(Anti) Submarine Warfare GB 2010 *CLOSED*

Lewbud wow you finished the Carter and did a great job on it to boot, and now you are almost finished with another ?? You are a building machine my friend. Yeah I like Hunt For Red October too watch it all the time.  

Thanks Randy.  These kits are quitesimple and go together fairly well.  Fixing to pull the tape off the Seawolf and start the Typhoon.  After that I think I'll take a break  from things that swim beneath the sea, although the Hobby Boss 688 boat is tempting.

Lewbud,

Congratulations on a cute little build of a big bad*ss Seawolf there Looks great buddy! And also my congratulations and attaboys on finishing the first model for the group. I hope there will be lots more this year. Your build has been added to the first post. Have adapted Randy's method of a picture gallery to show the finished models

Keep up the good work sir

Richard (who likes ANY sub movie...... "One ping ONLY".....)

Thanks Richard.  You've got a rare creature on the front page.  A completed and on time GB model of mine is a rare sight indeed.

I'm calling the Seawolf done.  Next up the Typhoon.  I have to go to the lhs for some paint which means I might be coming home with the HB Los Angeles kit.

The Typhoon is a beast, looks like you could fit two Carters in there and still have room.

IIRC, the basis for the Typhoon class was taking two Delta class SSBN pressure hulls side by side and building the outer hull around it. Of course with all sorts of other changes, but the basic sub is made from two big ones combined.

Thanks for the info Stick.  From what I read over various sites, there are several pressure hulls involved in the Typhoon.  Hoped to have the Typhoon finished by the weekend but it's been too cold to paint.

Lewbud,

Youre going like something that goes really really fast LOL... Another one for the first page and looking great. Those 1:700 kits must be fun "weekend" builds to do with good results if you are skilled enough like you obviously are. Great work buddy and i am looking forward to your Typhoon class.

Makes me think of a dutch modeler(Ron, AKA Homeghost) who is currently working on a slightly larger 1:72 scratchbuilt model:

http://www.modelbrouwers.nl/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23608&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Its in dutch so you probably cant understand a word of it but the forumthread contains 53 pages of photographas that tell their own story. Especially the first few pages contain a wealth of information for your build methinks.

Kermit your friendly host

Oh and Ron, if you happen to read this: great work and a pleasure to follow your threads

Kermit,

Did I note a tinge of sarcasm in your post when you said it was "slightly" bigger than my 1/700 beastie?  That thing is freakin HUGE!!!!  If I did the math right, which would be a miracle, that thing's gotta be about 3m long right?  If you frequent that forum, you gotta let me know when he's done.  Since you guessed right about my not speaking Dutch, could you scroll through the posts and find out what he's using for the anechoic tiles please?   It looks like some kind of peel and stick material.  I don't envy him having to do all those tiles.  By the way, thanks for that site, he had some great pics.

Lewbud, it is 1:72 scale like all of his models so your calculation about the size couldnt be far off the mark there. From the look of things he is using the same material for anechoic tiles that he used for his "Kursk". The kind of stickers that schoolkids use to put on their notebooks. Once painted black and with varnish on them they look just like the real thing Ron says.

As for the hull of his model, he is a big fan of using styrofoam covered with balsa wood.

Richard

Richard,

Thanks, I thought that was what he was using.  You wouldn't happen to have a link to his Kursk would you?

Sure mate. The first link is his 1:72 Kursk, the second is his 1:35 type VIIC U-82. Makes me drewl everytime i look at it...

http://www.modelbrouwers.nl/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20129

http://www.modelbrouwers.nl/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11936&highlight=u82

Richard

Hi,

Just finished the initial construction on my VIIC/41 and wanted to share some WIP pics before the first coats of paint go on.

The various components have been dryfitted for the pictures but will be sprayed separately. Also i have not attached the railings on the deck yet in order to have working space once the tower will be glued to the hull.

You can see the deployed "schnorkel" in these pics. Not a periscope

And a close up of the tower with the two 20mm flakzwillings and the 37mm flak gun on the back:

My apologies for the bad pics... had to use flashlight because of bad lighting conditions today...

Richard (who is beginning to get a headache figuring out how to get this beast in his way too small spraying booth...)

Kermit that thing is HUGE ! I can see where you might have trouble fitting it into a paint booth unless the booth is made for a small car. Lotsa nice detail I can see to for you to play with too. Cant wait to see how your build progresses Richard.

vetteman42

Kermit that thing is HUGE ! I can see where you might have trouble fitting it into a paint booth unless the booth is made for a small car. Lotsa nice detail I can see to for you to play with too. Cant wait to see how your build progresses Richard.

 

Thanks Randy. I just sprayed the underside dark grey. Because of the sheer size i had to do this in stages. And guess what.... from the looks of it i will probably want to give it another coat but i used almost a complete tinlet of paint for the first coat LOL. This model likes paint.

Once i have the complete hull painted i will ofcourse post an update for you guys.

But now for something completely different...

This afternoon i went into town for some stuff i needed and i wandered into a local toy store with a small modeling corner, not planning on buying anything really... From the corner of my eye i could spot the 4 foot plus Revell Gato class sub but didnt pay much attention to it as it was out of my budget range.

Just as i wanted to leave again i spotted a big red sticker on the box... HALF price!!!!

So...yes i figured i will probably never ever come across such a sweet deal again so i purchased the kit.... This beast will take quite some wall/ shelf space on my hobby attic... (yes i'm a spoiled brat with a complete attic to litter with my models)

Richard

Here is my Alfa so far. Topsides are Polly Scale Scale black and lower hull is Humbrol Scarlet

And here she is with the Kilo and Akula. I have a GB of my own going on at this point...

Stik, Thats a cute Alfa there any progress sofar? It must be really hard for you small scale guys to get such a model lifelike but the work i've seen sofar is gorgeous! Well done to all.

Note from the host: No, i have not been neglecting you guys but have been transferring to a new ISP plan causing lots of downtime and aggrevation. But i seem to be up and running again. My apologies for the absence.

During the downtime i have had lots of opportunity to work on my 1:72 VIIC/41 and have painted the basic hull. Also added some drybrushing and washes to prepare for the big weathering phase of the build. I will post some pics as soon as i have the time.

Richard

I just recently found some more of my kits after a move and never noticed this GB. Sign me up!

1/700 SkyWave 'Scramble' set. Comes with 2 U.S.N. SSBN-598 George Washington subs, 2 Tu-95 Bears, 2 P2V Neptune's and 4 F-4 Phantoms.

For this GB I will just be doing one George Washington Sub (waterline), and both Neptune's. Will give me something to do between paint drying on my T-34/76.

As I've never built a sub, which color would most closely represent the G.Washington sub? And I've only found one good picture of it. It looks like it has a partially painted red nose but I'm not sure where the red starts.

Josh

Stikpusher man those subs are auh lookin sweet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kermit can you enter my 1/48 Italeri SH-60B Sea Hawk Sub Killer on the front page ?????? Not sure of what markings I will be using but will be sure and let you know. I will get pictures of box art and such up soon.

Thanks Kermit and Vette! Kermit if you think that is small scale, you should see the 1/700 subs...way to small for my tastes and dexterity. No progress on my Alfa since my last update. I was trying to get my Kilo finished in time for last Fridays IPMS meeting, but it did ot happen. Was in something of a model building funk this weekend and I did not want to push it. If the weather co operates (we have been getting hammered with rainstorms and painting area is in my garage), I will have more progress this weekend all the Red subs. My GB within a GB..

Is my request going to work ... ? If not it's ok.

Josh

Josh,

My apologies, i failed to reply to you after adding your entry onto the list on the first post yesterday. OFC OURSE you are very welcome to join the group and wish you lots of fun with your build

Richard

Thanks for the confirmation Richard!

Now, anyone have any idea on the color of the U.S.N. SSBN-598 George Washington? Or what the typical sub hull color is?

Josh

Josh,

That first would suggest a brick red undersides as a sort of antifouling but i am in no means an expert in modern subs and their colours. Maybe one of the other members would have a solution for you....? Ofcourse, putting in some effort and googling/ image googling the george washnington would give some result at least?

Hope you will find some answers soon as i eagerly await your progress pictures

As for my little (...) german WW2 sub i have promised you guys some update pics...:

As i have told you my acrylic undersides color (revell 77, dust grey) ran out so i put on a second coat with my last enamel number 77..... was juuuust barely enough (note from builder: if you buy this kit, expect to use a full bottle of paint on the undersides/ antifouling). After drying i proceeded with a lighter shade of (revell acrylic) grey on the upper hull.

The subsequent instructions told me to spray the deck in revell's number 69 granite grey. I chose to deviate from the instructions here as this shade was particularly greenish grey. I suppose this was to simulate some kind of algea growth on a worn deck.

Reading on the subject though i found out that the germans used to use a very dark (blackish) protective coat/ varnish  on the wooden deck structures and recoating them after every patrol. Furthermore it is a fact that algea tend to make a deck rather slippery and hazardous for the crew to traverse during patrols so it would be highly unlikely for a uboat captain to allow such algea growth to accumulate during a given patrol. This coat would get a lighter shade as time progressed...

To simulate this kind of deck i have chosen to use my own mix of leather brown (wood colour) with a lighter brown and some medium grey to simulate the coated deck. After drying i used a black wash to accentuate the seams between the wooden slats on deck and leaving some of it on various parts of the deck as to simulate the coating to have not worn of fully yet.

After this i have drybrushed some of the non wood panels and hatches in a gunmetal (humbrol enamel) grey and after that a drybrushed a layer of revell's number 83 (enamel) to simulate worn old rust on the deck panels and hatches and also the various flood holes on the hull.

This (in my eyes) finishes the hull and deck for the subsequent weathering with lighter shades of rust and white for accentuating.

Next up will be the painting and finishing of the tower and its gun emplacements...

Hope you guys like my work sofar and i am always open for your suggestions ofcourse

Richard

Josh,

You're kinda limited to black, black or black-ok a really dark grey that resembles black.  I used Tamiya's semigloss black from the can on my Carter and Seawolf, but that's because I really hate mixing paint and cleaning the airbrush.  If you don't like the straight black, you might try aircraft interior black, it's a really dark gray rather than a pure black.  As to the hull red in the pics, that comes and goes depending on its last refit.  If you want to do something truly colorful with a sub, take a gander at this pic www.navsource.org/archives/08/0859805.jpg   Navsource is a great resource and I'd bookmark it if you plan on doing a bunch of US ships.

Thanks for that info! I did actually see that picture. Masking 1/700 might be a tad of a pain, this kit is small but it has some small details that would take a little effort to mask around. (Lazy ... eh, for a sec, lol.)

Josh

I got the SkyWave SSBN-598 George Washington done ... not that it was hard, being 1/700 and all. Still need to figure out the scheme I want to do for the Neptune though.

George Washington, Neptune and Phantom all pre paint.

George Washington with a Polaris A-3. I might try and paint the A-3's black markings.

Side view of SSBN-598 George Washington.

I really wish there was more I could do with it but being so small and all there really isn't anything I can think of doing. If anyone has any suggestions throw them at me because I wouldn't mind touching it up.

And just to clarify, the Neptune's are both 1/700 scale and the sub is a George Washington class submarine. It was the first GW class sub developed.

Josh

That's unusual that a waterline model would have a missile launching option, since US subs always launched underwater. The Soviets had missile subs that could launch on the surface, but I don't think US subs would even be able to because of how the firing sequence works. Nice work though, I like it!

I've been a bit delayed getting started but I hope to get the HSL started in a day or two, about time too, I see the subs are running amuck.

lewbud

You're kinda limited to black, black or black-ok a really dark grey that resembles black. 

Sounds like Henry Ford built them. The line for the Model T was "you can have any color you want as long as it is black."

Managed to visit our house and storage over the weekend so dug out most of my stash down there.  Now have the Airfix Leander at hand and wondering whether I should order some PE from White Ensign.