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The Ostfront (eastern front) GB 2010/11

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:26 AM

This looks nice, now the scary part. By the way, whats that sticking out from the tail.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:12 AM

Hey guys,

Just a very tiny update on my part. Wanted to show you the plane as it is treated with factory applied decals and still looking half decent. She is all ready for my first foray into winter spraying camo. Terrified to death but gonna have fun anywaysSmile

Wish me luck....Zip it!

Ofcourse the underside is fully decalled since this will receive no white paint...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:35 PM

Richard the splinter came out great, looking forward to seeing you tackle the white wash! Still cleaning up the resin parts for the office and they are very brittle! Even with extreme care I've already had to fix some broken details. Hope to have some more pics to post up later this evening provided my fumble fingers do'nt break more parts!

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:35 AM

Well, main plan for now is to freehand it completely using my airbrush... The instructions indicate a pattern of bands in a random fashion. This seems to be doable with flat white, using my AB close in, finishing off misting the white inbetween; blending it all in...

Crossing fingers...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:30 AM

I was thinking of useing the same when i get to one of these schemes. Seems to work out nicely. Now looking forward to seeing how you tackle the white wash. Thats something else i have yet to try.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:27 AM

Bish,

With the jerry splinter being hard edged i used tamyia tape. Sprayed the undersides first, masked that off completely before spraying the bronze green all over the top. Left it to cure for 24 hours, then masked the lighter green area's and applied the black green.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:53 AM

Nice paint job, what did you use to maks between green's.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:36 AM

Guys,

Thank you each and evryone for your kind comments. By now i regret leaving this kit in my stash for this long as it really is a delightful and trouble free model to buildSmile

Trey,

Thank you! I will update the front page after i am done with this post. Have fun and very interesting to see some resin work as i have yet to tackle my first foray into this medium. Looking forward to any and all progress picsYes

As for me.....

The splinter pattern has been applied (RLM65/70/71) and this morning i applied a coat of future to aid in the decalling process. I expect the shinyness to be a lot less after the winter spraying but i can always add a little coat of flat after all the spraying is doneSmile. The little bits of tamyia tape are covering pieces of clearpart that had their masking torn off after i tried to remove the masking used for the splinter...Embarrassed. Should work out fine...

The future messes a bit with the camera but you can see on the undersides part that my preshading came out subtle but effective. Very happy about that myself.

So the general plan now is to leave all this to cure for a full 24 hours, apply some general markings and then some winter camo with flat white. Still trying to work up the courage as it will be my first winter spraying....Zip it!. Hope it turns out as i am hoping for...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:03 AM

Richard, nice job on masking that. I like those large clear bits, hasegawa now does those for its B-24 nose's and i found it alot easier to just mask the windows rather that fit all those little windows.

Trey, that looks a nice kit, be interesting to see how it comes together.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Friday, August 12, 2011 3:41 PM

Richard thanks! The kit is from Amtech and its 1/48 scale

its a remold of the old Esci kit and comes with a upgraded resin cockpit and unspatted landing gear

got the side panels fitted so far

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Posted by kermit on Friday, August 12, 2011 2:09 AM

TREYZX10R

Richard I bet you're glad the masking is done! Looking forward to seeing the paint go on,build is looking really clean! Would like to put a Hs123 in the g/b if its okay thanks in advance

Actually... unless it's a 72nd scale fighter plane i kinda enjoy masking canopies... Such a nice chore to have watching a dvd... Call me weirdSmile

Trey, if you give me the data like brand and scale i will be very happy to put you on the list right away. A Hs123 is such a rarely modeled yet interesting to look at subject.

I must say that the participants in this GB are not afraid of doing more uncommon models. Really like itYes

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:20 PM

Richard I bet you're glad the masking is done! Looking forward to seeing the paint go on,build is looking really clean! Would like to put a Hs123 in the g/b if its okay thanks in advance

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, August 9, 2011 1:33 PM

Kermit man that's a bunch of glass to mask, woulda taken me a week at least !! Bow Down Sure is gonna look good with colors added though, cant wait to see it.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, August 8, 2011 2:24 PM

Richard- Thanks... I am glad you liked it better.  I have to agree and I will have rest of the tank painted before I can do the filtering part.   Great work on your wingy thing... like Eric said... too many glass scares me!  I will be following with interest as usualll... this has been a great GB. 

Do you really need ask your wife for permission to buy something?  Only kidding... there's a thread going on about Jeff and his wife thing.  Trust me you will love it.  The only part I hates about my iPad is how awkward it is to type so I still prefer to use my laptop for forums if I want to make comments.  And what's worse you can't just type to make comments from iPad at this moment... little complicated but its great for surfing...

Eric- Thank you my buddy! Beer

Doogs- I am with you on this.  I remember your plane WIP.  I have done that on my past builds but this time I wasn't sure which paint I should use because this time I used dark green as base coat instead of usual Dunky.  I will do green filter at the top but use tan/gray for the lower part.

TB- Agreed.  Thanks for stopping by!  Happy to see you here.

Bish- For sure I have learned a lesson not to rely on color plates... still have so much to learn you can see.  Appreciate you taking your time to post comments. 

 

 

Andy

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 8, 2011 12:39 PM

That's a lot of glass Richard.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by kermit on Monday, August 8, 2011 10:55 AM

Bufflehead,

Everytime i see your T26 i love it a little bit more. It is such a rarely modeled subject on here and everybody knows i like the russian gearWink Great preshading job and the red star doesn't look out of place one bit to me. Great work sir!Yes

Guys,

I think i am just about ready for some spraying on my Heinkel... Need to mask the last windows, attach a fiddly bit here and there and off we goSmile Even managed to keep the underside knob bits intact while sanding and filling the area

The masking on this model was the hardest part i must say as everything else seemed to come together very easily and swiftly. The four clearpart nose section had a great fit as well:

I also decided to paint the area underneath and around the top turret window in it's designated black green color as some of it can be seen once the masks come off. Will tidy that up ofcourse before the preshadingWink

Hope you guys like her sofar.

Richard

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 7, 2011 3:44 AM

Very nice job on this. You first go was excellent when compareing it to the colour plate, but i have come not to trust those plates in that book, in fact colour plates in general are dubious.

I would give a light misting of thinnd DY.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:16 AM

Andy -- you definitely made the right call, the respray is 100% better and the dark green filter will draw it together and damp down the overspray effect.

Doogs -- great work on that T-bolt! The filter is subtle and excellent -- any chance you could walk us through your technique???

Cheers, Mike/TB379 (who will get back to his Bf 109 if real life -- read PhD thesis completion -- ever leaves him alone...)

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:01 AM

Diggin' it, Andy!

If I may, I'd suggest a filter of dark green, followed by an application of highly thinned dust/tan (NOT DUNKY). 

Completely different subject matter, but I applied a filter of dark green over the Ocean Gray/Dark Green camo of the P-47 I built at the beginning of the year, and it did a bang-up job tying the camo together.

Compare to the one preceding it (the decals botched it on this one and wrecked the whole build...), which I didn't filter.

I'm planning on doing the same with my Spitfire WIP, with a filter of Dark Earth over the combined Dark Earth/Middle Stone camo.

Also think doing a filter of overall dark green, the filtering the lower half-ish of the panels with dust (I'm a big fan of Tamiya Dust, but any similar shade) would lend more depth to the proceedings.

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 7, 2011 1:39 AM

That looks grrrrreeeeaaaattttt Andy. I love it. I might have to borrow that idea for my Ferdy since I've seen similar camo schemes.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:33 AM

Woops, forgot the filter comment...

Looking at the picture the underside of the schurzen look more like the dunky yellow, probably due to dust and dirt but a heavier coat on that place might do the trick...

Sorry bout the double post

Richard

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:30 AM

Andy,

That is just spot on my friend. I really think you nailed it right there!YesYes Also you gave me a good alternative reason to justify purchasing an ipad with my wife[;P]. "Yes it's expensive honey... but i simply need it for my airbrushing...."Whistling

Richard

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, August 7, 2011 12:20 AM

Thank you guys!  I learned that from one of magazines a while ago as it was used on an airplane.  But if I had to do it again, I would be more careful not to overdo with the over spray.  I would thin the paint more next time.   

BBBUUUTTTTT  please don't kill me... Embarrassed  I wasn't too happy with the result and somebody sent me the actual picture of the Panzer IV #505 in other forum.  Jeez, the artist's drawing wasn't even that close and I liked the real scheme.  Check it out...

http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/70745/ts.jpg

It showed how soft the camo edges were so I decided to follow this actual scheme.  Since the picture of #505 panzer showed that it has more dark green so I repainted the base coat using MM Dark Green after pre-shading job. 

With help of my new best friend... iPad sitting next to the airbrush booth I did my best to copy the scheme. 

Then I freehandedly airbrushed the Dunky spots...

 

This time I am pleased with the result...  but it is not over yet.  I plan to do an touch up on the dark green area.   Then I am thinking about doing an over spray of heavily thinned dark green to make the camo blend better.  Or should I use Dunky instead?  

What do you think?  Thanks again for the comments and looking... you guys rock! Beer

Andy

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:02 PM

Andy - Wow, you did a really good job of copying that pattern!  I think it looks great and I luv how you used the sticky tac and paper to get a softer edge to the camo!!  Great work, keep it up!

Ernest

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, August 6, 2011 9:10 PM

Wow !!!!!!!!! All this beautiful work goin on here, you guys are killin me man. I am gonna haffta pull out all the stops just to keep up Indifferent

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 6, 2011 2:32 AM

Buffel, ye nice to see that back, and its looking good.

deaf, great job on the camo, i think it has come out great. I can only spot a couple of areas that don't match the plate in the book.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:25 AM

Bufflehead-  It is great to see your T-26 back on the workbench.  Again, great work on the shades...

Guys- Earlier Pat (shoot&scoot) in Armor forum noticed that the muzzle brake was cocked.  I am so glad he did because the brake would have fell off by itself.  When I was about to have it fixed, it just fell off. 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG00894-20110805-2220.jpg

 

Now it has been fixed with CA... I have to spray Dunky over the muzzle brake again when I have the chance. 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG00895-20110805-2233.jpg

 

I have decided to give my second top choice of camo scheme a go.  The edge was not hard or too soft...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG00832-20110711-0158.jpg

 

Using this poster putty to hold the templates...it allows little space between the skirts and templates for softer edges.

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG00896-20110806-0021.jpg

 

It took a while to cut all templates... i used my boys index cards since they are much thicker and stronger.

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG00897-20110806-0021.jpg

 

Here's the result... you will notice the spots where putty were to hold the templates.

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG00899-20110806-0116.jpg

 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG00898-20110806-0115.jpg

 

Tomorrow I will touch up the Dunky to hide putty spots and see how it looks.  What do you think?  I only want honest answers... Big Smile  I am not too sure if I like this. 

Maybe I should re-do and cut templates using straighter lines instead of doing curvy templates? 

Andy

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:18 AM

Hey guys, here a quick update of the T-26T:

Before the move (late May):  Base color with some panel highlights applied

Now:  Post-shading with AB, blended back in with base color, Brown and Green filters applied (Sin Industries). Oh, and I sprayed on a little red star on both sides using a PE template!  Don't know if its accurate but I really wanted some sort of marking on it!

Ernest

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, August 4, 2011 5:13 PM

Manny should know a thing or two about camo jobs. Wink

I'm sure it will look good no matter what your choice is.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 4, 2011 2:23 PM

As you said on the other thread, can always use that scheme on another build. I know Manny pointed out the problem with that scheme for an eastern Front build, and i am sure he has good evidence for it. But if that book is the one i think it is, and i don't have mine with me right now, i would treat it with caution. I have noticed a few errors in that and the related books, especially in the colour plates. I think in one case they use the same plate of a 251 for 2 different units, and there do seem to be a few other errors from memory. But if that tank is 9th Pz Div, then yes, it was on the western front, at least in early 45.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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