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Macross Group Build 2010 - 2011

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:47 PM

Cabcar, looking good buddy, got to get to work on mine.  Look forward to your decaling her.  Good job.

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Posted by Cabecar on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:37 PM

Thanks

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:17 PM

Well worked for about 4 hours today on the VF-25, used well over 75 parts to get to this assembly.  Once I get a feel for the assembly, I will paint.

The complexity of this build says this is not a kit for a child.  Very, very complex to assemble and to articulate  the frame.

Still trying to work out how to install the head and raise to position from a closed/inside frame????? This is one of the most complex Mech models I have assembled ever!

the Gunp Cool

 

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Posted by Kugai on Friday, December 10, 2010 9:34 PM

Lookin' good, Gunp!

Yeah, the -25s and -27s seem more complex than even the MG Patlabor kits.  I started on the Luca variant ( pics coming soon ) but I think I'm wandering off the official order of the instructions more than you with the foot and arm subassemblies started and the head parts still on the sprue.

What's going to be interesting is whenever I get around to the Armored variants of the -25.  From looking at the instructions, they seem like pretty much the equal to a whole other kit with almost as much added complexity!

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Posted by Cabecar on Friday, December 10, 2010 10:41 PM

Hi.

 

Some update here, I started the decaling, these is big job, lots of stencils and little decals. Hope you like it, still lot of decals to put on :)

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Sunday, December 26, 2010 1:25 AM

Hey is it to late to get in on this ? Got a Tactical Pod Regult in 1/72 from my brother for XMass . Looks like it will be a fun kit . Let me know if it ok

 

                 

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, December 26, 2010 1:35 AM

Hi SLW 45,

No, not too late at all, join the party.  We're running through to October 2011, so there's plenty of time.

A 1/72 Regult huh? Talk about a classic kit - I haven't seen one of those in 25 years. Smile Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

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Posted by SLW 45 on Sunday, December 26, 2010 7:33 PM

Thanks so much

                 

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Posted by Harshman II on Saturday, January 1, 2011 10:03 PM

What happen to Macross GB? After 2010 , only one model finished???

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Posted by Funaka on Friday, January 21, 2011 9:06 PM

Well I hope I can get this group build moving again!

My name is Dan I go by Funaka online. I've been lurking on the FSM forums for years while being active on mecha-based forums but thought I should get more active on FSM so since I just happen to be building a Hasegawa Valkyrie right now, I'll throw my hat in the ring, if it's not too late.

Here's what I have so far, more or less:




Here's the page from my website with a lot more detail of the work I have done:

Super VF-1D Progress

Click the link above to see the progress so far.

Likes to build airplanes, but good at building robots!

Please visit my website, Funakatown

Also, see my report on the Bandai Gunpla World Cup 2010 in Hong Kong

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:22 AM

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the party, quiet though it is right now. I'll add you to the list. Smile

Nice bit of conversion work there. It's often said that the VF-1D is something of a neglected cousin. I do like the long nose.  The VT/VE-1 nose is shorter and deeper, with a distinct step between the front and rear seats.

Hasegawa's treatment of the VF-1D makes it something of a hybrid because the instrument panels and seats (and PE "D"-sidestick controller, when supplied) are more reminiscent of the "movie" version, but   the VF-1D only appeared in the TV series.

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Posted by Scott_A on Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:21 PM

It has been quite quiet, I have to admit i've been dragging my heals on both of my old kits and I haven't even started my VF-0.  I've gotten frustrated and dishartened trying to clean up my VF-1J as I go and the ancient decals on my 1/170 VF-1S seem to be prone to ripping. Funny enough the glue seems to go down smooth and stay down.

Edit: I have had some other Macross related goings on. I got my 1/3000 Macross from Yamato.

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Posted by Funaka on Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:19 PM

That Macross ship is very cool, but I prefer the older blue and white look with the aircraft-carriers for arms. Plus I remember the carriers being upright in ship mode. I know it doesn't matter in space, but it looks weird for the arms (ships) to sit sideways. Actually, it did operate in the atmosphere with gravity, so I guess it does matter. Imagine the chaos in the hangar decks when the ship enters Earth's gravity and everything slides down to the walls! Or imagine being on the catapult or elevator and your VF-1 just slides off the deck! lol

About how big is that thing (the figure, not the "real" thing)?

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Posted by Kugai on Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:05 PM

I'm also guilty of contributing to the lull here.  Between the holidays and losing patience with the putty/sanding issues with the Monster and the Glaug, I haven't made much progress.

A little late for New Year's resolutions, but I guess mine should be to get back to the plastic and keep the momentum going.

No time like the present, right?  Be back soon with some kind of progress report or, at the very least, grumbling as to what flaws in the kits are causing further delays.

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Posted by Funaka on Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:12 PM

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One of the last things I have to do before I start priming is to retract the rear wheels. To do this I had to modify the "legs" is to add a plastic shim inside the wheel well to support the rearmost gear door otherwise it just falls into the wheel well. Up front, I had to cut out the support from the landing light mount. The landing light is like a third landing gear door that opens forward so that the landing light can shine forward. Unlike the actual landing gear doors that fit pretty good in the well, the landing light "doors" were too long, too wide and too thick.

I had to file down the landing light door to the right dimensions and also file the edges so that it could sit flush on top of the "rails" that were left when I cut out the center of the door mount.

 

Now the doors fit pretty well. Like the nose gear door, I can't do the final fit until I glue the halves of the legs together.

Next was the foot exhausts. The way the kit is made the feet are sandwiched between the legs and have to be masked off. That also means you have to paint them and everything inside before you glue the legs together. I didn't want to do this so I shaved the circular shapes off the sides of the feet that hold them in place.

I thought I would have to make some kind of mounts for the feet but it turned out that when I test fit them they fit pretty snugly and touched the plate with the molded in exhaust detail inside the leg well enough that I decided I could just glue them in place after the model was done.

 

They sit slightly deeper than intended, but you can't really tell. Here's the comparison to the stock mounting:

I love it when mods just kind of work themselves out. That's why test-fitting is so important. It's amazing how many things fit  that aren't even necessarily meant to fit together.

 

The last thing was to glue the photoetched deteail inside the feet:

Now I'm ready to wash all the parts I've worked on for priming.

 

The next thing I did was to get back on the computer and work out my color scheme. I wanted to go with a stripes and sunburst pattern. It's a real classic with airplanes. But it's too classic. It looks right on a Super Cub, or Decathalon. These are fabric-covered airplanes from the middle of the 20th century so I wanted something to modernize the look of the color scheme. I first thought of fading them out with the airbrush but thought that would be kind of lame since the pattern would just kind of disappear.

 

But I liked the idea of the pattern starting strong towards the center of the plane and then breaking up as it got out towards the extremities. I don't know when I made the connection, but I decided to do it with little white strips like the pattern was being cut to ribbons. I think the idea comes from what Gamerabaenre did with the patterns of blue and pink in his Gouf Cstom and Zaku II (http://gamerabaenre.com/gouf_conv.htm) but the pattern is applied in a gradient from one end to another. Here's the mock-up:

The UN Spacy is upside down on the gunpod because it just bugs the heck out of me to see it upside down when carried in battroid mode, especially when that makes it rightside up in fighter mode WHEN IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE UN SPACY LOGO ON THE LEG!!! Why have it all rightside up in one mode and all upside down in the other??? It's like the Zaku shield, it should really be on the left shoulder for right-handed pilots since that way it would deploy forward in the typical two-handed firing stance.

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Please visit my website, Funakatown

Also, see my report on the Bandai Gunpla World Cup 2010 in Hong Kong

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Posted by Cabecar on Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:34 AM

really nice work, I saw the advances on your web page, really nice, you put a  lot of effort on details.

Nice work!!!

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Posted by Cabecar on Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:46 AM

I got one too!!! Its a good kit, but need a lot of  sanding lol,  I think is a little too big for 1/72 scale lol

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 5:25 AM

Just stopping by to say hello and to see everybodys progress.I wasn't happy with some of the work I did,so I put my build on the back-burner for a bit.

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Posted by Funaka on Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:46 AM

Well, I kind of disappeared with this project... A big part of that is just life getting in the way. In the last few weeks I've had to fight with my insurance company and the body shop that didn't fix my car right to get them to fix it right. I've also battled a colony ants that moved into my bedroom wall. I've had to study for a promotional job interview (I got the job!). I've had to do online traffic school. I took a test in the class I’m taking and I made an "Intro to Mecha Modeling" presentation to the local IPMS club. But also, I'm just to the point of fixing the 20-odd seam lines on this kit and it's not something I look forward to all day at work. I am almost ready to prime, however. 

 

Anyway... I thought I’d be painting the cockpit soon since it needs to be painted before I close up the fuselage, but I started assembling some sub-assemblies and as I began to test fit some parts, I found a lot of small issues that needed attention. Some of these fixes are still in-progress, and I bounced around quite a bit from one small task to another but I’ll try to present it in an orderly fashion.

 

I test-fit the VF-1D head that tucks into the bottom of the cockpit and found that the head sits too low so that rim of the gun turrets on the side of the head stick out above the actual head. A lot!

 

 

To fix this I added some plates on the bottom of the head to shim it upwards (technically downwards since it’s on the bottom of the plane, but...) and now the guns sit flush with the top of the head.

 

 

 

Next was the Super booster packs. The very first thing I did was cut the tabs off the main thrusters so that they could be painted separately and slid into place afterwards.

 

 

 

The booster packs had some fit issues as the main thrusters didn’t fit inside them well without splitting the packs apart at the seams. If you look in the picture above, you can see the bulges on the inside on the right side that house the small maneuvering thrusters on the sides of the packs. These interfere with the fit of the main thrusters so I sanded them upper bulge down a bit and the side of the booster as well.

 

 

Next I looked at the way the packs mount to the backpack. The mounts have a really small contact point that doesn’t allow much glue to hold these relatively large structures to the plane. Even worse, there isn’t a positive fit that keeps them aligned, so you could mount them really crooked. I’ve seen Valks with this problem, even some of Hasegawa’s own prototype models can be spotted with crooked booster packs.

 

 

To fit this I used a 1.5mm brass rod and CAREFULLY drilled matching holes into the mounts for the booster packs. This rod will go through a plastic rod, which will be securely glued inside the backpack, which should give a secure and straight fit. The downside is that this will all have to be glued in place and aligned after painting is done.

 

 

 

The next fix for the boosters was the gaping hollow spaces visible behind the main thrusters when viewed from behind:

 

 

To remedy this I added some small strips of plastic as brackets to mount some plastic plate:

 

 

Once these brackets were in place I used trial and error to make a set of upper and lower formers to block off the hollow space and glued them in. I’ll add some detailing greebles to them before painting. I’m also going to add some plaplate or strips around the inside backs of the booster pack because there’s a lot of blank space visible around the main thrusters.

 

 

I test-fit the arms and discovered a big hole in the hollow “elbows” that will be visible once the plane is all assembled. It’s not horrible since you would only see it from certain angles, but still, it’s an easy fix so I blocked it off with some thin plaplate.

 

 

With the legs glued together, I went ahead and installed the landing gear doors. They still required a bit of filing but I got a pretty good fit. I’ll probably still need some filler here and there but I’m pretty happy with the results so far. The question is how much putty I’ll have to use to smooth them out and how much I’ll have to rescribe the door outlines.

 

 

That’s it for now. I hope to post pictures of a primed model with a painted cockpit in the near future. I’ll probably have a decent bit of work to do rescribing the panel lines that were lost in the seam-fixing process, but after that I can get to painting and hopefully the work will go faster.

 

Likes to build airplanes, but good at building robots!

Please visit my website, Funakatown

Also, see my report on the Bandai Gunpla World Cup 2010 in Hong Kong

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Posted by Funaka on Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:49 PM

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Update 03/31/11

 

Okay, there's something wrong with me. I have 60 pictures of a kit that isn't even primed yet...

 

Anyway, I added some detail to the main thrusters as well as the reactor missile thrusters, which were just a flat plate:

 

 

 

Then I went to work painting the cockpit. It's like a kit in and of itself. You have to paint it, then clearcoat it. Then decal it. The clearcoat it. Then do a wash. Then clearcoat it. Then drybrush it. Did it all in a weekend of short spurts of work followed by waiting for clearcoats to dry. Those hasegawa decals are THICK it took a lot of MicroSol just to get them to stay in place, let alone conform  to the shapes in the cockpit. Here's a series of pics showing the progression:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Starting last weekend I decided this kit needs more decals so I started rendering this. It will go in the circles on the side of the Super Booster Packs. I'm going to make a few more things like numbers and stuff and also some decals for my VF-25 while I'm at it. In the meantime the kit is primed and I'm doing round two of fixing seam lines.

 

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Please visit my website, Funakatown

Also, see my report on the Bandai Gunpla World Cup 2010 in Hong Kong

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Posted by Kugai on Friday, April 1, 2011 1:00 AM

Looking good, Funaka!  What did you use for the added details in the thrusters?  I have several kits of the Super Valks and some ideas doe "bland spots" like that would come in handy not only to make at least some of them look better, but to also break up the potential monotony of otherwise building the exact same kit with different paint schemes.

Things have been kinda busy here, so I haven't gotten much done recently.  Good news is that I have some free time coming up in the next few weeks, so I not only willl be able to get something done here soon, but may even get one of these for the GB done.

Of course, I probably jinxed the whole thing just by saying that and will have some kind of major problem come up that delays everything...

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Posted by Cabecar on Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:50 PM

Some minor updates, the decaling is complete. Next step some washes and paneling and a  clear coat .

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, April 11, 2011 1:51 AM

I haven't abandoned this GB, just been on the slow burner...

I've been dressing up the "arms" just a little.

The Prometheus had a completely flat flight deck and I've added the basic shape of the bridge/island using a frame of styrene strip covered in putty...

The Daedalus was a bit basic too. The bridge is moulded as a solid block.

and has these funny stack-like structures behind, which shouldn't be there

when it should really be a "rollbar" type arrangement.

Pretty basic stuff, but I'm not going to go overboard with it. (sorry about the blurry pics)

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Posted by Kugai on Monday, April 11, 2011 10:37 PM

Good job on those corrections, Phil.  I'll have to remember those detailing issues whenever I get around to my Storm Attacker.  Either that or go a bit nuts and alter it into something more like the "DYRL" version.

Maybe both....thats what spares are for, right?.

Had several WIP pics ready to post, but my main computer has some issues and I have to use the backup that needs an adapter to get pics from the data card.  I've gotten most of the sanding done on the Glaug's arms and am building up a little plating detail before painting.  The legs are next, with the "feet ( sans toes at this point due to the added weight ) and "thighs" ( does that term even apply with a reverse-knee design? ) ready to have the lower leg sections joining them once I take care of a couple of fit issues.

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Posted by badlanguage on Wednesday, May 4, 2011 6:19 AM

I'm new to this site, I found the Macross group builb while fumbling around on the Internet. I wish I had time to contribute something, but the builds you all are doing will help me a lot when building my own Valkyries. Thanks, and great work by all!

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Posted by Cabecar on Sunday, May 8, 2011 11:33 AM

Its finish!!!

Hope you like it. I knwo the pics are not great  :rolleyes:



















Thanks to all who help.

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Posted by potchip on Sunday, May 8, 2011 4:55 PM

Looks great. I reckon instead of using camera flash, take pictures under strong light with flash off will do better.

Finally got around to resume work on this GB. Pics soon.

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