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~The Bear Trap GB~ December '09 to August '10

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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Colorado
Posted by HSteve on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:23 PM

FastEagle1

Good evening guys,

I hope you don't mind a late request to join the party, err, I mean GB.  HSteve was kind enough to recommend it to me shortly after I joined the site yesterday - Many thanks, kind sir!

So, if I'm not too late, i would like to represent our winged brethren with the 1/48 KoPro Su-22M4, which I'll convert to the -17M4R.  I believe he saw some action in Afghanistan before being sent to the bench in lieu of the more capable Su-25.   

The armor projects on the build look excellent, by the way!  Great job guys.

Many thanks and see you all soon!

Another KP kit - Hmmmm.

What say you, mg.?

 

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

- Don Eiseli,  Astronaut, Apollo 7

 

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:39 PM

FastEagle1

Good evening guys,

I hope you don't mind a late request to join the party, err, I mean GB.  HSteve was kind enough to recommend it to me shortly after I joined the site yesterday - Many thanks, kind sir!

So, if I'm not too late, i would like to represent our winged brethren with the 1/48 KoPro Su-22M4, which I'll convert to the -17M4R.  I believe he saw some action in Afghanistan before being sent to the bench in lieu of the more capable Su-25.   

The armor projects on the build look excellent, by the way!  Great job guys.

Many thanks and see you all soon!

 

Nope your not late at all, welcome aboard! If you have any questions about this GB feel free to read the first page(if that doesn't answer any questions you may have, feel free to ask.) So that said lookin' forward to seeing your build. (by the way, post lots of picsSmile)

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by FastEagle1 on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:48 PM

You all are far too kind!!

I'll have an update to share before too long.  

 

  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: Cary, North Carolina
Posted by M1Carbine on Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:41 AM

Good deal, another addition to the GB.  Welcome aboard FastEagle1

 

Bob

  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by FastEagle1 on Friday, January 1, 2010 10:36 PM

Good evening everyone,

In the spirit of the New Year, I humbly submit my first photo of the KoPro Su-17M4R project:

Hopefully I did this correctly and the photo appears above.   As the box indicates the starting point of my build is the Su-22M4.  The conversion to the -17M4R is quite simple owing to the fact that both aircraft shared the same engine (unlike the earlier export versions of the "Big Su" which were shipped abroad with a Turmanski engine, necessitating a larger aft-empannage).  While the kit is correct is shape and scale it lacks sufficient detail in the cockpit and gear wells; I will scratch build these items and add a few details to the gear themselves.  True Details makes a very nice KM1 ejection seat and will be used in this build.

 "Cleared for departure runway 35R; climb and maintain two-thousand, contact Departure on xxx.x".  Have a good flight".     

Onward, through the fog!

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Saturday, January 2, 2010 4:14 PM

FastEagle1- Can't wait to see some progress, looks like this will be quite a neat build.Yes Oh, and yes the photo appears above.

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by FastEagle1 on Sunday, January 3, 2010 10:57 AM

Good day everyone,

Just a brief update to pass along.  I'm trying to get as much "modeling bench" time as I can this weekend before the Christmas/ New Year's vacation ends.  So without further ado, here are a few items from the front office:

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I used Vallejo Model Color acrylics on the seat (specifically, Russian Uniform for the base color w/ Khaki and a Khaki/ Medium Fleshtone blend for the two sets of harnesses).  I will finish this up with shadows and highlights later.  

The instrument panel is my second attempt after my unsteady hand botched the first.  The HUD control unit and projector were constructed from stock sheet, rod and strips.  Now I just need to figure out how to mount the projector to the windscreen frame.....Sometimes one just needs to open a beer and contemplate these things!

Cheers!

  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by FastEagle1 on Sunday, January 3, 2010 10:58 AM

D'oh!  Let me try this again.

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Monday, January 4, 2010 8:48 PM

FastEagle1- Let me just say your pilots seat has some stunning detail. Plus the added scratch parts will really make the cockpit shine.Cool

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 1:52 PM

Fast Eagle that is beautiful work on that seat!Yes I am looking forward to seeng your build as it progresses.

As for me no construction yet. I have multiple other projects still taking up my time, but I did watch Charlie Wisons War the other nite to put me in the proper frame of mind for this build...Wink Great movie on this subject.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    December 2008
  • From: Currently Moscow, Russia
Posted by Coldsteel6d on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 4:00 PM

stikpusher

 

As for me no construction yet. I have multiple other projects still taking up my time, but I did watch Charlie Wisons War the other nite to put me in the proper frame of mind for this build...Wink Great movie on this subject.

 

I've seen all of the stuff on the history channel about Charlies war. Is the movie any good? Might have to check it out. Learned a lot of niffty things on the history channels show on the subject.

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 5:51 PM

I really liked the movie. It has it's own sense of humor and style to the story. The CGI Hind sequences are pretty impressive. My only real nitpick was some stinger test footage of US drone kills being spliced in. Otherwise it is a really good moive.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:51 AM

Hey guys, sorry about the lack of updates. I've been sidetracked by my JS-II for the Winter Warriors GB and I've been busy writing an article for FSM(hope they buy it off me.) That said I've been very slowly getting things done here and there on my T-72. The tracks have been primed and I'm painting on the first coat of paint. Unfortunatley for me, my bottle of Tamiya Acrylic Flat Earth has run out and now I'm running to the LHS. (hope they have it in stock or I'm sorta screwed for awhile.Crying)

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Colorado
Posted by HSteve on Saturday, January 9, 2010 4:08 PM

FastEagle,

All I can say is, b-e-a-utiful!Indifferent...

I've yet to start either projects for this build. Like stikpusher, I'm still working on other subjects, trying to finish them before taking on new stuff...Tongue Tied

I've got the KP SU-25 Frogfoot A, 1/48, that I'm itching to build, just not enough space on my desk to start a new model...I'm getting an Eduard p/e set to dress up both the cp and the exterior; maybe a few weeks from now, I'll start on it. I've got a 1/72 RoG -25, but I think I'll leave that in the stash. I'm kind of getting sucked into 1/48 scale, and the detail on the KP kit is great - how is the fit of yours?

That's the main thing I'm concerned about - getting the exterior nailed. I'm not a huge fan od cp detail, but am slowly figuring out how to build with minimal sanding, filling, etc.

Keep up the GREAT work, look forward to more of your pics!

-S.

 

 

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

- Don Eiseli,  Astronaut, Apollo 7

 

  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by FastEagle1 on Saturday, January 9, 2010 4:50 PM

Hi everyone,

Many thanks for the kind words.  After seeing the quality of your work on this and other posts, I am honored.  

HSteve, you are in for a fun time with your KP.  While I cannot speak for the Su-25 kit (I have yet to see one up close) I'm finding the -22M4 kit to be a pleasant surprise.  I knew going in that it was not going to be a shake-and-bake exercise a-la Tamiya but certain features do stand out such as the shape and placement of panel lines - most all are there.  I've discovered through dry fitting that the fit of the larger structures is a mixed bag; the fuselage is going together well but the wing roots do not match well to their respective location on the fuselage.   However, nothing that cannot be overcome with a bit of patience.

All that being said, I'm thankful that KP has given these subjects the attention they have.  Perhaps we'll see a Mig-31 from them one day.....just sayin!

I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Su-25 and seeing your build get under way Big Smile.

Take care!

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:23 PM

Yes, it's still me just a new avatar.(good change or bad?) Anyways, my LHS had the paint I need in stock, it was the last bottle so I considered my self lucky. That meant I was able to get the tracks completely painted in Tamiya Flat Earth and now I can start on the washes.....hopefully soon.

I have spring semester starting tomorrow, so my modeling time will take a serious hit(probably down by half.) But on the positive side I be taking a super interesting class, War since Napoleon (it's part of the military history category, so I'm lookin' forward to it.Cool)

 

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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    December 2009
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by FastEagle1 on Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:45 PM

Hi MG,

Props on the new avatar!!  Glad to hear the LHS came through - heck, I'm just happy to hear you have one close by.  While I'm sorry to hear your modeling time will take a hit, I am encouraged that you are putting your classes first.  Trust me, this decision will pay big dividends for you down the road.   War since Napoleon should be quite interesting!  

Keep us posted when you can, even if it's an update on an exam.

 

Cheers, Brother!

Beer 

 

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:56 PM

No worries, I'll still find time to build(even if it will be limited to weekends mostly) and hang out on the forums. My class schedule is never that bad or overwhelming, always alot of time to waste.Stick out tongue

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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    August 2009
  • From: Cary, North Carolina
Posted by M1Carbine on Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:37 PM

MG, the avitar change is .....good.............Umm....nice.........really nice.............Im not saying anymore....shes a hotty!

 

Bob

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:21 AM

M1Carbine

MG, the avitar change is .....good.............Umm....nice.........really nice.............Im not saying anymore....shes a hotty!

 

Bob

Ok, that's good........and that's all I'm going to say.Big Smile

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Colorado
Posted by mph34 on Monday, January 18, 2010 8:39 PM

So - I get a Su-25 for Christmas.  I get a few days off between Christmas and New Years.  What happens - coming out of the office that last night before my time off, I find some black ice, slip, and break my ankle.  Thus stairs are being avoided - and guess where the workbench is - downstairs.

Well, at least I am able to get serious about my research on a Su-25 used by the Soviets in their Afganistan War.  That and get some add-ons for the Revell kit.

Keep posting all of you.  I am look forward to seeing everyone's progress.

  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: Cary, North Carolina
Posted by M1Carbine on Monday, January 18, 2010 8:47 PM

MPH.....sorry to hear you broke your ankle..........Now tough it up and slide down the stairs on your butt and get to that workbench buddy...............LOL.

 

Bob

 

 

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Colorado
Posted by mph34 on Monday, January 18, 2010 8:58 PM

M1Carbine

MPH.....sorry to hear you broke your ankle..........Now tough it up and slide down the stairs on your butt and get to that workbench buddy...............LOL.

 Bob

 

Believe me - I am looking at how to pull that off.  It is not so much the sliding down the stairs, nor getting back up {crawl up on my butt}. Wink  It is getting to the bench. Crying  There is no place for me to put a 2nd chair so I can put my foot up. 

I am thinking I will get a 'moble tool kit' put together so I can work in my easy chair. Hmm  By the time I get to painting, I am hoping to be more mobile and can get to the airbrush.

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Monday, January 18, 2010 9:34 PM

Sorry to hear about the ankle, mph34. Hope it heals quickly and correctly.

Hey but at least you have some time to do some serious research to make you SU-25 top-notch.Smile

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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  • From: Cary, North Carolina
Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:29 AM

MPH......LOL.  have a solution.  Rig a pully system up o the cealng and make a sling for our foot.................LOL.

 

Im trying to get this to work for ya man.....LOL

 

mobil tool kit is te best dea.  At least you can get parts prepped. 

 

Justg get better my friend.

 

Bob

  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Colorado
Posted by HSteve on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:09 PM

MPH,

Do you have kids?

Do they have a slide?

Afew pillows at the bottom, you can get your dinner @ the bench...Confused

Just kidding, buddy, injuries suckAngry

Why not move some stuff up from the basement to the coffee table?

Not perfect, but it'll keep you from going nuts.

I hurt my hand at work a few years ago, and after my surgery the surgeon said no movement for a week,

I had to keep my hand on top of my head for 3 days - LOL

Other than my hand, I was fine. I was going absolutely stir-crazy by week 5!

Good luck, get better,

-Steve

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

- Don Eiseli,  Astronaut, Apollo 7

 

  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by FastEagle1 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:25 PM

MPH,

I echo the sentiments expressed here and extend my best wishes for a quick recovery.   Get back in the saddle soon, my friend.

I'm looking forward to seeing your Su-25.....Ahhhhh, yes, another Sukhoi!  Sukhoi's at taking over the worl......

Sorry,  it's time for my meds.

See y'all later!

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:43 PM

With my JS-II build done for the Winter Warriors GB, I can now slowly start work up again on my T-72 for this GB. Hope to get the tracks finished this weekend and attached(ugh...rubberband tracksIck!), so that said I'll try to get a small update posted over the weekend sometime.

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:14 PM

MPH sorry to here about your injury buddy, I hope you get back to the bench as soon as you can.

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Friday, January 22, 2010 9:35 PM

Hey darson, how's that T-55 coming along?...get

"A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week." - George S. Patton

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