If  you have Ospreys 'Korean War Aces', there is a good pic of the captured yak in USAF markings (which suit it rather well!) on page 22. Apparently it was displayed at the USAF museum until it was scrapped in the mid 50s'. Bet they were kicking themselves years after....

Yes I do have that book in my library. I will have to go take another look at it. I thought that it looked pretty atractive in US colors as well. I think it is a crying shame that they scrapped such a piecee of war booty. After all, we did not capture many Communist machines in flying condition. Such a waste of a piece of aviation history.

Great reference pic's again Stik , thank you kindly

I'll go with the overall gray finish on the Yak-9P to keep things simple as I was looking at a quick build along with the Airfix DUKW which fell together really well . I'll have to look through the spares box for a loop antenna for the inside of the rear fuselage ; I'm sure I have one , I use to see it all the time while looking for other bits and pieces for other builds , I hope I can find it now seeing that I actually need one .

Hopefully today I can get the interior of the Yak-9 sorted out and airbrush the interior with some medium gray .

                           John .

Sadly such Philistinism was all too common back then. I wonder what became of the three IL-10s captured at Kimpo in 1950..? 

On another note, how do you post pictures on here? I have some of completed models, some of progress on the Panther and some I found from my Korea days - mainly aircraft in the Korean war memorial museum in Seoul.

Dr Win

Sadly such Philistinism was all too common back then. I wonder what became of the three IL-10s captured at Kimpo in 1950..? 

On another note, how do you post pictures on here? I have some of completed models, some of progress on the Panther and some I found from my Korea days - mainly aircraft in the Korean war memorial museum in Seoul.

You post the web link to the picture as a media link.  I _REALLY_ wish that it was set up a bit differently.  I don't know HOW the other guys include their badges.  :)

Here's pictures of my latest offerings...

Build what you want, they'll flame you every time...

the_draken

Dr Win:

On another note, how do you post pictures on here? I have some of completed models, some of progress on the Panther and some I found from my Korea days - mainly aircraft in the Korean war memorial museum in Seoul.

 

Heya Dr. Win:

If you want to contact me via e-mail - pepperkay@aol.com - I'll be happy to walk you through the process of posting pictures to the forum ...

pepper

Hey John!

Miahahmneeda!  I'm sorry, but I told you wrong; the Yak should be overall light grey like everyone else is suggesting.  I had also looked at my Lavochkin 9/11 kit and misremembered which instructions I had been looking at.  The La-9/11 has the squigle green stripes, the Yak should be in overall light grey (ie, light ghost grey).  Sorry about the misdirection. 

No worries Andy , it's all good buddy .

I found a piece of floor to use in the cockpit and a control stick . I cut out the rear fuselage section for the loop antenna transparency , I also made a small box section for the antenna .

One issue I just discovered is that my High Planes Yak-9P kit is missing the main wheels , so I'll have to borrow some from an Airfix Yak-9D kit .

I've done a few test dry fits of the fuselage halves and wings and everything seems to line up okay , next I'll glue everything together .

                                            John .

Nice Yaks.

Nothing photoworth to report, everything on the Pershing except for the wheels and tracks, pre shading done (second try at this) waiting for a chance to give it the main coat so I can make some more headway.

Andrew

Well, the Mig15 is ready for the Natural Metal paint today. I will update with pics tomorrow hopefully. Only thing I'm really waiting on for it is the decals to be restored. Havent been getting a lot of sun light so Im guessing they'll stay in the window for another month or so.

Does anyone use a wash on NMFed planes to bring out the panel lines or no?

Psycho, I have only done a couple NMF aircraft and have not tried a wash on one yet. But I will be trying one on the Thunderjet I am building now.

This evening I finally completed the add ons I  was gonna do for my Centurion. I scratch built a couple lifting lugs out of thick sheet styrene by sanding to shape and then drilling them out. I had a spare obtained from an AFV Club Centurion that I used as a guide. Once they looked about right, I glued them on with some Plasruct liquid cement, a nice "hot" glue that left some stuff around the edges like a weld seam. Now I can finish getting the painting done and complete her fairly quickly.

Both lugs in place

close ups of the left lug

close ups of the right lug

more to follow when painting has made progress.

ww2psycho

Does anyone use a wash on NMFed planes to bring out the panel lines or no?

Personally, I don't ... I think the 'panel lines washes' are way overdone ...

I have tons of photos of aircraft and have yet to see a single one that has panel line definition like I see on some models ... the panel lines, if any on the real bird, are so thin as to be almost invisible on a model ...

That's my 2 cents worth and I'm sticking to it :-) ...

pepper

Daft as it sounds though, when is nicely done it seems to make a model seem more real. Never yet had the courage to try it on any of my aircraft yet. Still experimenting with weathering on AFVs' to varying degrees of success. Panther is now fully built and painted with the varnish just setting. Decaling tomorrow then final coat of varnish and shes' done. Then to decide what's next...may put it to a forum vote. :) 

Bought a Supermarine Sea Otter to add to the FAA aircraft. Just waiting for her to arrive. Even has Decal options for a Korean war HMS Triumph machine!

John and SP: Nice work guys.

Psycho: Looking forward to the photos. I've only done a wash on one NM plane so far. I used a dark grey. Generally I'll use a wash somewhat darker than the base but I don't use straight black like I've seen some people do. The black gives a more sharp look but I think it's too stark.

I have to agree that washes in the panel lines are unrealistic. So is pre-shading. Still I do both to add more 'visual interest' to the model. Realistic no, but I like the look of it and after all modeling (at least in my view) is more of an art than a science. Anyway it's a judgement call, as an art do it the way YOU think looks best.

Excellent work on the Centurion Stik

I emailed High Planes Models about the missing wheels from their Yak-9P kit , They replied very quickly and said they would send me some wheels straight away , so I'm very happy and grateful for the quick response.

I don't suppose the Yak-9D operated in Korea ?

I've decided I'm not going try and build a truck/crane , instead I picked up Revell's 1/76 Churchill A.V.R.E. 'mobile bridge' , there was small photo in one of my reference books of a Churchill bridge layer ,so I thought it would make an interesting addition . I still have the M26 Pershing and Dragon Wagon Transporter as well as the T-34/85 and T-34 Recovery tanks in the stash also , so there's plenty of armor work ahead for me .

                               John .

Hi John,

                Most North Korean Yaks were the Yak9-P models. There are some early pilot reports of 3s' & 7s' too, but these are open to doubt. I don't suppose you know if there is an after market conversion set for the Dragon wagon?  I have built the Academy kit with the Armoured cab, but have heard that most that were used in Korea had been rebuilt with a more conventional cab as the suspension didn't take to kindly to the armour!

Andy

Hi Andy ;

I was looking at Hannants web site last night and saw the Planet Models unarmoured Dragon Wagon , here's a link ; http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PLAMV039 .

The kit looks nice but a little expensive , about $60 Aus . mmmmm maybe ???????

I'll have a think about your 1/72 kit list and let you know my choice .

                                       John .

John, I think the Churchill Bridgelayer is an excellent choice.Engineers are way under represented in models, especially compared to their importance on the battlefield.

Andy thanks for posting that link. I vote that you add an La-11 to the build. As far as posting pics goes,I suggest you get a photobucket or snap-fish account set up. That is a basic requirement to post them here as far as I know. Both are free of charge.

John, if want it go far it. Never seen the kit. If I remember rightly some armoured dragon wagons were in Korea, at least I hope so, mines in appropriate markings. The Academy kit  builds into an amazing model, took me three weeks to build her. Beast of a vehicle!

Stik,  I'll look into the photobucket thing tomorow morning - its 11:30 at night here in the UK. I shudder at the thought of the LA-11, its a Voko-grad kit. I did their F-80 last year and nearly ended up attaching it to a large firework and launching into orbit! Rather like Trumpeters Sea Fury.  The LA-11 looks like being as much fun...The decal look like something the USSR could have made in the 60s'.

Andy

''when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro''

Dr Win

. So the candiates are - 

F-51D Mustang (In SAAF colours). 

Still need to know how to post pictures up on here.

Dr Win:

Thanks for the great link - my choice, of course, is the F-51 ...

Again, if you'll contact me via e-mail - pepperkay@aol.com - I'd be happy to walk you through the process of posting pictures ...

pepper

I must admit I like the look of the Churchill bridge layer ;

I'm really tempted to jump right in on this one as well , despite already having a ton of work on the bench .

I'll start cutting parts from the sprue this afternoon .

                                     John .

I airbrushed the DUKW and associated parts with some Gunze H-78 Olive Drab , I also gave most of the Churchill parts a few coats of Olive Drab as well...

The wings and tail planes are glued on the Yak-9P...

Next I'll start glueing the chuchill chassie and boggie pieces together .

                                 John .

Stik, the tank is looking good.  John, again, cool stuff.

My vote is for the F.47 Seafire Dr Win.

My stangs should be done soon. 

Cheers,

Greg

Hey Dr. Win;

What kit of the Seafire are you using?  I've got the very minimal CMR kit, paid a chunk of change for it, but happy with what I've got.

Also, why do you @#$%heads have to keep ADDING stuff to my deliriously huge list-o-kits!?!?  ARGH!  A Sea Otter is now needed, and a Churchill Bridge layer, AND a soft skin M-26A1... 

Seriously, I wish that I was able to find an absolutely comprehensive list of all equipment used.  There's just so much mentioned in books, and then not mentioned elsewhere that it becomes frustrating.  Just when I think that I've got everything available in 1/72-6 scale I see something else that I need.  I may need to be doing this beyond July...

Hi Draken,

                   I have the Jays models kit of the Seafire, the're a company based in New Zealand - webpage is http://www.jaysmodelkits.com they mostly do late mark spits. There is a review of the kit at http://www.scalemodelersworld.com/articles/full-build-reviews/jays-model-kits-1-72-supermarine-seafire-mk-47.html so you can see what you're in for. 

And you will now hate me even more - last year I built an Eastern Express Beriev MBR2 bis for a customer and when I was researching paint schmes apparently the North Koreans were using them as ASR birds during the war. Theres another one for your list. All I need now for the Commonwealth aircraft is a Short Sunderland and an Auster AOP6 and I have that set! I'll see if I can get time to transcribe my shopping list on here, lets see what people can add then maybe between us we can come up with a definative list. If you want a good but not exhaustive list try this site... http://www.korean-war.com/KWAircraft/index.html

Andy

the_draken

Seriously, I wish that I was able to find an absolutely comprehensive list of all equipment used.  There's just so much mentioned in books, and then not mentioned elsewhere that it becomes frustrating.  Just when I think that I've got everything available in 1/72-6 scale I see something else that I need.  I may need to be doing this beyond July...

You and Me both brother

My choice for Dr Win's next build would be either the PO-2 , LA-11 or TU-2

I dont suppose anyone has ever seen a 1/72 scale Ilyushin Il-10 , Hannants had some Ilyushin's in this scale but I didn't see any Il-10 versions ...

The caption next to the IL-10 pic say's this aircraft was a later variant of the famous IL-2 Stormovik of WWII

Should I be searching for a Stormovik aircraft instead ??????

                                 John .

Helo, you need Kopros' 1/72nd IL-10, I finished mine about two weeks ago. You def need the IL-10, not the IL-2. Look for Avia B-33 as well online as it is sometimes marketed as that. The Czechs licence built them after the war. I got my kit from an online store in Poland of all places.

Andy

Thank's Andy ;

I check Hannants again for the IL-10 and Avia B-33

I have partially put together Airfix's ancient Short Sunderland flying Boat . It's not too bad for a '60s vintage kit . The fuselage join on top of the aircraft was the most troublsome but other than that everything has gone okay so far ; I have the wings glued on but that's about it . If I add the tail fin and tail planes and the front canopy and glue the wing float halves together , she would be close to masking I guess . I also have AZ Models Auster AOP MK5 in the Israeli stash , I'm not sure what the difference is between the MK-5 and 6 versions  .

Thank's for the tip on the Avia B-33 [IL-10]

                           John .