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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:46 PM

Vetteman: I've got one of the old SS Streak Eagle sheets around somewhere. It came with two schemes and I built the other one so the SE decals should be all there. The bad news is that was years ago and don't know where the sheet is, hold on and I'll see if I can hunt it down.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by NiceFit on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:35 PM

JMart - Thanks a bunch for the links on seam work. I will reference them. Yes, there is a Michael's here with an abundant supply of Revell P-51Ds. You're right, you can't beat that coupon price!

Maxfax - Thank you for the compliment on my Mustang build. I appreciate it. I can't wait to see some WIP photos.

Can anyone tell me the name of the auto body filler product and where to purchase it? I take it is better or easier to use than the hobby putty (like Testors Contour Putty)?

Respectfully, Dobby

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Posted by jmabx on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:57 PM

Trying to get caught up here... may have to go back a few pages but some nice work here.

Nicefit - I must say, that Mustang came out looking beautiful! Especially being that old Revell monster. A lot of work but it paid off in the end. Well done! Yes

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:02 PM

Gamera that would be fantastic if you have them, I will hold off and wait for ya.

Nicefit I use Bondo Glazing putty it doesn't flake off like the Squadron or Testors putty does and I think is much easier to see too. Anyway you can get it at most autoparts stores and I think Walmart carries it too. Heres a picture the tube for  ya. HTH

It wet sands really nice too

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:45 PM

Hi Randy,

I have at least one of the Superscale sheets in my collection, the 1:48 I think, I can check the number for you and you can search with better targetting. It'll have been OOP for a long time and eBay is your best bet. There are literally hundreds of sheets going through eBay all the time so the odds are good that it'll come up at some point -- though whether in time for your build is another matter.

I also have the old Revell kit, a sealed/mint example. I knew it sure wouldn't be the best F-15 but I had to have it, because I remember looking at it when I was a teenager and wishing I knew how to achieve a finish like that. When Model Master brought out their Metalizer range in the late 70s - early 80s period, that kit was the demonstration piece, it used to be on the inside back cover of magazines at the time, a whole page (B&W) pic of the beast... It's become rather a collector's item, not for building, just for having! A suite of mods to  the bext available early-type Eagle plus AM decals is the way to go.

Great, the ICM MiG isn't the easiest build but she's certainly a good one. I wish I'd had time to devote to mine but with everything happening lately I've ended up with far more projects in play that I can possibly do, and the MiG hasn't progressed. It's clear weather today, maybe I could spray the cockpit at long last...

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:07 PM

Vetteman: Found the decals. Afraid they're a little rough and there is a small amount of soiling but they look usable. Still looking for the instruction sheet.

If you want them sent me a message with your address. No charge, I'm never going to use them anyway. Big Smile

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:58 PM

Randy, glad I could help!!!Toast When I find more stuff will pass it on.Smile

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by NiceFit on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:10 PM

vetteman42

Nicefit I use Bondo Glazing putty it doesn't flake off like the Squadron or Testors putty does and I think is much easier to see too. Anyway you can get it at most autoparts stores and I think Walmart carries it too.

It wet sands really nice too

Vetteman - Thanks! I'll go pick some up.

Respectfully, Dobby

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:57 AM

Gamera thats huge, I owe you big time and, thank you very very much. PM inbound

Thunderbolt379 thanks for the heads up and the advise. Gamera had kindly offered a decal sheet I can use for the Streak Eagle. Now to find the correct burner cans, I read somewhere that CAM offers the correct set if they are still around.

I am stuck on my MiG-3 but will get back to it in a week or so I think. I will be posting a pic or two of the troubled spot maybe someone will have an idea or two to help me out as I keep drawing a blank when I look at it.

Simpilot34 you have been a huge help my friend, but its still your fault well partially anyways Stick out tongue Actually I cant wait to get started on this one. I may have to push a couple of other builds to the back burner.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:00 PM

Finshed up the P-35 last night. Overall a pretty good kit though the detail is a bit sparse and the canopy just does'nt look right for some reason but still not a bad kit to build considering the cost.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by NiceFit on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:16 PM

Soulcrusher - Well done on the P-35! The finish looks outstanding as does your seam work. I hope my Texan looks as good. Did you paint the black wing stripes and is that a darker aluminum color I see along the leading edge of the wings (in next-to-last photo)?

Respectfully, Dobby

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Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:49 PM

Very good looking P-35!! YesYes

  

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:15 AM

Soulcrusher you have gone and done it to me again geeze Confused Just like you did with the Hispano in the first NMF group. That finish is just plain stunning my friend and I cant make up my mind which picture to post on the front page..............again.  All kidding aside that is one sweet P-35 and you are the Talon master. Bow Down

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by soulcrusher on Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:24 AM

Thanks guys. I think I am getting the hang of these Talon Paints.

NiceFit I see the color shift but that is the lighting causing the shade. The cowl has a lower gloss sheen to it and I did not buff the paint on the canopy to give it a sifferent color.

Thank you B17guy for the kind words.

Thanks Randy. I know you will pick the best on for the front page.Though I am partial to either number 1 or 3.  I have to go do my duty at the Battle of Britian GB but I might come back and build another. This NMF stuff is addicting. I will defintetly be watching. I am interested if the other that bought the Talon paints will be as happy as I have been with them.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:53 AM

Soulcrusher I was thinking the first picture for the front page but I like a couple of the others too. I recieved my Talon paints the other day and will play with them a bit. I was planning to use them on the Streak Eagle, hope I can pull it off half as well as you do.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:23 AM

WOW Crushlikins that finish is beautiful!!!! Outstanding work mate!!!! One surely to be proud of!!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by soulcrusher on Friday, July 2, 2010 3:10 AM

Randy I think you will enjoy the Talon paints as much as I do using them. The one mistake I have made several time and I would warn you about is once you have polished it up all nice you realy can not handle it to much with your bare hands. It does not leave fingerprints but for some reason it will discolor the paint sometimes. Almost like aluminum when it is heated.

Richie thanks. I  am glad you like the P-35 so much.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, July 2, 2010 5:14 PM

Man I love posting finished pictures on the front page

Soulcrusher sorry it took a couple of days to get your picture posted Embarrassed but its proudly posted now.

Yeah I am looking forward to trying the Talon paints and powders, in fact I am thinking a quickie build may be in order to see how they work for me. Dont want to blow the F-15 ya know. Anyway I am thinking of doing a P-51D that I can set next to the foiled one I did for giggles. I have to get going on the Travel Air too as it is just waiting for paint. Oh and thanks for the heads up I wander should I add a coat of future over the talon paint so the dark spots wont happen ? My models get handled alot ya know Stick out tongue dog fights and such in the Mancave.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, July 2, 2010 5:40 PM

Nice work SC! She is a beauty!

I like the Alclad II but I may have to try the Talon some day, especially after seeing the way yours looks. Yes

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, July 2, 2010 8:11 PM

Great work SC! You are a NMF natural!

I am calling my build finished,

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Decals look horrible but they are still drying from Solvaset. Thanks for the GB Vetteman.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, July 2, 2010 10:42 PM

Raptor, she's a beauty mate!!!! Very nice finish!!! Hope those decals behave and settle down when they are dry. WELL DONE!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, July 2, 2010 10:52 PM

Crusher- Man, that is a sweet build, love that finish!  I tried the Talon paints a couple of years back but just didn't care for them.  I see you have discovered a secret to them!  Very well done.

Andrew- Another impressive build from you!  Don't see that one modeled as often as we should.

Frank 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Saturday, July 3, 2010 12:27 AM

Randy I am going to do a test on a Hurricane wing I have lying around. I am going to experiment with panel line washes and see if a coat of Future will ruin or preserve the finish.

Jeremy thanks buddy!

Andrew the Spirit of St Louis looks great. The cowl panels came out nice.

Frank what did you not like about the Talon paints? The only thing that is a bit of a PIA is trying not to make a mess with the polishing powder. It seems to get on everything if you are not carefull. I love the sheen you can obtain with the polishing powders. It looks very realistic to my eyes.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by NiceFit on Saturday, July 3, 2010 8:58 AM

raptordriver - Nice job on the Spirit of St. Louis. Charles Linberg would be proud! Wrap-around can be challenging and frustrating. We do the best we can, don't we?

soulcrusher - Please let us know how your panel line wash turns out. I used a simple acrylic wash on my Revell P-51. it didn't seem to add much pop since most of the detail was raised. Only around the flaps and landing gear/wells was the desired effect. The Future and wash did not degrade my NMF, but the finish wasn't that shiny to begin with.

Respectfully, Dobby

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Posted by soulcrusher on Saturday, July 3, 2010 6:55 PM

NiceFit

soulcrusher - Please let us know how your panel line wash turns out. I used a simple acrylic wash on my Revell P-51. it didn't seem to add much pop since most of the detail was raised. Only around the flaps and landing gear/wells was the desired effect. The Future and wash did not degrade my NMF, but the finish wasn't that shiny to begin with.

I tried using my Warpig washes for the panel lines once before and it took some of the shine of the panels where ever the wash sat on the Talon paints. It might work better with the Alclad paints. I will definetely let you know how my experiment goes. I am thinking of trying some India Ink mabye. The decals settle down great over the Talon paints though thats for sure. Once you polish it the surface is so smooth even the clear carrier film even disappears with no top coat.

Soulcrusher:swordfight:

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, July 3, 2010 10:43 PM

Quick question

all the local Hobby Lobby has for paints is the ModelMaster Range. What kind of priming would I need for these paints?

Thanks

OWL

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Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, July 4, 2010 12:17 AM

CallSignOWL

Quick question

all the local Hobby Lobby has for paints is the ModelMaster Range. What kind of priming would I need for these paints?

Thanks

OWL

If you are asking about the primer for the Talon paints no primer is needed. It goes directly onto the plastic. If you do want to primed the model you must use a gloss paint. If you do paint directly onto the plastic make sure you polish and areas of the plastic that has been sanded or filled otherwise the fine scratches will show.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, July 4, 2010 1:19 AM

Raptordriver as always I really like your model of the Spirit of Saint Louis it is one we dont see modeled much and you did her justice. Your builds just keep getting better and better Toast And you are building them fast too, just amazing. Your finished build is posted on the front page.

Soulcrusher I will be watching your experiment closely as I just dont see how future would hurt the Talon finish.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Sunday, July 4, 2010 8:53 AM

no, Im not asking about the Talon paints, Soulcrusher. But I would like to give them a try someday. I see a lot af great results from using them.  but the only paint I have access to right now is the Model Master line. 

I grabbed various metal shades in the MM Acrylic range, and was wondering what kind of priming would be best for them.  a random gloss coat, black? or none at all..

Thanks!

OWL

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Posted by IBuild148 on Sunday, July 4, 2010 11:15 AM

Soulcrusher,

NICE job on your P-35!Yes

IBuildOne48

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