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60th Anniversary Korean War Group Build- extended for the duration

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Posted by macattack80 on Sunday, November 21, 2010 7:16 AM

Great job on your tank Stikpusher!!!  Bow Down  I have yet to try indy link tracks.  They seem tedious but definetly look better.  Nice job sir.  The tracks look kinda menacing themselves with those big cleats.

I agree that the F-86 has a beautiful look to it. 

Kevin

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:38 PM

Excellent work on the Centurion Stik ,Yes

Great pic's of the F9F Panther Gamera , You guy's in the States have some awesome Aviation Museum's .

The one closest to me is only a two hour drive away , HMAS Albatross Naval Air Station . The museum was originally run by the Australian Navy and I use to visit there quite often , however the Museum is now privately run and they wont turn on the overhead lights in the large hanger section . When I complained about how dark it was and how it was difficult it was to take a decent photo on any of the aircraft , I was curtly told this is how all modern museum's now operated !!!

After looking at the pic's you posted Gamera , there sure seems to be plenty of indoor lighting being used .

Anyway , there hasn't been any progress on my korean war builds of late , I've been trying to finish up some previous started projects to make room for my korean builds ; I'm going along okay untill yesterday when I accidently bumped the C-47 from the shelf under the bench and she hit the floor Crying

One of the pilots came loose and the side cockpit window fell inside the fuselage , so I had to carefully remove the wing section and cut open the fuselage halves from the front to pull out the cockpit and floor section . The C-47 was almost ready for masking too , but now I'll have to glue everything back together .

Oh well ;

                                           John .

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Posted by Gregbbear on Sunday, November 21, 2010 10:11 PM

Sorry about the mishap John.  I haven't made any progress of late either.  The waiting line for my paint booth is getting longer by the day.  I tried to paint some white on the nose of my Panther from a Tamiya spray can, and for whatever reason, it totally fish-eyed.  I just wiped it off, and threw the can of paint away.  It was an old can anyways....

Stik, the tank is cool!  I always thought the Centurions had a neat look about them.  I like the Israeli versions too.

Gamera, I'm glad you had a good vacation.  I hope sunny Florida was, well, um, sunny.  It has been a long time since I've been to the Naval Air museum.  It looks like it got even better.

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, November 22, 2010 8:00 AM

Stikpusher: looks like she's almost ready for paint. The link tracks look great, thankfully my K1A1 the mud guards cover the entire upper run and I decided it wasn't worth the hassle of bothering with the aftermarket link tracks.

John: sorry about your accident, as I said when I dropped my tank I had to put the thing back in the box and walk away from it a few days. Glad to see you're still making progress though.

Only bad thing about my vacation was it ended way too soon. Great weather (sunny and clear 75F/20C), friendly people, cute gals, and great food- I wish I'd visited the panhandle before now. I drove back in rain from Atlanta almost all the way home but other than that great weather.

The museum was fantastic, in fact most of the lighting was from natural sunlight from the ample skylights in the building. They were just finishing up a new hanger, and moving some of the modern aircraft to it so I didn't get to see any Tomcats or Hornets. It should be open by the end of the week, so I just missed it, still had I went later I'd have missed the awesome Veteran's Day airshow I saw (9:00 am to 7:00 pm).

I haven't pulled the K1A1 out of the box yet, she's to the point I'd normally drybrush but it seems no one does that anymore so I'm looking around at different articles on how to proceed from this point. The Panther's leading edges have been painted with the NM and I'm going to try to get them masked and the dark blue laid down this week. Barring paint mishaps hopefully I can start decaling her this coming weekend.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Monday, November 22, 2010 11:41 AM

Gregbbear

  I tried to paint some white on the nose of my Panther from a Tamiya spray can, and for whatever reason, it totally fish-eyed.  I just wiped it off, and threw the can of paint away.  It was an old can anyways....

Hi All:

I had the same problem with the Tamiya 'white' in the spray can as did Greg ... I wonder if all the Tamiya 'white' is a bad batch ... my can was brand new ...

I'd like to show some photos but I'm having trouble with Photobucket again ...

When I go to either of my albums to upload, I get a box that says 'Global Settings' when I move the cursor over the photo I want to use ... whether I roll over, left or right click, I do not get the Img code to click on to add to this posting ... I'll try again later today ...

Have a great day and upcoming week everyone ..

Pepper.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Monday, November 22, 2010 2:02 PM

OK Guys:

Gonna try again ...

No luck ... when I roll over the picture, I get the box that has the four options in it ... when I go to IMG code, I see the code but can't retrieve it ... if I click on it, the code disappears and is replaced with the word 'CANCEL' ... if I click the picture itself, I just get an enlarged version of the picture ...

Anybody hav any ideas why I can't retrieve the IMG code  from Photobucket ? ...

Thanks,

pepper

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:10 PM

Pepper: Odd. I noticed that PhotoBucket had changed some stuff around on their website but it seemed to work ok for me. Weird that that IMG code won't come up, wish I knew enough about computers to help. Dunce

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:58 PM

Hi Everyone:

Got my Photobucket issues worked out ...

Here are two recent shots of my builds ...

The first is the Sea Fury, masked and ready for black paint ...

The second is the Thunderjet, partially decaled ... as you can see, I broke the nosewheel off and the left main gear dropped out as well :-) ... easy enough to fix ... the Thunderjet has about 115 decals to place, should I do so, but I'm not going to  ... way too many are of such a size that you'd need a telescope to see them ... nonetheless, all the important decals are going to be applied ...

I've now painted the Sea Fury with its' black top coat and will start decals after I send this missive on its way ...

I hope evryone has a great holiday, has enough to eat and stays warm ... BTW, I live near Dallas and our temp tomorrow (Weds) is to be 85 ... the temp on Thursday down to 40 and on Friday, 22 ... winter is here ...

RNAF Sea Fury - Korea 1952

F-84G Thunderjet - Korea 1952

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Posted by Gregbbear on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:39 PM

Pepper, your planes are looking good.  Those are really cool markings on the T-jet.  Gotta love Texas weather.  If you don't like it, wait 15 minutes and it will change!  At least this time of year anyways. 

Wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving!  But, don't you wish hobby shops had black friday sales????

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:05 PM

Gregbbear

Pepper, your planes are looking good.  Those are really cool markings on the T-jet.  Gotta love Texas weather.  If you don't like it, wait 15 minutes and it will change!  At least this time of year anyways. 

Wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving!  But, don't you wish hobby shops had black friday sales????

Cheers,

Greg

Hi Greg:

Man, those were the days when airplanes were really marked up colorfully ... I'm going to build an F-100 soon that is marked in what is called 'candy cane' markings ... red, white, blue, orange, yellow, black, olive drab and green !! ...

Black Friday at hobby shops ? ... I wish we HAD hobby shops ... we have 2 - 1 is 8 miles, the other about 13 miles away and they don't carry a lot of items ... no aftermarket stuff, though I prefer not to use any ... but ...  limited kit and supplies selections ...

So, you have to go online and pay premium prices for things ... I just bought 100 # 11 blades from MicroMark - cost was $12.99, which wasn't too bad but $8.50 shipping cost for an item that probably weighed less than 2 ounces ... Tower Hobbies had the same item, but for $29.95 ... go figger !! ...

TX weather is certainly strange ... I was born and raised in San Diego, the land of Two Seasons - 'Summer' and 'Not Summer' ... I sorely miss the beach and the mountains ... where I live now, you gotta go almost 500 miles to the west  to see an increase in elevation of as much as 100 feet ...

But i digress ... ain't pushing up daisies yet, so life is good ...

pepper

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:26 AM

Pepper: Glad to see you got your linking problem solved. The Sea Fury seems to be really coming together and the F-84 looks great! US planes were much cooler back then before the days of grey and more grey.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:15 PM

Pepper, your two builds are coming along very nicely!

Has anybody else been keeping tabs on the latest happenings between North and South Korea? Here is a link to a slideshow on Yahoo news of the incident.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/North-Korea-fires-South-Korean-island/ss/events/wl/112310yeonpyeong#photoViewer=/101124/photos_wl_pc_afp/c13d760cb34e58261ac795b08d940bcc

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Gregbbear on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:06 PM

The NK's have been allowed to act without consequences since the armistice, so it really is no surprise that they continue to do provactive acts.  We are too afraid of China anyways.....

Happy Thanksgiving all.

Cheers,

Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 25, 2010 9:07 AM

Well despite neither of my two airbrushes wanting to work the Panther is painted, hopefully I'll get the gloss coat down and start decaling soon. Photos sometime this weekend.

Grabbed this off another website that got it from Wikipedia. Personally I find Wikipedia at times to be about as accurate as reading tea leaves but still it's interesting:

1980s

March 1980: Three North Koreans are killed while trying to cross the Han River estuary.

March 1981: Three North Koreans try to enter the South in Geumhwa-eup, Cheorwon, Gangwon-do; one is killed.

July 1981: Three North Koreans are killed trying to cross the Imjin River to the South.

November 1984: Three North Korean soldiers and one South Korean soldier die, and one American soldier is wounded during the firefight that erupted when a North Korean security detail chased a defecting Soviet citizen (Vasily Matusak) across the MDL into the southern-controlled sector of the Joint Security Area.

1990s

May 1992: Three Northern soldiers in South Korean uniforms are killed in Cheolwon, Gangwon-do; three South Korean soldiers are wounded.

May 1995: North Korean forces fire on a South Korean fishing boat, killing three.

October 1995: Two armed North Koreans are discovered at the Imjin River; one is killed.

April 1996: Several hundred armed North Korean troops cross repeatedly into the Demilitarized Zone.

May 1996: Seven Northern soldiers cross south of the Demilitarized Zone, but retreat after warning shots are fired.
May & June 1996: North Korean vessels twice cross the Northern Limit Line and have a several-hour standoff with the South Korean navy.

April 1997: Five North Korean soldiers cross the Demilitarized Zone in Cheolwon, Gangwon-do, and fire on South Korean positions.

June 1997: Three North Korean vessels cross the Northern Limit Line and attack South Korean vessels two miles (3 km) south of the line. On land, fourteen North Korean soldiers cross 70 m south of the center of the DMZ, leading to a 23-minute exchange of fire.

June 1999: A series of clashes between North and South Korean vessels take place in the Yellow Sea near the Northern Limit Line.

2000s

2001: On twelve separate occasions, North Korean vessels cross the Northern Limit Line and then retreat.

November 27, 2001: North and South Korean forces exchange fire without injuries.

June 29, 2002: Renewed naval clashes near the Northern Limit Line lead to the deaths of four South Korean sailors and the sinking of a North Korean vessel. The number of North Koreans killed is unknown.

November 16, 2002: South Korean forces fire warning shots on a Northern boat crossing the Northern Limit Line. The boat retreats. The incident is repeated on November 20.

February 19, 2003: A North Korean fighter plane crosses seven miles (11 km) south of the Northern Limit Line, and returns north after being intercepted by six South Korean planes.

March 2, 2003: Four North Korean fighter jets intercept a US reconnaissance plane over the Sea of Japan.

July 17, 2003: North and South Korean forces exchange fire at the DMZ around 6 AM. The South Korean army reports four rounds fired from the North and seventeen from the South. No injuries are reported. Music

November 1, 2004: North Korean vessels, claiming to be in pursuit of illegal fishing craft, cross the Northern Limit Line and are fired upon by the South. The vessels retreat 3 hours later.

July 30, 2006: Several rounds are exchanged near a South Korean post in Yanggu, Gangwon.
Wikinews has related news: Korean navies exchange fire

November 10, 2009: Naval vessels from the two Koreas exchanged fire in the area of the NLL, reportedly causing serious damage to a North Korean patrol ship.[9] For more details of this incident, see Battle of Daecheong.

2010s

March 26, 2010: A South Korean naval vessel, the ROKS Cheonan, was sunk by an explosion near Baengnyeong Island in the Yellow Sea. A rescue operation recovered 58 survivors but 46 sailors were lost. On May 20, 2010, a South Korean led international investigation group concluded that the sinking of the warship was in fact the result of a North Korean torpedo attack.[10][11] North Korea denied involvement.[12] The United Nations Security Council made a Presidential Statement condemning the attack but without identifying the attacker.

 

On the brighter side happy Thanksgiving one and all.

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, November 25, 2010 4:26 PM

Great info Gamera ,

Got me thinking about some type of 1/72 scale water craft to add to the Korean War GB .

I found this pic in one of my reference books...

I had a bit of a search on-line for 1/72 torpedo boats but all I have seen so far are the Revell PT-109 boats ;

They don't look quite the same as the pic above !

I do like the USAF on the side of the hull though !!!!

                                            John

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Posted by pepper kay on Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:53 PM

That looks sorta kinda the Brits search and rescure boats from WW II ...

Doesn't Airfix have a model of same ?? ...

pepper

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, November 26, 2010 9:48 AM

Hi All:

An update on the Sea Fury ... most decals are now on ... all the little fidly parts are now painted and ready to install ...

Thought everyone might want a look-see ...

Pepper

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 26, 2010 11:13 AM

Yes Coming along nicely Pepper! What carrier air group markings are those?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by pepper kay on Friday, November 26, 2010 11:23 AM

stikpusher

Yes Coming along nicely Pepper! What carrier air group markings are those?

Stikpusher, i don't have a clue but later this day, will begin the Internet search to find out ... have a good friend who was in the RN and am going to ask a favor of him to see what he can find ... if successful, I'll post here ...

There's nothing on either the instruction sheet, boxtop or decal sheet  ...

I've groused before about the poor quality of this Trumpeter kit, but will have to give props for the decals ... they went on without a hassle and I used Solvaset (the strongest decal solution) to get the black and white stripes snuggled down over the cannon blisters ... they look good, even upon a close eyeball inspection ...

Hope to have this little fighter finished yet today ...

pepper

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:47 AM

Pepper, the Sea Fury is one of my favorite piston engined birds. I fell in love with them when I saw one up close and personal at a local air show. The roar of that engine is just incredible to hear. A beautiful brute of a fighter bomber.

OK everybody, I just went thru all 60 pages of this GB so far and posted the completed builds with the roster. If I missed any, please let me know!Geeked

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:07 AM

Would a captured aircraft fit into this GB?  I found some for a MiG-15 in US markings after the North Korean pilot defected to the South.

Frank 

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:37 AM

Sure, why not ?? ...

THis particular Mig (shown above) was test flown by none other than Chuck Yeager ... I believe the airplane was taken to Okinawa to do so ... he and another test pilot 'wrung it out' in a series of test flights that were kept very Top Secret at the time ...

They found that in many ways, the Mig was superior to the F-86, then being used in korea ... in other ways though, the SabreJet was superior ...

Pepper

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Posted by pepper kay on Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:58 AM

stikpusher

Yes Coming along nicely Pepper! What carrier air group markings are those?

THe markings are for 1831 Sqn of the RNVR (Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve) ...

Sea Furies flew from the carriers HMS Glory, Ocean and Theseus ... I'm not sure which carrier this bird flew from ... Sea Furies also flew from an Australian carrier as well ...

Pepper

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Posted by Gregbbear on Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:41 PM

Pepper, the Sea Fury looks great.  That is an impressive looking bird.  Stik, I'm jealous, I'll bet that huge radial sounds incredible!

The captured MIG would make a neat build.  I don't think I've ever seen anybody make one in those markings.  You just need a figure holding a grease gun to put in front of it.  Almost every picture I've seen of it, had an air policeman clutching an M-3 in front of it.

Cheers,

Greg 

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Posted by macattack80 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:11 PM

Thanks for posting the completed builds on the front page.  I have yet to complete my build but its nice to look at all the great work  that has been done thus far without going through all 60 pages.  Yes

Kevin

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:07 PM

Daywalker, yes, bring on the MiG. That one is certainly associated with the war even if the defection occurred shortly after the cease fire. The other test pilot who flew the Mig was Tom Collins, and he had the buzz numbers beginning with "TC" added. He flew it before Yeager, and both of those points miffed Yeager. At least according to an episode of "Wings" I saw about that Mig.

Pepper, thanks for the info on the Sea Fury. The one most commonly seen is "Hoagy" Carmichael's MiG killing Sea Fury (off HMS Ocean I believe). Nice to see some variety here.

Mac, you're very welcome about the completed pics on page one. I am afraid Helo 34/John is putting the rest of us to shame with his one man efforts.Bow Down I can only imagine how many will be done by him when the July end date arrives.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:29 PM

Funny aside to the captured MiG...

Just realized it was "2057" in North Korean service, which is a jet I photographed at the USAF Museum a couple of years back. 

What are the odds?

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:13 PM

Well if you ever built the old Monogram Mig15 it had the stroy of that Mig in the instrction sheet along with the thanks from them to the USAF Museum in developing their kit.

I found this shot of that bird shortly after it arrived at Kimpo

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:09 PM

Thanks for the photo!

I just took a look at the two MiG-15 decal sheets I have, and all of them are post-Korean War.  I found a set on Ebay I am watching with "2057" on it, hopefully I win!  Doesn't end for a few days though.

On a side note, I just won a Tamiya 1/48 F-51D "Korean War" and am looking to pick up one of their F-84G's as well.  Should have plenty of subjects to build now!

Frank 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:13 PM

Take a look at Revell's F-84E/G if you cant get a Tamiya one. They are every bit as good, and not quite as pricey. Wink

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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