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  • From: Green Bay, WI
Posted by redraider56 on Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:28 PM

and btw this is the plane I'll be modeling

"Jasper Joker II" a yellow nose mustang flew by Lt. Donald F Vulgamore of the 361st FG

e9-vbar.jpg picture by redraider5600

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:09 PM

jmabx

Doogs - I'm starting to think that modeling is your full time job... and I don't mean dancing around in your skivvies! Stick out tongue  Bravo for trying out the vac conopies! I've got a couple of S-3s I want to build that I have vac conopies for but I'm afraid to try. Embarrassed

If only! Unfortunately my day job keeps me way too busy to even think about that.

I usually hit the bench around 10-10:30, depending on when the kids finally fall asleep, and come in around 1. So two and a half, three hours a night or so. Sometimes I get a lot done. Other times...not so much. But I do try to take a picture or two as I'm wrapping up each night, otherwise I'd lose track of everything!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:14 PM

Aggieman

 

Monogram makes/made a Wildcat?

 

Absolutely!  While it was not as detailed as the Tamiya or HobbyBoss kits, it was a kit I built many times as a kid.  Folding wings were the big feature of that kit.  I actually have one of these in my stash along with a Tamiya and HobbyBoss.

Huh! I built a TON of Monogram kits as a kid and don't remember ever coming across a Wildcat. Pretty sure I built a Wildcat at some point, but I think it might have been a Testors?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Nebraska, USA
Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:37 PM

Thanks everybody, this is one of the tougher kits I have built so far. (well, out of the builds that I didn't just slap paint on and call it good!)  The plastic on the wing halves (top and bottom) was the usual thickness, so it required sanding down before gluing together. But after that, the trailing edges were still too thick for my tastes, so I sanded them down again. Looks a little better now....

jmabx:  I have the opposite fears, I guess. I'm afraid to start on the more detailed kits because I'm afraid I'll muck em up somehow!   My POV is that these bears are skill builders and I can take what I learned from them and apply them to the nicer, more expensive kits!! Wink

aww, redraider56, don't let that stop you! I'm in college too, but just an hour or so each day of modeling still fits into my schedule!

 

OWL

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:48 PM

CallSignOWL

aww, redraider56, don't let that stop you! I'm in college too, but just an hour or so each day of modeling still fits into my schedule!

What amazes me is that you have the space!

I remember my sophomore year in college I scored a "suite" with two friends, and I got the single room, which was I think something like 7 ft. by 8 ft. When I went to sleep, I had to put the pile of crap lying on my bed on my chair, and when I got up, I had to move it back to the bed. Because there was no where to put anything, and we weren't allowed to put shelves into the cinderblock walls.

I've never once missed dorm life. Still can't fathom how you manage to build though!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Nebraska, USA
Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:56 PM

DoogsATX: I have a 2 foot by 2 foot area on my desk that has my kit on it. Tools are scattered on my desk, but my tool and paint box have a shelf to set on....although right now they are on the floor under my feet.  I'm pretty used to building in a small area.   Back home, I didn't even have a desk. I just built on my floor!   Cool    if you look at my WIP pics, that green mat is pretty much all the area I'm using!

 

OWL

 

EDIT:  here is my work area at home. I'd pretty much just plop down in the middle there and work away!

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:09 PM

DoogsATX

 Aggieman:

 

Monogram makes/made a Wildcat?

 

Absolutely!  While it was not as detailed as the Tamiya or HobbyBoss kits, it was a kit I built many times as a kid.  Folding wings were the big feature of that kit.  I actually have one of these in my stash along with a Tamiya and HobbyBoss.

 

Huh! I built a TON of Monogram kits as a kid and don't remember ever coming across a Wildcat. Pretty sure I built a Wildcat at some point, but I think it might have been a Testors?

Yes Monogram did produce a 1/48 Wildcat. It was sort of a hodge podge featuring some FM-1 details (folding wings and four wing guns) as well as cowl flaps from a F4F-3, a later non cuffed propellor, and no underwing oil coolers under fusealge windows or wheelwell or cockpit detail. Until Tamiya's F4F came along, it was the only game in town in 1/48.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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  • From: Green Bay, WI
Posted by redraider56 on Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:31 PM

umm yea....no room here for anything in my tiny dorm room, so I have to wait until I go home every now and then to work on them

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:33 PM

must...post...photos...too...lazy * collapses from laziness*

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Friday, September 17, 2010 7:56 AM

redraider56

umm yea....no room here for anything in my tiny dorm room, so I have to wait until I go home every now and then to work on them

 

not even on your floor?!  LOL!  Have fun with school. Smile

 

I didnt get much done yesterday ( I never do on Thursdays--very busy day) but I'll start on the detail in the main gear wells. They are pretty bare!

 

OWL

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Friday, September 17, 2010 4:38 PM

i just got a notification that Squadron has re-shipped out my order for Foil Adhesive....but I called them over 2 weeks ago!  Does it normally take that long to get a corrected order out?

 

OWL

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, September 17, 2010 5:16 PM

I'm not liking squadron muchany more either

BTW, anyone know what the "DS!" means under the backorder column on my order?

 The following items have been shipped to:  MATT BOURKE                     
                                                                               
                                                                     Quantity                                  Quantity  
Item #          Description                         Ordered           Backorder   Shipped                
                                                                             
AN48655         YELLOW NOSE MUSTANGS PT1    1                      DS!                  1                       
                                                                                          
TD48453         P-51D MUSTANG COCKPIT SET     1                                               1
                                                                         

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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  • From: Brisbane
Posted by Julez72 on Friday, September 17, 2010 6:54 PM

I have no idea Redraider, I've never had any issues with squadron and normally recieve my orders in about 10 days where it takes usualy 14 days to get orders from Victoria or New south Wales...

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, September 17, 2010 7:12 PM

redraider56

I'm not liking squadron muchany more either

I only order from Squadron when I absolutely have to. And even then half the time I just have my LHS order stuff for me. I can't stand their website, and despite promises of being notified when stuff ships, I've never received such a notification from them. It usually takes 8-10 days to get my stuff, and their only three hours away.

Meanwhile, I placed an order with Sprue Brothers on Wednesday and got it today...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Brisbane
Posted by Julez72 on Friday, September 17, 2010 7:36 PM

I understand your frustration when you live in the same state, i avoid the Australian mail order companies for the same reasons, 2 weeks to recieve an order from the next State annoys me but if i want to do an Australian subject it's the only choice....Have never tried Sprue brothers before....

 

 

 

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  • From: Green Bay, WI
Posted by redraider56 on Friday, September 17, 2010 7:54 PM

DoogsATX

Meanwhile, I placed an order with Sprue Brothers on Wednesday and got it today...

I am jumping on the spruebrothers bandwagon.  Their customer service is great and I find myself ordering from them more and more.....very fast shipping.

I just tracked my squadron order and it says it arrived at the local post office this mornning, so it should get to my college suite box soon.....i ordered last friday i believe

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Friday, September 17, 2010 8:52 PM

Ok, so first up, some detail photos of a Mig-21 MF (the real thing) for whoever needs them.

As you can see its been pretty badly damaged over the years. Owned by a property developer as a marketing tool and a toy. plenty of 3inch strap damage(from transportation) Bits are missing. tires have been flat for years. Its been sold to someone, so its behind a fence and the guys at turners were highly unhelpfull. Oh well. hope these help someone.

Now for my model pics.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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  • From: Crawfordsville, Indiana
Posted by Wabashwheels on Friday, September 17, 2010 9:02 PM

I've ordered from Squadron since the early 80's (that's 1980's for you college kids), and they've been very, very  good to me.  But I also understand that there are some very good online shops.  It boils down to what you feel comfortable with and what kind of history you develop with your suppliers.  I've heard great things about Sprue Brothers, but Squadron has given me great service for 30 years, they have a great monthly flyer, and they have great sales.  They still get my business.  Try their customer service.  They have some great people.  Rick.

 

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  • From: Rhode Island
Posted by jmabx on Friday, September 17, 2010 9:22 PM

Nice pictures of the MiG, Mikey! I'm definitely going to save a few of them for reference. Toast 

The foiling looks like it's working out great for you. Keep it up! Yes

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by Aggieman on Friday, September 17, 2010 10:03 PM

I've ordered from Squadron a lot since the mid '90s and only had one issue over the years, which a simple phone call rectified quickly.  I only more recently discovered Sprue Brothers and have been ordering from them a lot lately, and am very impressed with their delivery.  Their prices are usually a little better than Squadron, but a lot of that is because I have to pay Texas state sales tax through Squadron but not through SB.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, September 17, 2010 10:17 PM

Just weighing in on the Squadron discussion. I placed regular orders with them from about 1997 onward for around ten years, and their service was first rate. I had packages go missing on about two occasions, one of them very large, and as I bought their standard insurance (which for .95c is a good deal) everything was replaced no bother. On a couple of occasions incorrect items were shipped and teir policy was keep them as a gift, and the correct items were dispatched free of charge.

Yes, their website is not quite as intuitive as it could be and I'm not fond of their search function, but I;ve come to work with it. I'd have rated their website at least as friendly as Lucky Model's in Hong Kong.

I've not placed many orders in the years since the US ended surface mail, as it's just too darn expensive -- the airmail takes the cream off all specials, and frankly the price of goods has got pretty expensive in the last few years, but overall my impression of Squadron is that they're still very much a market leader in the hbby.

 

Mike/TB379

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, September 17, 2010 10:47 PM

I guess the only real beef I've had with squadron is that when I'm looking for a particular product, they always have the highest price, but sometimes its the only place I can find the item

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 HK B-17G "Man-O-War II"

On Deck: 1/48 Tamiya P-38H, 1/48 Revell PV-1

 

 

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:29 AM

Great Pics Scorpiomikey!!  that has to be one of the best shots of the exhaust that Ive been able to find! Propeller

I'm not upset with Squadron, the original order arrived very quickly (even if it was the wrong item) and their customer service person I talked to was very helpful. I just thought the package would have been shipped by now....   Hmm

 

OWL

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:27 AM

Strange how we all have different experiences with different retailers. I wonder how much of the variability comes from the USPS...

In other news, I spent 2.5 hours last night doing this. Ugh. My eyes and back are KILLING me this morning. Also discovered a serious downside of vacform canopies that may keep me from going back that way except in rare cases - they're so thin that making out the frame lines can be really difficult. Didn't anticipate that!

Masking with bare metal foil up front seemed to go a lot better! I think for small, irregular panes it might be the way to go. Have to see how it paints up first, of course...

Tonight it'll be final detail construction (antenna mast and such), then masking the tails and priming for the yellow wings and rings. Getting closer to the NMF! At this point, I'm thinking probably Tuesday or Wednesday.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:42 AM

Great work all around guys and gals!

Doogs- yeah masking canopies - ick! I generally just buy the pre-cut masks from Eduard and others now days. They're expensive but I swear they're worth it.

Scorpy- great photos! Now I want my own MiG-21! I could be the ultimate white trash if I put it up on cinder blocks in the middle of my lawn!!! Heart

'You got three buicks up on blocks!?!!?! HAH!! I got a friggin' MIG!!! BEAT THAT!!!'

Still moving forward slowly. Keep getting dust or lint or something in the paint and having to sand it out and repaint. Thinking I should invest in a 'clean' room like they use to build computer chips. I wipe the model with Polly-S Prep which is supposed to be anti-static with no result. And I've become a nut about cleaning my airbrush but still the krap gets in the paint (sigh). 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:15 AM

Gamera

'You got three buicks up on blocks!?!!?! HAH!! I got a friggin' MIG!!! BEAT THAT!!!'

AAAHAHAHAH!!!  I think I peed my pants! Tongue Tied

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:28 AM

[quote user="Gamera"

Doogs- yeah masking canopies - ick! I generally just buy the pre-cut masks from Eduard and others now days. They're expensive but I swear they're worth it.

[/quote]

Totally agreed. The masks aren't perfect, but they're better than I am. Unfortunately, I can't get masks for any of the four kits I've got underway. Eduard theoretically makes masks for the Wildcats and their Yak-3. I've even got part #s, but the only place I can order them from is Eduard - and I'm not dropping $20 for shipping pieces of paper.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:21 PM

Scorpiomikey thanks for taking the pictures and posting them, I too will be saving them just in case YesYes I see you decided to foil the tough parts first, nice foil work you have dun there keep it up. Your Super Sabre is gonna be a show stopper for sure.

DoogsATX vacuform canopys are the only time I use foil for masking, can't see the frames when I use tape. The masking looks well done, cant wait to see them on the cats and all painted up.

 

Gamera

 

'You got three buicks up on blocks!?!!?! HAH!! I got a friggin' MIG!!! BEAT THAT!!!'

Gamera I was laffin so hard I spotted over this comment, kinda the ultimate Redneck dont ya think ? Reminded me of when I lived in Texas, Boyd Texas actually, the thing at the time was how nice and shiney your lawn tractor was. There were lots of fancy ones around with chrome rims and nice seats an all. I think most took better care of the lawn traqctor than they did their pickup trucks. Then the California kid shows up and puts a nice high backed leather chair on his lawn tractor, along with a sun shade, stereo cassette player, with a large beer or ice tea cup holder, couldn't find room for a small cooler on it, and a windshield.  Was told I fit right in after that LOL. Of course the ultimate was a John Deer with a brush hog on it.

Guys and young Lady I cant say I have ever had trouble with Squadron, my shipments usually take about a week, my only trouble is they sometimes don't have what I need in stock and it takes forever for them to restock.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:14 PM

Scorpy: sorry meant to compliment you on the foil as well but the MiG distracted me. It really looks terrific.

Sorry about your pants guys!

I love the story about the lawn mowers! That's one of the differences I make between a 'redneck' and 'white trash'. A redneck will go though some pretty extreme measures for a great looking lawn. Hank on 'King of the Hill' was a great example and I can certainly see 'pimping out' a mower. On the hand most of what I'd call white trash either don't own a working mower or are too lazy to use it since most of their lawns don't look like they've been mowed since the Eisenhower Administration.  Wink

BTW: If I should get a MiG to go in the yard I'm going to put Christmas lights on it and turn them on 365 nights every year.......

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:29 PM

haha! You guys are a hoot!! Big Smile

I got teh main gear wells detailed a bit.  I used sections of a paperclip and some styrene bits.

 

OWL

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