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ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 12:18 AM

Spike190 man yours is a build to be proud of, I really like the camo and am thinking if I do another 262 I will copy your example.  Very well done Toast

Daywalker are you kidding me ??? You are doing another super micro mini 262 ?? Surprise I cant even see the PE fret in the picture man. My hat goes off to you sir, cant wait to see what you do with this one.

Thanks guys for the kind words. And Mike is sayin I have a craftsman's eyes ? Nah just lots of practice using putty building mostly Revell and Monogram kits. Of course I have found that using Bondo Glazing putty is much easier to work with and sands better than the other puttys I have been using.  Should have some more progress pictures up later in the week, the build seems to be going pretty fast now. If I get lucky may get to start painting next week Big Smile

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:48 AM

Frank, OMFG you are a sadist. I have to try one of those.Devil

Randy, every picture I have ever seen of a 262 shows uneven panels on the nose so don't worry about getting it "perfect".  Congrats on a 1000 posts.

I have done very little on the Mistel.  I was sick at the beginning of last week and this working thing and house hunting is really cutting into my bench time. 

JOHN

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 11:24 AM

Thanks Randy, I'm chuffed everyone has taken so well to striped finish. Can't wait to see more of yours.

Frank that looks like a real good reason to break out the 'velocity', scary scary stuff Bow Down

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:01 PM

Thanks guys, I think you're all correct- I am nuts!  What was I thinking?  Well, too late now- work has begun.  More pics soon!

Frank 

 

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Posted by sidure on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:09 PM

Frank your a glutton for punishment. More power to ya

Steve

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, March 7, 2010 10:39 PM

I have made some progress this weekend on the 1/32 and 1/144 ME-262's.  On the little one, the cockpits are finished, engine nacelles glued, and most of the pre-painting is done.  The aluminum interior was a PITA to mask and paint (trying to mask the cockpits for the aluminum undersides and RLM 66 interiors was tricky!)

On the Trumpeter 1/32 kit, I assembled the engines, thankfully installing them while the glue dried into the nacelles to be sure they fit later.  A good tip!  Also painted the exhaust "onions", intakes, and exhausts.  Still have some weathering to do on these parts.  I also finished assembling the gear bay bits and gave them a squirt of aluminum too.  More to come!

Looking aft...

Looking forward...

Frank 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, March 7, 2010 10:53 PM

PM inbound Frank!:banana:

                                                                                                                  Soulcrusher

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, March 7, 2010 10:58 PM

Right on buddy, signal received and returned! Pirate

Frank 

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Monday, March 8, 2010 6:51 AM

Looking good Frank, that 1/144 makes me squint even looking on my monitor! I look forward to seeing more progress.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by sidure on Monday, March 8, 2010 10:57 AM

Fran, looks great on both builds. I cant get the belts right on a 1/48 so I know that was a lot of detail and frustrating to get them looking so good. Good stuff my friend

Steve

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Posted by TK Models on Monday, March 8, 2010 12:54 PM

Here's some of my small scale 262's from the past couple years. Enjoy! All have pe seatbelts added and I did some scratchbuilding in the gear wells. I opened the canopy and used a vac from hood on the second.

Revell 1/72 Me 262 A's and 262 B

 

 

Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket 1/72 Revell 262 A

 

 

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Photobucket Photobucket 1/72 Revell 262 B

I believe this is Planet Models' 262 3 seater in resin. I added fuel tanks from my spares.

1/72 262 3 seater Photobucket Photobucket

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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 1:45 PM

Nice stuff TK, I like the two seater especially, well done on the squiggle.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 10:22 PM

Thanks for the eye candy TK Models that 2 seater is interesting.

Ok here goes guys, some WIP pictures of my 262. She is ready for painting now, I took these pictures just before masking was done. As you can see it did take a bit of putty and Mr Surfacer to clean up gaps and such but I think it will come out well. I decided to go with a closed canopy and had a lot of trouble getting the center section of the canopy to fit, turns out it was too long and a bit too tall. Took a few hours of sanding and fitting, then sanding some more, it isn't perfect but will do I think. If the weather is warmer tomorrow the primer will go on.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by sidure on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 10:29 PM

Loking good Vettman and you have put a lot of work into it. Cant wait to see some paint on it

Steve

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 11:34 PM

Man, that's a lot of work you have put into that one Randy!  I too cannot wait to see some paint on her.

Frank 

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:03 PM

Randy, looks like your winning the battle with this one, I wouldn't know you'd had trouble with the canopy, it looks spot on Yes.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:16 AM

Thanks guys your kind words are great encouragement for me, really means a lot. I do have more WIP pictures for ya. Got her primed today and preshaded, I used a white primer and flat black for the preshading. I am by no means a pro with an airbrush and as you will see in the pictures I got better as I went along. The left wing looks much better than the right. Tomorrow the base colors start going on, I will be using Model Masters Acryl RLM 74, 75, and 76.

Comments good or bad are welcomed and encouraged how else will I learn ya know.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:03 AM

Looking good, Ive been watching this GB for a while (school has put my modeling on haitus for right now), and I'm thinking the next kit I'm going to get will be an ME-262!! Man, you guys have some awesome planes here!

vetteman42:  i noticed that you pre-shaded the line of the elevator hinge on the top of your bird, but not on the bottom...did you miss that, or was that done on purpose?

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by Evil Herc on Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:57 AM

Wow... I have been away to long. Some really good looking builds here.

Frank, hope you don't mind if I join back in and start posting pics again at this late date.

I have almost finished my 262... she has paint on her & decals. I am wanting to do some post shading and weathering to her but am so scared of messing it up.

 

 

 

Comments are always welcome. I need all the help I can Get.

Cheers & Semper Fi-Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:43 AM

CallSignOWL Hey thanks for the heads up there, Toast the missed preshading has been corrected this morning. Also touched up some other places while the AB was loaded up. Always better to have more than one pair of eyes looking at a model.

Evil Herc glad to see you back, your build is looking good. Did you preshade your build ? I ask because the panel lines look really good and it looks faded in places too. I always get all kinds of nervous when I get ready to weather one of my builds especially when I really like the paint job. But as my Daddy always told me " No guts, no glory " So I tend to dive right in and go for the gusto so to speak.

I will be painting the base colors on my 262 today, and not being too familiar with German camo so I hope I get the colors in the right places. My second build coming back to the hobby was a LInberg Stuka that the colors are not right on but it looks cool anyway. Hopefully I will have some pictures to post this evening.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Spike190 on Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:35 PM

Randy that pre-shade looks good enough to me, keep up the good work.

Jason it's good to see you again. Your paint looks really good from here. I do all kinds of stuff on my builds, I'm a big fan of post it notes, just lay them on a few panel lines and spray some slightly darker base colour to break up the lines etc, that works well on the control surfaces. I use some Tamiya pastels around the ejector chutes and I'm gonna get a few more Lifecolor Tensocrom which are fantastic to apply just with a small brush and they clean up a doddle with water. Just do what you fancy but build it up slowly and I think you'll be a happy guy. I did wonder are you missing the front of the engines?

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Evil Herc on Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:50 PM

Thanks for the warm Welcome Back.

Vette- You are right. I need to quit Puzzyfooting around and finish her.

Mike- great observation. Yes I am missing the front engine cones, its all part of an evil plan!!! (insert evil laugh here)

Cheers & Semper Fi-Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:14 PM

Welcome back Jason, glad to see you here again!  Love that jet, some of the coolest markings it ever wore IMHO.  Which kit is this one again?

Randy- Looks like you've got the preshading down!  The rather unevenness of it will help give you a convincing shaded look.  I think you are well on your way to a great paint job.

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 12, 2010 11:24 PM

Quick update on the tiny 262B...

Wings are on, and the gaps filled.  I used this strips of .005 styrene to fill the major gaps, then trimmed those down and filled the rest with Tamiya putty.

Next up, canopy masking YIKES!  A lot of tiny frames on this one compared to the -1a.

Frank 

 

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:19 AM

Jason - I really like the scheme on that one... nice job. Yes Looking through my decal collection for some spares and found that sheet. The blue and whit really stands out. Keep us updated.

Randy - Nice work on the preshading. I have always wanted to try that technique but was afraid of screwing up and haveing to start over. Props to you for giving it a try. Toast

Frank - I haven't been keeping up here so I must have missed you starting another 1/144 Swalbe. And with radar antenna too! Surprise And filling gaps with styrene? Now you're just showing off. Wink Seriously, nice work. I envy your talents sir. Embarrassed

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by razordws on Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:47 AM

Vetteman, I have not been brave enough to try preshading yet so you're one up on me!

Jason, love the paint job and markings.  That is a beautiful looking aircraft! YesYes

Frank, you're mad I say.  Stark raving lunatic mad but I love what you're doing!!!  Stick out tongue

Dave

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Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:37 PM

Randy, the pre-shading looks fine.

I find it works even better if the lines are more diffuse, prevents that stark tram line look on the finished paint job.

Jason, nice job on the paintwork and decals.

Looking forward to seeing that one finished.

Frank, you are officially insane!Indifferent

The lil' Schwalbe looks stunning.

With regard the onions, zwiebeln, on the big 262, these were often a sooty pale gray in colour.

Oh and finally made up my mind.....

...put me down for Trumpy's big 262 too.

Karl

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:27 PM

Thanks fellas, glad you like it so far!  Yep, I think you're right- I am nutz.  Quite a different experience having both 1/32 and 1/144 planes on the bench at the same time.  I held up the engines from the 1/32 bird to the 1/144 version, looked like Anakin's pod racer.

Right on Karl, added your Trumpeter 262 to the roster, can't wait to see your progress!  Mine has stalled, not sure why.  Just don't have much interest in working on it of late.

Frank 

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:15 PM

Thanks guys for all the encouragement. This is the second time I have tried preshading and let me tell ya it is just as scary as the first time was, that was on a P-61 I built last year. Daywalker  you are one twisted individual building such drastically different scales of the 262. However I really like seeing your talented work Toast

Now for some WIP pictures and a help request. I have painted on the three colors RLM 74, 75 and, 76, I think I was a bit heavy handed as the preshading came out very subtle and you cant see it in the pictures at all. I will more than likely do some post shading with water colors and maybe do a bit of fading work also. What I need help with, this is my first attempt at a German camo, AKA motteling. As the model sits now it doesnt seem finished to me at all after masking and adding the RLM 75. Here's what it looks like now.

My question is should the RLM 75 also be motteled on the top over the RLM 76 ? Or would this be correct as it is. Also a comment. My hat is off to all of you that can do this motteling so well, the airbrush control to do a good job of it is mind bending. If nothing else I have learned better control and will now get better using my brush.  Thanks for looking and for the help.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:33 PM

Randy- Not bad at all, I like it!  I would love to help, but I am afraid I don't quite understand your question.  Do you know which markings you are using on this one?  That might help me to understand.  The ME-262's carried many variations of camouflage on them, so you do have some leeway here. 

Frank 

 

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