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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:14 AM

Nomad68 Hey bud glad to see you back at the bench Beer Sometimes one has to walk away from a frustrating build, its  the best thing to do really. Then as you did you come back and make a fine repair Yeah. I can see nothing wrong with nor a lack of scratch building skills in the least. The Calypso is looking mighty fine, been missing seeing her here too.

 

Capser your build is on the front page, but I am beginning to worry about you my friend. Now you are scratch building ejection seats in 1/100 scale ? Did I get that right ? And doing a swell job of it to boot.  Ya have it bad man ya need help. You are addicted to that terrible scratch building bug and we are NOT here to help, We are here to promote that addiction to the fullest Stick out tongue

 

Casper the Chihuahua

Fiddly painitng that looked just passable. It wasn't until I'd given it a heavily thinned oil wash that the details popped!

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i438/smcintyre11/F-14%20Tomcat/88002a78.jpg

Cheers

Wait !!!! Thats a pin ??? Oh buddy you do need help Clown

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, January 14, 2011 11:00 PM

Ok, I think I've finished with the cockpit for now. I made covers for the instruments out of some masking tape painted Olive drab.

I've sewn the bird up but there are a lot of cracks. Lots of Miliput needed for this one.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, January 14, 2011 10:19 PM

CallSignOWL

that cockpit is looking very nice casper!

Thanks Owl! Big Smile

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Friday, January 14, 2011 10:13 PM

that cockpit is looking very nice casper!

 

OWL

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, January 14, 2011 8:48 PM

After a couple more hours of fiddly work;

Unfortunately the canopy doesn't open and I don't want to potentially wreck it by sawing it in half. A good coat of Future and the interior should be visible.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, January 14, 2011 6:00 PM

Fiddly painitng that looked just passable. It wasn't until I'd given it a heavily thinned oil wash that the details popped!

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, January 14, 2011 5:20 PM

Ok this stuff oughtta liven up the office a bit. Some discarded harnesses, a Verlinden foot pedal cut up for instrument panels. Some strips of metal for the side panels and 2 ejection seats.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, January 14, 2011 2:55 PM

Casper - now the seats do have detail! Way to go! Once I have scratchbuilt the cockpit for a A-1 Skyraider in 1:72 (Hasegawa - they usually only have an excuse for a cockpit), and that was fun. Smaller scales excuse a lot, it's easy to make complicated systems look busy and realistic while strictly technically one could have reservations (after you enlarge something 72 or in this case 100 times it might get ugly). So good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:51 PM

As you can see there is no detail on the seats.

Time to cut up small bits of leftover PE and fashion some cushions from Tamiya Epoxy.

I have some lead from a wine bottle left so I can have a decent go at some harnesses.

Gotta say, this scale sure is tricky!

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by nomad68 on Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:34 PM

Hey Everyone there is some amazing work going on here!  I have been away for a while, this darn Calypso burnt me out I kinda got overwhelmed but charged ahead today. The kit was missing half of the smokestack. I felt I didnt have the scratchbuilding skills to fix it. I used some sheet and worked it in the shape glued it on and sanded to shape. I used Milliput to make the vent on the side. I am happy with the result and have more confidence to finish. I have a few Pics.

Damon

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:00 PM

Hi Vetteman, golly these GBs are addictive, huh?! I grabbed an Academy F-14 Tomcat today thinking it was 1/72 got it home to find it 1/100!

There is NO detail at all on this thing. I'm going to try and up the stakes and take a crack at Owl in the scratch stakes. I have heaps of PE left over from the F-104 and going to try and make ejection seats out of the L shaped plastic they have supplied. If you notice on the box they feature "realistic cockpit" well that is a lie!

So if you can put me down on the roster I'll see what I can come up with. Maybe even fashion some seat cushions from putty Wink

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:16 PM

Many thanks Hans Toast I printed it and placed it in the model box. You are right where you said that sometimes the old fashion way is better, I have tried the salt trick and didn't like it very much. It works ok for small chips but I didnt think it worked well on a large area.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:10 PM

No sweat, sent ya a copy of the rubber cement masking synopsis via PM...  

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:15 PM

SuppressionFire

vetteman42 don't forget to add CallsignOwl!

I believe she stole the show with her progression, scratch building & brush painting! Withing her three builds in this GB I can see a lot of skills displayed but the amount she improved deserves credit. Bow Down

Supressionfire forget CallSignOwl  ???????? Never happen, I am a confirmed member of  "The CallSignOwl Fan Club" We are looking for a logo for T-shirts as we speak.

In all seriousness I have been following Owl's progression from her first build on the forum and I can whole heartedly  agree with you. The improvement in her skills has been no less than astonishing. Have you seen her foil P-51 builds in the NMF group build ?

Hans sorry I missed the rubber cement trick and thanks for writing it again, I will be trying it on a near future build. Cant wait to see how your Val comes along.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:45 PM

One inch on the model is 72 inches on the real thing, so yeah.. Tiny, tiny, tiny... Dunno how them guys do that "Jeweler stuff"...

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:42 PM

aww, thanks supressionfire!  but I must say, in the level of detail you have me beat. Just how big is a 1/72 tank anyway? Than thing must be tiny!!

 

OWL

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:34 PM

Ok, Vetteman, thanks for the ruling on the kit-bashing... Wasn't sure..

vetteman42

Hans I gotta ask you how you got that well worn paint effect on the Val, do you paint then sand it ?

Are you talking about the paint chipping?

I used the rubber cement masking method I described in the above post.. I applied rubber cement over the aluminum paint undercoat, then sprayed on the green.  After that dried , I rubbed off the rubber cement with my finger, and also used some masking tape to pull off more green paint here & there, exposing the aluminum paint underneath...

I haven't started to fade or streak the green paint yet, that'll be done with washes, drybrushing, and pastels...

Right now, I'm trying to get the exhaust stubs to fit that I cut from brass tube, but the bias isn't looking right (the stacks are round where they come out of the engine cowl, but then turn into an oval-shape at the end..)..  I may have to go with Plastruct tubing...

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:00 PM

vetteman42 don't forget to add CallsignOwl!

I believe she stole the show with her progression, scratch building & brush painting! Withing her three builds in this GB I can see a lot of skills displayed but the amount she improved deserves credit. Bow Down

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:27 AM

Supressionfire thanks for the picture, its much better for the front page.

Guys the front page has been updated with the new completed builds. If I made any mistakes let me know and I will correct them. Casper, Pawel, and Suppressionfire thank you for sharing your fine builds with us.

Hans I gotta ask you how you got that well worn paint effect on the Val, do you paint then sand it ?

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:50 AM

Here is the picture that does not cut off parts!

I will keep posting here when progress is mode on the vignette, I stay away from the diorama title as this will be more of a monument or tribute than a story.

I would prefer to get a outdoor picture yet this one will suffice.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:50 PM

Pawel I will have your build posted on the front page in the morning, and will do what I can with the picture. I really like the way you did the props on it.

Casper I said it before and will say it again, you are a building machine buddy. I really like the way your Meteor turned out. The winter camo is very different and looks great to my eye. Especially being able to see a hint of the camo underneath the whitewash and the worn look it gives the plane YesYes

Hans von Hammer wont be any bouncing going on with your build. Kit bashing is allowed and that could be called kit bashing on a very small scale Stick out tongue so no problem. Heck I am doing it on my F-16 build, I needed a seated 1/32 pilot and got some from Academy's F-16 kit.

Your Val is looking fantastic so far, I really like the way you are able to beat them up and make em look so old and used up.

Supressionfire man I gotta tell ya, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this fine build. I still cant believe all the detail you were able to get into and on such a small scale build. It was kind of a whats he gonna do next type of thing, that you don't want to see end, but at the same time are very happy to see the finished product. I do hope you will keep us up on the dio here too. The Chwat rocks !! Very very well done indeed sir Bow Down

Guys I will get the front page updated in the morning sometime. It takes a bit of time after losing my data sheet on the group to find start page numbers and a few details about the builds that I like to include with finished pictures.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, January 10, 2011 9:08 PM

Yeah Suppression, I am not sure if 'whitewash' was the right word to use. Anything I have found online bout this plane or model people have gone for the whiter finish. I also haven't really exposed the photo correctly, in real life there is more darker variations running through the white and more of a sense of something underneath. But thanks for the feedback.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, January 10, 2011 4:32 PM

I dunno if the Hinomaru were actually maintained better or if they were simply in better shape  because the green paint acted as a primer and was also protected from the elements by the red paint of the insignia, which also could have been of a higher quality as well...

Also, I don't know if the Hinomaru were painted directly onto the green paint or the green paint was applied after the Meatballs were applied and then masked...

Judging from other Japanese aircraft that were either painted in aluminum or simply left unpainted,  it would seem that the Meatballs were applied directly over the aircaft skin and other colors later applied in the field to tone them down, same way we did it with ETO fighters that were moved forward and based in France after D-Day...

I'm probably over-thinking it...Stick out tongue

A word or five about the weathering..

I used the old school "Rubber Cement Masking Method" to achieve the chipping results.  After spraying the model with Wal-Mart's  "Color-Place" Aluminum, and letting it cure, I applied some rubber cement in "random but logical" areas of the model, using the cap-brush to put it on in a stipling/stabbing motion... I also used a smaller, 1/4-inch brush to do it in the tighter ares...

Once it was dry, I appled the grey on the undersides, let it cure, then rubbed off the rubber with my finger, exposing the aluminum underneath.  I then masked the underside, and commenced to appying the rubber to the top-side...

Once the top was dry, I shot it with Model Master Dark Green, FS 34079... This's a bit lighter, about a shade,  than the Tamiya JA Green, XF-13. I went with the MM color as I plan to "sun-fade" the upper surfaces as well as do the usual washes and drybrushing, since this model is a land-based IJN aircraft.   So it was exposed to not only salt air and high humdity, but constant sun and sand-blasting from coral runways and the resultant dust... (The Japanese Navy didn't have much in the way of hangaring their land-based aircraft.)

I then did the same thing again, stippling/stabbing the upper surfaces with the cap and the 1/4-inch brushes.. However, I wrapped a finger in masking tape and pulled up some green paint with that, too.. I was able to control the amount of paint that "chipped" with that method too..  The real trick is knowing when to say "STOP!", lol... I kept getting to "just ONE more spot and I'll quit"... Fianly had to just  walk away from the bench, lol..

It's just a different way of doing the "Salt-Masking" type of chipping paint, but I've been using rubber cement to mask since Christ was a Corporal, and I think the salt-masking method was basically just re-inventing the wheel... Having done it both ways, I saw no advantage to the salt and even had problems with it's removal in some places, so I keep it "Old School"...  Dunno how old, but Shep Paine mentioned it (the Rbber Cement Method) in his book, How to Build Dioramas in 1980-something, and he referred to it back then as "The old rubber cement masking trick"...  So I fugre it's another "oldie but goodie" from the model railroad community, probably from around the '60s

 

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:46 PM

Hans von Hammer

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Aircraft%20Profiles/Ki-44-25.jpg?t=1294695705

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Aircraft%20Profiles/Ki-44-20.jpg?t=1294695753

Love these photos Hans, I remember that thread, if its the same one we're talking about. This is pretty good evidence that the Japanese kept up their insignias even though the rest of the body paint went to hell...

Jon

My Blog: The Combat Workshop 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:39 PM

Thanks for the kudos..

Your Val is excellent! Heavily weathered Japanese aircraft have always been my favorite WWII aircraft to model. (only done 1) Looking forward to the finish on this one.

 What is your knowledge on their insignias remaining in near perfect condition while the rest of the paint weathers away? I got involved in a rather heated discussion a while back that did not confirm my theory or disprove it. 

I remember that one... I've got about a dozen photos that prove the Hinomaru remained intact in many cases... Here's one example:

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, January 10, 2011 7:03 AM

Casper the Chihuahua,

Looks good, the afterburners are done very well. When you said a white wash paint I was thinking weathered to show some of the standard camouflage underneath. Give the aircraft's late entry into WWII it wouldn't be field applied and done like on your Meteor.

Hans von Hammer,

Your Val is excellent! Heavily weathered Japanese aircraft have always been my favorite WWII aircraft to model. (only done 1) Looking forward to the finish on this one. What is your knowledge on their insignias remaining in near perfect condition while the rest of the paint weathers away? I got involved in a rather heated discussion a while back that did not confirm my theory or disprove it. 

vetteman42,

Tanks for your kind words. The skirts were a PITA done this way. My only explanation is I figured leave them off until the end to avoid marring the hangars while using the hull edges to handle the model. If done again like this I will make them out of tin, lead isn't strong enough and aluminum only has limited bending strength before it breaks as well. At 96% complete (round up to 100%) consider the tank finished. The jack will get installed at a later date, looking forward to building the street scene. Another first for this humble modeler.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, January 10, 2011 12:31 AM

I did some work in the morning and then decided to do some modeling in the afternoon. Time to finish the Meteor.

All done ad I think she looks nice in white.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, January 9, 2011 11:17 PM

Almost done with the Val..

Here's where it sits right now..

 

Interior:

One of the two scratch-built seats.

I may have violated the build-rules though, so I need a ruling... I robbed the ProModeler B24D of a wiring harness for the Val's engine... While technically NOT after-market, It didn't come frome the Fujimi kit, and I didn't scratch-build it...

If you need to bounce me from further participation, I'll understand... I simply forgot that I'd done started the engine already when I signed up for the build...

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, January 9, 2011 10:51 PM

Supressionfire all I can say is WOWZERS !!!! The track hangers and straps are spot on Yes But those armor skirts ?? They are done to perfection Bow Down I think this here Chwat is destined to be a show stopper for sure.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, January 9, 2011 1:26 PM

Casper the Chihuahua,

Your Meteor is looking great, good WIP's also.

Well Chwat is 95% complete. Just need to scratch build a jack and that is it. Will patiently wait for the Hetzer to be secured to a base before final weathering with gray powder. This should tone down the colors also.

First off is the spare track hangers. Decided to scratch build out of aluminum strips and a length of copper wire to simulate the crimp. Tried to copy with lead foil and was not satisfied with the results.

Metal straps are molded in paper with 'C' shaped fine nickle plated wire to simulate the buckles.

Without further waiting here is the almost completed Chwat:

Was happy with the project, tried new techniques and scratch built a tank interior in 1/72 scale for the first time. Looking forward to a quicker project without the amount of scratch built details.

Tanks for checking Chwat out!Toast

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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