Variable Geometry: the Swing Wing GB

oh the wing seam was there all right as were alot of others :(. im by no maens and good at filling but i am improving which is good:)

lol about the pulleys it really does look like it doesnt it. i used a camera setting that gives more depth of field which means things further away are kept in focus more and the line of filler lines up perfectly with a ladder and the garage door haha

iv got 3 more possible entries after this is finished too :)

heres another entry though i did it in 1 night over the weekend i pulled it apart and remade it into this

 heres what it looked like when i started





and now

pordoi

Nice job on the wing seam, Eatthis.  It is interesting how everyone has dealt with the size of this model.  Although I have to admit that pulleys and slings is unique. 

on the wing.  I don't see the seam line on the top that Don and I had. 

I think those pulleys you speak of look like the cables for his garage door......No more whisky for you! 

pordoi

No comment on the camo.  I'll wait to see what you come up with.  Although I did see a Flanker in the background...,  how about an aggressor Bone in Flanker 3-tone Blue/gray?

That would look awesome!  That scheme now has 2 votes.

pordoi

Been there;...  Done that!     I do remember that it was a bit difficult to comb my hair in the morning.  Lost a bit of skin trying to pry the bottle from my hands the next morning; at least I think I did.  I don't really remember....   

  Par for the course I suppose.

pordoi

You just wait.  Eatthis will put a B-1B in the GB before you know it....   That will make 4 Bones.  Givin' the Tomcat guys a run for the money, eh??

It's great.  Four Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer builds.  Never expected that when I signed up for the GB.  I figured there would be You and Me building the Bones and a bunch of Tomcats.  Nice that there has been so many different subjects so far.

Nice job on the wing seam, Eatthis.  It is interesting how everyone has dealt with the size of this model.  Although I have to admit that pulleys and slings is unique. 

No comment on the camo.  I'll wait to see what you come up with.  Although I did see a Flanker in the background...,  how about an aggressor Bone in Flanker 3-tone Blue/gray?

Don

macattack80

 

Its even worse if you invite CA glue to the party.  Then you end up glueing you hand to the bottle of whisky.  You may as well drink the rest of it at that point....

Been there;...  Done that!     I do remember that it was a bit difficult to comb my hair in the morning.  Lost a bit of skin trying to pry the bottle from my hands the next morning; at least I think I did.  I don't really remember....   

You just wait.  Eatthis will put a B-1B in the GB before you know it....   That will make 4 Bones.  Givin' the Tomcat guys a run for the money, eh??

Don

can i add a whiff f111 that a pulled apart and remade it in 1 night at the weekend?

the colour would give it away

ps dont assume its a single colour camo ;)

pordoi

You betcha! 

And from experience, I know that scotch and PE don't go well together at all.  So beware...

Its even worse if you invite CA glue to the party.  Then you end up glueing you hand to the bottle of whisky.  You may as well drink the rest of it at that point....

pordoi

Eatthis has done some unusual things on his builds.  I'm looking forward to seeing what's up.

  He has already built some nice models.   If he builds the Bone in time it would have to be some kind of record I would imagine.

balls my secrets out already :(

macattack80

pordoi:

I always liked a strong finish. 

 

 

Is that the scotch talkin'? 

 

You betcha! 

And from experience, I know that scotch and PE don't go well together at all.  So beware...

Eatthis has done some unusual things on his builds.  I'm looking forward to seeing what's up.

Don

pordoi

I always liked a strong finish. 

 

Is that the scotch talkin'? 

I have be plugging away at the PE parts.  I hope to get some painting done in the next couple of days. 

eatthis

i might let the cat out of the bag soon about what im doing

You building a model airplane or somethin'? 

OK, gentlemen.  The show is all yours.  Lets see what you've got, or can do in the final weeks of this GB.  I always liked a strong finish. 

Don

i might let the cat out of the bag soon about what im doing

macattack80

pordoi:

Any progress is good!  A couple of photos of your build may spur some others to give us updates.  We have I think three F-14s being built right now, so a side-by-side cpmparison would make for some interesting reading. 

 guess that one could cut off the Aim-7 if necessary, but it does seem a bit silly to mold them on the pylons.  I also would have thought that your exterior PE set (did you get that one or just the cockpit?) would have added bits to the pylon, which might force you to remove the Sparrows. 

 

Don

 

 

I agree about the 3 Tomcat builds.  It's a good way to learn how others tackle the same issues.

The PE set has parts for the cockpit and exterior.  It has a few parts of the Sidewinder missle rails and the Pheonix missle pallets but nothing for the Sparrow launchers.  I hope I got the terminology right on those.

I will probably cut off the swing wing mechanism on the wings and cut a groove in the wing attachment area.  This way I can paint them seperately and get good coverage.

 

Funny, my Revell F-14A has the same molded on Sparrows as well. And one of the tails to the Sparrows is broken!!! That's gonna be fun. May have to cut it off. Hope to get back to my Tomcat soon. I did order the Fightertown Decals for VF-1. They came in on Wednesday and they look awsome. I'll try to post some pics of the decals tomorrow. Bout done with my recert and my second job is slowing down so i'll be back with it real soon.

pordoi

Any progress is good!  A couple of photos of your build may spur some others to give us updates.  We have I think three F-14s being built right now, so a side-by-side cpmparison would make for some interesting reading. 

 guess that one could cut off the Aim-7 if necessary, but it does seem a bit silly to mold them on the pylons.  I also would have thought that your exterior PE set (did you get that one or just the cockpit?) would have added bits to the pylon, which might force you to remove the Sparrows. 

 

Don

 

I agree about the 3 Tomcat builds.  It's a good way to learn how others tackle the same issues.

The PE set has parts for the cockpit and exterior.  It has a few parts of the Sidewinder missle rails and the Pheonix missle pallets but nothing for the Sparrow launchers.  I hope I got the terminology right on those.

I will probably cut off the swing wing mechanism on the wings and cut a groove in the wing attachment area.  This way I can paint them seperately and get good coverage.

4 tomcats im gonna do my revel 1/32 jobbie when im done with the phantom

Any progress is good!  A couple of photos of your build may spur some others to give us updates.  We have I think three F-14s being built right now, so a side-by-side cpmparison would make for some interesting reading. 

 guess that one could cut off the Aim-7 if necessary, but it does seem a bit silly to mold them on the pylons.  I also would have thought that your exterior PE set (did you get that one or just the cockpit?) would have added bits to the pylon, which might force you to remove the Sparrows. 

Don

I will attempt to get some interest going in the GB so here are some progress pics of where I am at so far in the F-14 build.  Keep in mind that I still have quite a bit of work left.  I haven't got much done.

Here is the cockpit tub with some of the PE parts attached

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A different angle

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The instrument panel ready for PE parts.  The detail has been removed as needed

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The missles.  Good thing I wanted to have 2 AIM-7 Sparrow's on this bird.  They are molded onto the wing glove pylons! 

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The missles went together without  any trouble. 

macattack80

I started work on the Tomcat. 

As of now I have the weapons and wings assembled.  A little putty here and there to smooth out yet but not too bad of a fit. 

I also started work on the kit parts to prepare them for the PE parts.  That means some sanding and cutting.  It's not a color PE set but it should paint up nice.  I will get some pics posted ASAP.

Sounds good, Kevin.  Post some pics; things have been kind of quiet around here lately.  Still have about 5 weeks to go, so there's still time for plenty of action. 

Don

I started work on the Tomcat. 

As of now I have the weapons and wings assembled.  A little putty here and there to smooth out yet but not too bad of a fit. 

I also started work on the kit parts to prepare them for the PE parts.  That means some sanding and cutting.  It's not a color PE set but it should paint up nice.  I will get some pics posted ASAP.

macattack80

The True Details seats arrived today!!!  YAY!  I planned on closing the canopy but the cockpit might look good enough to keep it open. 

OK, just had to respond as it is to 1000th post to this GB.  But that said, really looking forward to seeing this build.  I've liked the one or two things from true Details that I've worked with, so no surprise that you'll have fun with yours.

Don

The True Details seats arrived today!!!  YAY!  I planned on closing the canopy but the cockpit might look good enough to keep it open. 

pordoi

OK, I've put on my bio-containment suit, grabbed a beer and a bowl of popcorn.  On with the show!! 

 

I will try and make it a good one.

macattack80

The Eduard PE set for the Revell 1/48 F-14D arrived today.  WOOHOO!  It corrects the RIO's cockpit panel and add much needed detail to the engines and replaces dodads here and there too. 

So with the True Details seats, Steel Beach ECM blister, and Eduard PE set I should be all set to get the party started. 

Yes, the infection is spreading....aaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!

OK, I've put on my bio-containment suit, grabbed a beer and a bowl of popcorn.  On with the show!! 

Don

The Eduard PE set for the Revell 1/48 F-14D arrived today.  WOOHOO!  It corrects the RIO's cockpit panel and add much needed detail to the engines and replaces dodads here and there too. 

So with the True Details seats, Steel Beach ECM blister, and Eduard PE set I should be all set to get the party started. 

Yes, the infection is spreading....aaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!

eatthis

thanks alot mate tbh the engine nacelles annoyed me far more because i followed the instructions and glued 1 half to the body then the other half to that it left a bloody great gap all round that there was just noway of closing.

in hindsight i shouldve built the nacelles as a complete unit then fitted the whole thing to the plane grrrrrr

No problem at all. 

I believe that Don and I assembled the engine nacelles as subassemblies first.  It did make seam removal a bit easier.  I am sure that you can clean it up while they are attached.  It is probably just a bit more difficult.  The nacelles had fit problems all around.  It took a lot of sanding to get the forward piece to sit flush with the main nacelle sections.

The huge seams are not at the fault of the builder.  Don't think it is you.  The kit has many big fit problems.   Like Don said.  You need a lot of putty and sanding sticks.  A bottle of CA glue won't be bad either.

The big problems of this kit are pin marks and seams.  There are seams in every kit to clean up but these are more like trenches.  All the pin marks are on sides with the details.  The reverse side, that won't be seen, are nice and smooth.

iv done the same with the panel lines/alignment im just not good enough to make it very good so its tough lol

the pivot occured to me when i came to glue it together how do i glue the actual pivot together without it getting into the wings and siezing the wings? drill a bloody great hole through it so i can get to both sides of the pivot from outside ie after the body went together it worked a treat too 1 wing is easier to swing than tother but the pivot itself is rock solid

i tried to prize the nacelle halves off but theres no chance id snap the body before theyd give i put too much glue on them lol i think iv hidden the gap though

eatthis

 

 

panel gap anybody????????

....... 

that hole was drilled from inside so i could glue the top and bottom half of the wing pivots better its rock solid now and iv filled the hole in

Oh, forgot to tell you that you'll also need alot of sanding sticks and putty.    I can't believe that anyone could do anything to prevent that gap.  Just look at how misaligned those panel lines are. Same on my build; I re-scribed some and just left others as they were. 

Also, nice job with the wing pivots.  Wish I had  thought of that.    I'd still have swing wings if I did.  Sorry to hear about the nacelles.  Any chance you can cut them off?

Don

thanks alot mate tbh the engine nacelles annoyed me far more because i followed the instructions and glued 1 half to the body then the other half to that it left a bloody great gap all round that there was just noway of closing.

in hindsight i shouldve built the nacelles as a complete unit then fitted the whole thing to the plane grrrrrr