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60th Anniversary Korean War Group Build- extended for the duration

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Posted by Gregbbear on Saturday, July 3, 2010 9:30 PM

John, I was looking through my books today and found a picture of a HR.3 WG719 Dragonfly.  That is what the caption says.  It looks like a HOS3.  It is flying above the HMS Triumph before deployment according to the caption.  I wish I could share it with you but my scanner is acting up.  Pain in the butt, I tell you.  Neat picture though, it is superimposed over a picture of a Fairey Firefly AS5 of 817 Sq, RAN on the deck of the HMAS Sydney.  Both are black and white photos.  The same book had a nice color photo of a USMC nmf R4Q, also known as the C-119.  Again, I am sorry I couldn't get them scanned.

Happy birthday USA!

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, July 3, 2010 7:34 PM

I have added all the interior pieces to the inside of the fuselage halves and their ready to glue together

Italeri instructions suggest glueing the front landing gear doors to the underside of the cockpit flooring , however when I dry fitted the fuselage halves together the landing gear doors seem to prevent the fuselage halves from fitting together at the front section . So I have decided to add them after . I added some weight to the nose cone and I had another look in the spares box and found some bomb trolley's and figures , If someone knows the correct color scheme for the ground crew and pilots that would be helpful as I would like to repaint them ...

Next I'll glue the fuselage halves together and then add the wings , everything seems to be going nicely .

Happy 4th of July everyone .

                                       John .

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, July 3, 2010 1:29 PM

7th Infantry division fought alongside the 1st Marine division at Chosin. They were located to the northeast during the opening stages of the Chinese offensive. Much of it was destroyed. But like the Torpedo Squadrons at Midway their sacrifice blunted some of the Chinese force during that fight. A great read on that battle is Chosin, Frozen Ordeal of the Korean War. As well as the UK forces that participated in that epic fight. And had it not been for some USAF C-119s parachuting in some bridging equipment to replace some blown span during the fight out, it is quite likely the entire Allied force at Chosin would have been bottled up and destroyed before reaching the sea and salvation.

I have made more progress today on my Centurion. I finished all the suspension on the lower hull and am nearly completed with the upper rear hull now. I should have some pics to post later today or tomorrow.

Have a great 4th of July weekend to all Americans here! BeerToastSmile BurgerCool

 

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Posted by tonka on Saturday, July 3, 2010 1:44 AM

The British 41 Independent Commando fought very bravely with the Marine 1st Division at the Chosin Res breakout.

I had the pleasure of meeting several of the Royal Marine Veterans as well as USMC at the 30 year anniversary of the breakout during a 1st Marine Division reunion at Camp Pendleton. As a young infantry officer at the time, their modesty and stories were inspiring.

That would be a great dio idea,,Royal Marines at Chosin...no wait!!  I have a figure and a dio started already for the GB...

Pics soon as I get back from vacation,,,

By the way I will be visiting the USMC museum at Quantico on vacation and if you have never been there,,the Korea section is amazing.

You feel the cold, see and hear the gunfire,,and it is set at night..very well done...Hope to pick up some research for my dio..

Happy Modeling everyone!

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, July 2, 2010 10:35 PM

The Korean conflict was indeed an international affair. As said at the Frozen Chosin all I have heard was about the USMC, never knew there were other allied troops there as well. As I have said to myself many times, It PAYS to do thourough research on the subject matter, it's also quite fun and frustrating at times lol. Looking forward to seeing some choppers added to the build.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Gregbbear on Friday, July 2, 2010 8:41 PM

Very interesting John.  Every time I read anything about the Korean War, I learn something new.  If I am not mistaken, Australia was the first to commit to the defense of Korea with a squadron of F-51's.  I hope I am remembering it right, because I hate to inadvertantly misinform anybody.  Although the U.S. had a big role in Korea, it was truly an allied effort.  Sometimes I think we here in the U.S. forget that too.  As a former Marine, we were always told of the heroism of the Chosin Reservoir, but further reading showed that the Marines were not alone!  Commonwealth troops were there at the "Frozen Chosin" with the Marines.  Well, and some Army doggies too.

I really like your choice of builds.  Very interesting and good looking aircraft too!  I am itching to start building my Corsair, but I am trying to get my phantom off my desk first.  If I get through that, then I will probably build a Sea Fury or a Firefly.  Those are two of the most attractive post war prop planes built.  Who knows?  Maybe I can find some decals of the squadrons embarked on HMAS Sydney....

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, July 2, 2010 7:05 PM

Thank's Greg , I gratefully appreciate you taking the time to look up the info for me . I also had a search around google for some images and facts and found out that the U.S.Navy loaned HMAS Sydney a single H03S-1 [S-51] helicopter during her first cruise in Korean waters , the navy were really impressed with the helicopter that they ordered three British built Bristol Sycamores . The decal markings for the Glencoe kit I have show three british versions and four Aussie options . There is a camouflaged British Sycamore used in Cyprus , march 1953 , I'm wondering if the British Navy used them on their ships as well . So if I'm not able to locate a pic of an Aussie Sycamore in Korea , perhaps a British version might do ?

The small broucher I have mentions that the 'Sydney' used 24 Furies to provide fighter cover , flew ground attack missions against enemy troops , ammunition dumps and supply lines , providided air spotting for naval gunfire ; This was conducted during seven patrols between September 1951 and January 1952 , managing to tally up 2366 sorties in her 64 operational days , losing three pilots , nine Sea Furies and three Fireflies to enemy action . To be honest I had know idea we had that much involvement ...

                                  John .

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Posted by Gregbbear on Friday, July 2, 2010 4:35 PM

John, I have a couple of picture books on the air war over Korea.  In them, I remember some photos of HMAS Sydney.  I think it might of even shown a helicopter.  I don't remember what type.  When I get home from work tomorrow (I am a firefighter, so I stay overnight at work) I will look it up.  If it is indeed, I'll scan the picture, so you can see the markings.  If I also remember right, the Sydney's airwing dropped/fired an impressive amount of ordinance during their tour. G'day mate.  Sorry, I had to say that.

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, July 2, 2010 4:00 PM

macattack80

 

Helo, what kind of  "spares" box are you using?  My spares box only has extra tires and missles and fiddly bits.  I haven't found an entire kit in there yet.Wink

 

Hi mac ;

I have building kits for about 20 years now , when I got my first airbrush and compressor seven years ago I decided to strip the hand paint brushed finish on some earlier builds and give them a airbrush paint finish . So far I must of completed nearly twenty re-builds with another ten or so other aircraft and helicopters waiting to be put back together . I also bag all the unused parts from every kit and save them as well , I have built well over 150 model kits ; Lot's of spares I guess...

I was looking through my stash and came across a Glencoe 1/72 scale Bristol Sycamore helicopter kit . I don't have a lot of reference material about Australia's contribution to the Korean War other than finding a small broucher form the Naval Aviation Museum HMAS Albatross , it mentions that in september 1951 HMAS Sydney with Sea Furys and Firefly's aboard replaced the British Ship HMS Glory in the Korean theater . I been trying to find out wether any Sycamore's were on board as plane guards , I keep thinking that somewhere I have seen pic a silver finish Sycamore from around 51-53 patroling Korean waters ???

It would be nice to add a Australian bird to the Korean GB .

                                                       John .

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, July 2, 2010 3:15 AM

OK thanx for the reply

 

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Posted by macattack80 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:52 PM

Psycho, I hope things work out for you.  Family issued are never easy.  The bench is where most of us collect our thoughts.  I hope you are able to get building soon.

Helo, what kind of  "spares" box are you using?  My spares box only has extra tires and missles and fiddly bits.  I haven't found an entire kit in there yet.Wink

I will probably start the HRS-2 next week. 

Kevin

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:41 PM

jeaton01

I have a box full of Airfix F-80 gear parts somewhere, send me your address and I will send you what you need, so long as I can still find it.

Thank's John , I'll send you my details .

All my aircraft models are built with the wheels down , so I was hoping I could find some replacement gear .

Hannants in the UK had the Aires F-80 PE for the Airfix kit and I saw a Pavala resin seat so I ordered those along with Trumpeter's M4A3E8 Korea tank with T80 track , I haven't built armor before so this might be a good starting point , I also ordered some 1/72 scale F-86E USAF Korea decals for a Sabre thats also in the spares box and some A-1H Skyraider decals for the USMC in Korea and a T-6 Texan kit with USAF korea markings ...

                                           John .

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Posted by ww2psycho on Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:29 PM

Well I should be able to save my modeling desk. Might be able to start building next week. Unfortunatly my brother is moving back in with his family (for reasons we will not discuss). So a lot of things have to be rearranged in the house which is limiting my space in my room so the model table was on the chopping block but I think I've figured out a way to keep it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:37 PM

Theuns

Just a question from my side.

Is this GB of craft that actually served in Korea only or does it include the planes that was used for training the crew that went to Korea. ie.in 1950 the SAAF used Spitfire mk9 to train before flying the f-51's in Korea (in SA though)

 

Theuns

This GB is for subjects that were actually in theater either involved in or supporting combat operations during the war. The subject of the kit has to have been physically present in Korea, Japan, China, Manchuria, or surrounding waters and in some way be tied in.

 

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Posted by Gregbbear on Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:00 PM

Hey Scorpiomikey, I have a parts box F4U-4 by Revell.  If you want the stick from it, just let me know and I'll mail it to you. 

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:36 AM

I have a box full of Airfix F-80 gear parts somewhere, send me your address and I will send you what you need, so long as I can still find it.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:07 AM

Just a question from my side.

Is this GB of craft that actually served in Korea only or does it include the planes that was used for training the crew that went to Korea. ie.in 1950 the SAAF used Spitfire mk9 to train before flying the f-51's in korea (in SA though)

 

Theuns

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:42 PM

WW2 hope everything works out in the end!!!Toast

John, If you can't find AM legs, I would just build her with the legs up.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:08 PM

The Invader is coming along nicely Helo. 

Nice find in the spares box too. 

Looking forward to seeing all your progress pics.

Kevin

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:23 PM

nice work everyone, hey um i have a request. Does anyone have a spare 48 scale corsair control stick i can pinch? Carpet monster ate mine. I painted it, looked at the tv, turned back, gone, i cleaned my entire desk and surrounding area looking for it and its just...gone...poof...vanished into thin air.

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:59 PM

I have made a little more progress on the 1/72 scale Invader .

A bit of black paint to some of the interior pieces , some silver on the wheels and engines and I glued the wing halves together .

Last night I was digging around the spares box and found this old 1/72 Airfix Lockheed F-80C Shooting Star...

Part of the front gear strut is broken and I'm missing one of the main gear struts ; Does anyone know if there is aftermarket replacement landing gear struts available in 1/72 scale ?

I also found the decal sheet for the 'Saggin Dragon' 16th FIS , 51st FIW USAF Suwon Air base , Korea 1951.

 

It would be great if I could get this bird back together , I really like the decal markings ...

                                       John .

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Posted by macattack80 on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:22 PM

Nice job on the diorama Theuns.  I like the map for the backround. 

Yes....you should build a Sabre.  We didn't get see any WIP pics of the stang.  This would indeed redeem yourself Stick out tongue

Kevin

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:58 AM

Gamera, appropriately themed cheesecake is always welcome!Wink One must keep up morale after all...Geeked

Theuns, yes, an SAAF is definitely in order since the Mustang was done so quickly. After all, the rest of us have a long way to go and Next July is an even longer way off!Paradise

Psycho, we will be here, I do hope your problems pass quickly and properly for you and your family.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by ww2psycho on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:12 AM

Looks like family problems are going to interfere with my build for a bit, I have no idea when I'll be able to start on it. I will keep everyone posted if and when I start construction

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:24 AM

Thanx for the comments guys.

I guess I need to "redeem" for the Mustprang! The only way I see how is to stay in the rules and now do a SAAF F-86f Sabre Wink LOL

Theuns

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:23 PM

Thanks Gamera!!!! YES, VERY NICE........EVERYTHING!!!!Stick out tongueToast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:10 PM

Nice work there on the Centurion, can't wait to get my Pershing in the mail so I can get started.

Frank 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:17 PM

Wow love all these great looking choppers!

Simpilot and STFD637: The young lady's name (westernized) is Mina Shin if you want to google for more photos. I haven't seen any that aren't work safe- though they may not be wife safe! I have to admit the photo I posted doesn't do her justice as she has a pair of truly spectacular legs... Wow

Stikpusher: I promise not to post anymore cheesecake (for awhile...) Your Centurion is  coming along great!

Theuns: Fantastic F-51 sorry I looked at her in the aircraft forum the other day and meant to complement you and then forgot. Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:27 PM

Theuns

 stikpusher:

Looks great! did you just build this in the past 3 days?Surprise

 

No, just completed it last night.

I didn't read  the rules!No please remove my posting,Embarrassed it is the only Korea thing I did

Partial builds needing completion are allowed. You will just have to wait to collect your badge until we have a finalized one... I guess I should have started that sooner... no excuses on my part aside from laziness...Black Eye

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by tonka on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:15 AM

Theuns- Nice looking Mustang with SA markings! Nice presentation also!

Stik-centurion looking good,,,nice to see unusual markings and vehicles...

 

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