand paper

Steel is kitchen foil, dull side out, followed by steel paint.

Still need to touch up a few areas, but you get the idea.

The exhaust cans are Aires parts.  I think they made a huge difference.  I might add some more blue and red to give them the heat look.  The pictures don't do it justice.

Thanks again for looking

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by dioramator on Thursday, June 4, 2009 10:15 PM
I hope this is not a silly question, but how do you get the kitchen foil to stick to the kit (plastic)?
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Posted by Lancair IV on Thursday, June 4, 2009 10:20 PM

 dioramator wrote:
I hope this is not a silly question, but how do you get the kitchen foil to stick to the kit (plastic)?

 

Not a silly question at all.  I use gold leafing glue purchased from Michaels Craft Store.  Sprays on fairly easy, let the foil sit for about 10 minutes, then apply.

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:10 PM

Great looking engine - cant wait to see the rest of the kit.

So - I am looking at starting my F-86F, have been thinking about trying the foil method for the finish and am in need of all the tips and tricks that I can get.  I have never even attempted this before, and have a B-17,24,25,29 in the stash that at least one should be finished in Foil.  So I will be ever so greatfull for all the info that you guys have.

Matt

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, June 5, 2009 1:30 AM

Blkhwkmatt Using foil is not as tough as it appears trust me I have built only two models using foil, the first one a Testors P-47D Bubble top was a learning process and turned out in my mind very well, however I did make, at least to my eye a few mistakes that were greatly improved on my second model. I offer you the article I read that got me started heres the link. I think I posted a picture of the P-47 near the top of this build I will have to check. I did build the P-47 just to see how the foil would work for me I must admit, thinking it would be much more difficult than it turned out to be, I had a lot of fun with it really.

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/default.aspx?c=a&id=283

Heres a link to the P-51D I did for the P-51 GB you might wish to take a peek at it. I did find on this build that it was much easier to foil a panel at a time instead of a whole surface especially compound curves that a 51 is full of.

/forums/33/887376/ShowPost.aspx#887376

PS.     There is a picture of the P-47 I built on page 2 of this group and ya gotta check out Lancair's B-24 on the same page. Also if you take a peek at page 3 there are some tips talked about there that you may find of value if you havent looked already. Hope this helps a bit.

 

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Friday, June 5, 2009 1:01 PM
looking good, unfortunatly i  have plum forgot to take pics of mine. but i let you know the fusalage together.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by soulcrusher on Friday, June 5, 2009 9:43 PM

Randy could you change my entry for this GB. I have found a much more appropriate subject in the stash by accident. I was looking at the Academy 1/48 Hispano Ha 1112 "Buchon". The planes upper finish is all  bare alluminum. Only the underside is blue. It seems like a much better choice for the theme of this GB. Now I just have to find someone who stocks the rattlecans of Testors alluminum. I do not want to put this stuff through my airbrushes as I only spray acrylics mainly because of easier clean up and the lack of the nasty fumes. Foil would probally look out of place as this was a front line fighter not a show piece. So if you would please change the front page. I'll probally start building it this weekend. It looks as if I'm probally going to have to place an order with Squadron to get the paint. Thanks.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 9:05 AM

 smokinguns3 wrote:
looking good, unfortunatly i  have plum forgot to take pics of mine. but i let you know the fusalage together.

Smokinguns3 Gotta have some work in progress pictures for the group, if you would post some of what you have now we would like to see it or them.

 

Soulcrusher No problem your build has been changed. Now I have to go and find some pictures of it. I have limited knowlage, I have to admit of US aircraft, and am even more limited on non US aircraft.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Sherman1111 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 9:25 AM
I would like to join up . I will do a Trumpeter 1/72 Flagon F and a Amodel 1/72 Tu-128 Fiddler
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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 9:27 AM
 Lancair IV wrote:

 dioramator wrote:
I hope this is not a silly question, but how do you get the kitchen foil to stick to the kit (plastic)?

 

Not a silly question at all.  I use gold leafing glue purchased from Michaels Craft Store.  Sprays on fairly easy, let the foil sit for about 10 minutes, then apply.

 

Cheers

Dioramator My Daddy always told me "The only silly question you can ask is the one that you don't ask" I have always found that statement to be true, sometimes painfully so. I use Microscale's Micro Metal Foil Adhesive. It has been turning up in the hobby shops around here of late. I dont wish to spray glue inside my apartment so the microscale works perfectly for me. Just brush a thin coat on the foil, and clean up with water when wet and alcohol when dry, 91% works best. Have only used 1/3 of the 1oz bottle for 2 builds so it does go a long way, at $3.50 a bottle thats not too bad in my book.

 

 

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Posted by Sherman1111 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 9:30 AM
how do you put the badge to your account never done before?
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Posted by dioramator on Saturday, June 6, 2009 9:39 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:
 Lancair IV wrote:

 dioramator wrote:
I hope this is not a silly question, but how do you get the kitchen foil to stick to the kit (plastic)?

 

Not a silly question at all.  I use gold leafing glue purchased from Michaels Craft Store.  Sprays on fairly easy, let the foil sit for about 10 minutes, then apply.

 

Cheers

Dioramator My Daddy always told me "The only silly question you can ask is the one that you don't ask" I have always found that statement to be true, sometimes painfully so. I use Microscale's Micro Metal Foil Adhesive. It has been turning up in the hobby shops around here of late. I dont wish to spray glue inside my apartment so the microscale works perfectly for me. Just brush it on and clean up with water when wet and alcohol when dry, 91% works best. Have only used 1/3 of the 1oz bottle for 2 builds so it does go a long way, at $3.50 a bottle thats not too bad in my book.

 

 

 

I went to the art supplies today and picked up a 8 fl.oz. can of "old world art" gold leaf adhesive size (brush on). (made in Sant Fe Springs CA.) for $20.00 AU. I had a bit of a play with it today using aluminium foil. It looks like it should do the trick for the Mustang.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 10:49 AM

Sherman 1111 First and foremost Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the group I will get your builds posted to the lead page today.

There are some here much better than I am at this computer stuff so hopefully one will chime in on this subject, but heres what I did with the badge. First copy the badge of your choice from the leading page to your computer, I use windows xp so right click on the badge you want and save it. Next most here use www.photobucket.com its a free photosharing site and setup an account, after you get your account you can upload your badge to your picture site. Keep that page open and open your FSM forum page( you will have 2 internet explorer pages open at this point) and click your profile botton there should be a signiture option there in your profile thats where you will be adding your badge. Now open your photobucket window and click on the badge you uploaded and a box below the badge will open, go I believe its the bottom option it starts with IMG in brackets, you move the curser to that box it will highlight, and right click and choose copy. Then open your FSM page right click and choose paste, and paste that to your signiture, now windows will ask to allow copy from clipboard choose yes that window may popup again it does on mine and choose yes again and it will paste. Thats how I did it if someone has a better way please chime in. Oh you will post pictures to the forum in the same way however you will copy the picture to your post.

Hope that helps I am far from being an expert on computer stuff

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Saturday, June 6, 2009 11:02 AM

 Sherman1111 wrote:
how do you put the badge to your account never done before?

Sherman first you need to host your photos or badge in this case on an free online host site like photobucket. Once you set yourself up with an account you can upload photos to the site. When the photo is on the site there will be 4 links under it. Click on the photo you want and it will jump to the top of the page. Then click on the last of the 4 links under the picture and paste in into your signature box in you FSM page. You want to use small size photos of the badge when you paste them in the signature box so you can fit more than one and they do not take up alot of space. That is how I have so many in mine.

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Posted by Sherman1111 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 11:14 AM
Ok got the badge in thanks guys for the help.
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Posted by smokinguns3 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:29 PM

Ok heres where iam sorry about not keeping up on the pics i just get forgetful.

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