~The Bear Trap GB~ December '09 to August '10

darson wrote:

Hey guys I was mucking around in Photoshop tonite with some free Soviet fonts and some images and came up with this, what do you think? Michael you are the boss of this build so I'll leave final badge selection up to you but let me know what you think. Cheers

http://www.screentrek.com/images/the-beast-film22.jpg  Here's a cool pic...

darson wrote:

Hey guys I was mucking around in Photoshop tonite with some free Soviet fonts and some images and came up with this, what do you think? Michael you are the boss of this build so I'll leave final badge selection up to you but let me know what you think. Cheers

Hmmm....I don't know. It doesn't really "scream" the Soviet-Afghan War. However, when I get some of my badges done(hopefully later this week) we'll have a vote on all the badges to decide which one's we'll keep, wether it be one or all of them. Hope this sounds good to everyone.

Hmmm well that badge didn't seem to be too much of a winner, oh well stuff happens.  The image by the way is a couple of abandoned T-55s left behind by retreating Soviet forces at Bagram air base.

Good news though on the 1/35 T-55 front though, I got an email last night that the set of Modelkasten tracks that I ordered have been shipped

I like the image, but the copy is kinda funky, and Mikey speaks the language, after all...

I flocked up and started on my BTR 152 APC and BTR 152 Command vehicle. Oops, just got excited...

Hey the BTR-60 is still enroute and I will hold that till 12/1/09.

Busy looking up cool cammo. Overall brown dust seems to be the order of the day.

Here's a question. If you read Sebastian Ungers article "Fire", he told a story of how the Northern Alliance built a bus from a shot-down helo, maybe an MI-8 and drove it around. I'd love to get more info on that.

Best books: Frederick Forsythe "Lie Down With Lions". James Michener "Caravans".

bondoman wrote:

No and no. In my mailbox today, the very exquisite Trumpeter BTR-80 in 1/72. I'm so sold on this after looking it over that I want more of them. Also the T-54 and 55 by Trump are looking good...

-Neu- wrote:

HSteve: If you need a few extras for your Su-25, I have a small fret of FAB-500 bombs and some drop tanks from an old Kopro kit that I built as a kid, which I don't mind parting with. Its a bit crude but with a bit of work it would give you some more options if you want them.

That's awesome, buddy! I'll PM...

What kit will the hind be?

I'm thinking of adding a 1/48 KOPRO in w/some Eduard details... 

Start w/ the RoG, end w/ the KP kit...

We've got a year, right?

mg. ,

Can I do that? Add another kit?

Guys I'm not much of an expert on Soviet camo or colors for tanks so could someone give me a heads up on what color green my 70's vintage T-55 should be?

I can get hold of Vallejo, Tamiya, Gunze, Model Master Enamel & Humbrol enamel paints.

Thanks

HSteve - Sorry about the delayed response, yes you can add as many builds as you want. I'll update the roster very soon.

 BearTrappers- Guys I'm sorry I didn't get the badges up this weekend. I had to get some supplies for my studio class and finish up a few architectural projects. But I'll try to get the badges finished very, very soon. (that way we can have the vote.)

Well the blst models set for the T-55 arived today and after a quick inspection I must say I'm very happy with it.  The only part that I can see that is damaged (beyond repair) are the drivers view ports.  This is not a big deal as I'll just use a combo of kit part, Blast and scratchbuilding to fix it up.

Cheers 

Hi! 

I'd like to join in on the GB it that's okay. I will build the 1/48 Revell Mi-24D.

HSteve- Is the 1/48 KOPRO gonna be a SU-25 kit?

balta1- Welcome aboard, just remember no starting untill December 1st. Updated roster.

mg.mikael wrote:

HSteve- Is the 1/48 KOPRO gonna be a SU-25 kit?

As long as it's available until I can afford it, yeah...

I've found one kit available, and from what -neu- has told me, they're not great kits...

-neu- ,

bad fit, flash, etc.?

The KP costs around 50 bucks... I want to hear from some folks who've built 'em before I go nuts...

Eduard has an entire set of p/e stuff to detail it - cockpit, exterior, you name it...

I'm a little cautious about sinking +/- 100 bucks into a model; I've got a year to build and hone my skills, though...

Rationalization: You Gotta Love It!

HSteve wrote:

mg.mikael wrote: HSteve- Is the 1/48 KOPRO gonna be a SU-25 kit?     As long as it's available until I can afford it, yeah... I've found one kit available, and from what -neu- has told me, they're not great kits... -neu- , bad fit, flash, etc.? The KP costs around 50 bucks... I want to hear from some folks who've built 'em before I go nuts... Eduard has an entire set of p/e stuff to detail it - cockpit, exterior, you name it... I'm a little cautious about sinking +/- 100 bucks into a model; I've got a year to build and hone my skills, though... Rationalization: You Gotta Love It!

Sorry about not getting the badges up this weekend guys. I've been swamped with work again this weekend, but I'll try to get some work on them done later this week.

Going to the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS show on Saturday(won't be entering any builds) but maybe I'll pick up a Shilka or something.....guess I better get their early.

   I admit I am thinking about joining this one, but for now just a question. Are the MiG-19, Su-15, Su-20, Su-22, Tu-95 and Tu-128 not listed because they didn't fly actual combat sorties during the war or for some other reason? I am pretty positive they were all "In the inventory" during this time frame.

                                          Andrew

Hey MG, I would like to get in on this one as well.  I have  Maquette 1/35 ASU-57.  I will probably have to fight this kit to get it done.  I have attempted ths Russian brand before and it was horrific and spent many days in theropy afterwards and Johnny Walker and I became close friends............LOL.  let me know if I can hop in this GB.

Bob

Got Hinomaru? - First off, I hope you do decide to join the Bear Trap GB. Secondly, my list isn't 100% perfect so I'll look into those vehicles and update the list accordingly.

M1Carbine - Great to have you aboard, just remember no starting untill December 1st. Your a braver soul then me to attempt that Maquette kit......nevertheless I hope you conquer the beast.

Thanks MG, appreciate it.

Bob

Got Hinomaru wrote:

I admit I am thinking about joining this one, but for now just a question. Are the MiG-19, Su-15, Su-20, Su-22, Tu-95 and Tu-128 not listed because they didn't fly actual combat sorties during the war or for some other reason? I am pretty positive they were all "In the inventory" during this time frame.                                             Andrew

I looked into it and I will include the Su-20, Su-22, and the Tu-95. The Su-15 and Tu-128 are not going to be included because I found no proof of those ever seeing service in the Soviet-Afghan War.

As for the MiG-19, I haven't found any references that state it was in the war, but if anyone has proof otherwise please share.

Roster and vehicle list have been updated.

Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad.

Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?  

mg.mikael wrote:

Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?

I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range.

Coldsteel6d wrote:

mg.mikael wrote: Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?     I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range.

They were "out of stock" on some other online hobby sites too.......I wonder if they were discontinued or something. I know Miniarm makes a set of tracks, but their resin unfortunately.

Maybe I should have bought the Friuls at the IPMS meet yesterday, but they were $33 dollars or so and even if I did haggle for them they still would have been too pricey for me. Especially considering the T-72 kit cost $10 and I didn't want to spend three times that on just the tracks.

mg.mikael wrote:

Coldsteel6d wrote:  mg.mikael wrote: Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?     I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range. They were "out of stock" on some other online hobby sites too.......I wonder if they were discontinued or something. I know Miniarm makes a set of tracks, but their resin unfortunately. Maybe I should have bought the Friuls at the IPMS meet yesterday, but they were $33 dollars or so and even if I did haggle for them they still would have been too pricey for me. Especially considering the T-72 kit cost $10 and I didn't want to spend three times that on just the tracks.

I want a set for my T-62. Havent really started looking yet but if I cant find em online I will hit the local shop. Maybe he can order them through his own supplier. If not the kit ones will do. Unlike yours, my kit comes with indy tracks and they dont look that bad. 

Coldsteel6d wrote:

mg.mikael wrote:  Coldsteel6d wrote:  mg.mikael wrote: Yesterday at the 27th Butch O'Hare IPMS open meet, I picked up a Tamiya 1/35 T-72M1 for the fantastic price of $10.00. So I'm gonna be building that for the Bear Trap GB......unfortunatley the rubberband tracks look pretty bad. Anyone know where I can get a pair of ModelKasten T-72 tracks very cheap?     I have been looking for some for a while now as well. Great Models has them listed but they are out of stock and have been for a while. I'll keep my eyes open for em. Seen em in the past for $22 to $26 range. They were "out of stock" on some other online hobby sites too.......I wonder if they were discontinued or something. I know Miniarm makes a set of tracks, but their resin unfortunately. Maybe I should have bought the Friuls at the IPMS meet yesterday, but they were $33 dollars or so and even if I did haggle for them they still would have been too pricey for me. Especially considering the T-72 kit cost $10 and I didn't want to spend three times that on just the tracks.  Unlike yours, my kit comes with indy tracks and they dont look that bad.

Ahhh man, I'm so jealous.

This is my first attempt to post pictures to a web site. Figure I better get some practice in before the real deal starts up.

Just some plane jane pics of the box and some parts. I didnt worry about picture quality or lighting or anything. Purely done just to see if I could get them to post.

Complete kit

Tracks and roadwheels

Box art

Lower hull, metal barrel, clear plastic, and PE