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Macross Group Build 2010 - 2011

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:05 AM

Phil_H

 Gunpla Master:
I am @ a cross roads about the Bug Eye, I am trying to figure out away to fix the really ugly seam down ea side of the body, have some ideas, but just do not seem to be able to get this up and going. 

The worst aspect about that seam is that it's sitting at the bottom of a narrow recess and that makes it difficult o sand. Back in the day I just left it, but if I were doing it today I would be layering on sometihng like Tamiya's Liquid Surface Primer and then smoothing it out with a tissue or paper towel moistened with denatured alcohol. The recess is painted black and will mask flaws to an extent if you're not looking at it too closely.

I was going to suggest something similar - fill the seam w/ Mr. Surfacer 500, then polish it smooth w/ a Q-tip dipped in Mr. Thinner or alchohol. That's what I do on hard to sand seams. With a little pre- or post-shading, it should be invisible when the kit is finished.

 

 

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Posted by Stamps on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:39 AM

That base looks awesome TD4438, I might need to scour my Macross DVD's and make a similar base for my Battroid. Imitation is the best form of flattery, right? :D

I've jumped the gun a little too, but only on the arm/leg movable assemblies though. I take forever to make models though, so think of it as a handicap start :D

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:53 AM

Wave wants to make me bankrupt, just placed an order for the upcoming 1/72 Defender(aka Rifleman) kit.

Now Tomahawk and Defender in 1/72 something screams Diorama here. Like adding the Fujimi 1/72 Ground Crew equipment sets, etc.

http://www.hlj.com/product/WAVMC-72

Granted anything below the waist is nearly identical.

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Posted by Harshman II on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:38 AM

Mad-Modeler

Wave wants to make me bankrupt, just placed an order for the upcoming 1/72 Defender(aka Rifleman) kit.

Now Tomahawk and Defender in 1/72 something screams Diorama here. Like adding the Fujimi 1/72 Ground Crew equipment sets, etc.

http://www.hlj.com/product/WAVMC-72

Granted anything below the waist is nearly identical.

WOW, the defender is very nice but too pricey for me. Sad

But I bet it will turn  into a great looking model.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:13 AM

Yeah, should turn out nicely looking at my Tomahawk.

Pricewise I don't find it all that harsh as many shops offer a 20% discount. And seeing what the old kits go for on Ebay.

 

Next kit should be the Phalanx as they all have similar legs, Spartan will be last I guess.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:46 PM

Howdy All, well I started work tonight on the Bandai VF-1D Valkyrie Variable.  Started w/step one, which happens to be the Afterburner/Foot.  Made up of 8 parts, 16 total for both Burners/Feet.  They have the ability to open and close, plus pivot for walking.  I first flat sanded the two groups of halves, clamped and liquid welded from the outside.  Once it had dried hard, I began to sand w/sanding sticks, med & fine.  Took a bit of work to square up and to get to set flat footed when standing erect.  I now remember such kits and must admit today's kits have us spoiled.  This one is going to take some work to get to look like a kit from today's standards.  But that is just fine, I like a challenge.Surprise

For some reason I pretty much have made up my mind to build in the Gerwalk Mode.  For some reason, this appeals to me, a walking fighter Aircraft, only in the World of Mech's.Huh?

 

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Posted by Harshman II on Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:26 AM

Looks great. I waiting for a big discount from ebay and build this bandai kit if I have the chance.

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:57 AM

Hey GM,

The seams on those feet/nozzles look worse than I remember. I will say though, that when I did mine it was nearly 25 years ago when the kit was still relatively new. Perhaps the moulds have not aged well.

 

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Posted by Cabecar on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:42 AM

Hi guys.

I just got an hasegawa 1/72 VF-1A super valkyrie, I want to buil a Max type J TV versión, but for that I need the J head tree. Did any of you an spare one that can sell me?

 

Thanks

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Posted by eptingmike on Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:19 AM

Hello all,

I thought I would just post a pick of the kits I have for this group build.  I am listed as doing a 1/72 Bandai Valkyrie but in the last week I acquired a bit more! 

I just could not believe my eBay luck!  I managed to pick up these three 1/100 kits for a grand total of $7.00!  Hot dog!  I think the auction went well for me as one of the VF-1S kit was listed as incomplete.  I figured I could just use the parts or some such thing.  However, all that was missing was some add on armor.  THe big issue was that the kit was started...and not started well.  I am 99% sure it was a younger modeler as the glue used was that weird orange smelling stuff that I assume is only used by kids as it is described as non-toxic.  I remember my mom trying to get me to use it in the late 70s early 80s...I thought it was terrible and didn't really work!  I pulled apart as many of the joins as I could and plan on cleaning it up and trying to make it nice. 

The other two kits were complete and pristine!  One even has a Roy Fokker vinyl figure in there.  I see on the box there were a number of the cast in these kits.  Any of you folks know if it was a random mix or are the characters associated with certain kits?

Take care

Mike

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:39 PM

Phil_H

Hey GM,

The seams on those feet/nozzles look worse than I remember. I will say though, that when I did mine it was nearly 25 years ago when the kit was still relatively new. Perhaps the moulds have not aged well.

 

BEFORE

AFTER

Seams welded w/liquid glue, "Tenax 7R", then allowed to dry well and afterwards, elbow grease w/sanding sticks to get the finial results.

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:05 PM

eptingmike
I just could not believe my eBay luck!  I managed to pick up these three 1/100 kits for a grand total of $7.00!  Hot dog! 

Nice score Mike. Big Smile They're not bad as far as the 1/100 kits go. The two battoids are later "DYRL" boxings, The same kits as the original releases with the movie tie-in. The Gerwalk is a DYRL "upgrade" with the Strike Cannon  option  (I've got an "original" TV version with the "Super" add-ons but not the cannon).  I'm not sure if the bonus figure was kit specific or randomly packed. There was a total of six figures which went with this range.

GM - I don't recall having to do that much work to get the seams down. Indifferent

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:14 PM

Still tempted on picking up the Wave 1/100 VF-1S Valkyrie and Battroid to build a Gerwalk.

Knowing me it will happen after the next paycheck.

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Posted by potchip on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:19 PM

I am in!

Hasegawa YF-19 1/72 it shall be. Partial start already completed cockpit though.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:32 PM

Welcome and join the crazy fun.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:50 PM

Hello Phil.  I was curious and went on line and researched this kit and also what it reps in the Macross Cannon.  I like what I read about this kit, the fact it transforms puts it ahead of the others.  But it is long in the tooth compared to today's standards.  This again is as I understood being made available, which means the molds as stated were cleaned up.  So one is to assume if you buy the re-pop of this kit, should be alot more cleaner than this one is.  I also discovered even though the decals are on register and too bright in color, one can correct this by buying the Hasegawa VF-1D TV version, which comes  w/Cartof decals and a PE set for this bird.  Ordered tonight,Eats who needs to eat!  I also ordered from StarshipModeler the VF-1 weapon set, that come with two well molded pilots, the two that come in this kit are just vague humanoid shapes.  Plus I can up-grade the ordinance under the wings. 

I also read the Story behind this color scheme and this Valkyrie which is the prototype that if I read it right is mortally wounded after fighting several battles to save a girl and the young pilot/girlfriend are carried off in the nose of the Valkyrie by Fokker with the nose of the Valkyrie attached to his arm while he dispatches a alien.  Or so the story goes.  So to put two pilots in @ same time is not true to the time line and upgrading the ordinance is not in keeping with this color scheme, but hey I bought it and can build whatever cannon/time line I wish too.

So as you can see, I am building as shown on the box, the Gerwalk w/2 pilots, up-graded ordianance, better and thinner decals and added PE.  Shold turn out  sick, is that the term the kids use now to say, cool.

I know, I am sickDunce

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Posted by Phil_H on Friday, September 17, 2010 12:28 AM

Hey GM, Your summarisation about the VF-1D is  pretty much spot-on and it did only appear in the first two or three episodes of the TV series.

It'll look great whatever you do with it. Strictly speaking, the pilot figs in the weapons set represent "Movie version" pilots, so they don't really fit the "TV" timeline anyway.

Note also that the PE set which comes with the Hasegawa version features the "D-handle" sidestick controller from the movie version which isn't correct for the TV version. The TV version had a centre joystick mounted on a pedestal projecting from the lower front of the main instrument panel.

Big Smile

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, September 17, 2010 4:36 PM

Thanks for the info and I will watch for all the points you brought out.  I am more interested in building a Gerwalk version loosely based as you can tell from what I want to do.  I would however like to also do the Fokker w/the VF-1D nose attached to his arm @ some point.  Would make for a interesting build for the display case of Macross models.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:16 PM

Thought I would post what I have done to the leg of the mecha.  I have opened up radom areas and the cooling vents on the outside bottom of the leg.  I will place PE wire mesh behind this area.

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:35 PM

Hey GM, it will be interesting to see how the mesh looks behind those vents.

If you are taking it this far, another area which will need attention is the intake on the "backpack". As it stands OOB, it's a flat, featureless blank. You may wish to open it out and put some sort of mesh/grille inside the opening. It's not so critical in fighter mode where the backpack is slung underneath and largely invisible but in Gewalk mode it's quite prominent.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:15 PM

Thanks Phil, great minds think alike, LOL.  I also agree, the backpack does need attention to fix and I plan to do just what you said.  As a matter of fact, I have several areas I intend to improve on.  I am really enjoying building this kit.  I had some time to work a little on the 1st leg and this is where I got too.  The next two components were added and the Vulcan was opened up and a barrel added.  This may not be proto-typical, but is in keeping w/the way it is done in many apps.  As the barrel rotates, only one barrel @ a time is firing.  The barrel rotates that is in firing position and lines up w/the barrel extension of the airframe to clear the muzzle of the weapon.  This happens @ lighting fast speed.  That is why the Vulcan often sound like, ZZZZZIIIIIIIPPPPPPP!  For anyone who has been present when fired, you know what I am talking about.  Anyhow, I thought it would add interest, functionability and dress up a area that Bandai left kind of blank.  The muzzle was a turned HQ Parts piece and I will use @ all Vulcan locations, 4 in total.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:38 PM

GM:

Looking Good.

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:22 AM

Hey GM, I believe the blisters you are working are actually meant to be sensors of some sort, though there is a precedent that in at least one episode of the series, the nose blisters are seen discharging some sort of weapons fire, Whether it be projecttile or beam I can't recall.

As far as I'm aware though, apart from the missiles, the only weapons are the head guns and the GU-11 gun pod.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:02 AM

Embarrassed Well, I guess I will continue down the path of making these what I took them to be, gun blisters.  Thats what happens when you are not versed in the cannon of the subject.  But considering I am already planing to be outside the box between TV/Movie, will this be OK Phil.  Maybe on the next one, I will build OOB w/no improvements!

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Posted by Cabecar on Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:31 AM

Really nice work. Those vents looks nice. The hard part will be place the U.N. Spacy decal Smile

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:44 AM

Gunpla Master

Embarrassed Well, I guess I will continue down the path of making these what I took them to be, gun blisters.  Thats what happens when you are not versed in the cannon of the subject.  But considering I am already planing to be outside the box between TV/Movie, will this be OK Phil.  Maybe on the next one, I will build OOB w/no improvements!

It's easy enough to make the connection because they do resemble the gun fairing on an F-14, which the VF-1 more than superficially resembles. Anyway, like I said, there's at least one scene where one of them is seen firing from the nose blisters, so it's all good. Besides,it's a sci-fi thing and you can make it whatever way you want.  Wink

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:45 AM

Micro Set/Sol will take care of that.  Good point though and I get what you are seeing, but just as in real AC, the markings have to cover many voids, curves and openings.  Thanks for the heads up.Cool

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:52 AM

Thanks, I am new @ the Macross cannon, and I guess I would benefit greatly by looking closer @ what I am building.  I just like Mechs and that is what I keyed on.  I never saw any of the episodes for Macross, all I remember seeing while stationed in FRG on AFN was Gamma Man!  That was in the 70's.  The next closest thing to a Mech movie I would see was the Transformer Movies.  We have here on cable TV Anime Monday, but comes on late and I am in bed.  Guess I need to check out!  Sorry. if'n I get too far out there, reel me back in Phil, hey that rhymes, LOL.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:58 AM

HEY, this will be an official Group Build as of tomorrow!Surprise

There is already 209 post and 14 pages and this thing has not really even kicked off yet, this is going to be a Monster GB.Hmm

I would like to take the time to say Thank You Phil H for the idea and implementation of this adventure. Toast

Now lets see some BUILDS!!!!!!!!!!!Cool

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, September 19, 2010 10:41 AM

Gunpla Master

HEY, this will be an official Group Build as of tomorrow!Surprise

There is already 209 post and 14 pages and this thing has not really even kicked off yet, this is going to be a Monster GB.Hmm

I would like to take the time to say Thank You Phil H for the idea and implementation of this adventure. Toast

Now lets see some BUILDS!!!!!!!!!!!Cool

Hey GM,

I'm thinking this is going to be HUGE. In addition to the Valkyries, we've got some pretty decent representation of the Destroids too, so it's certainly going to be interesting.

I'd like to say thanks to everyone for your interest and for digging out some real rarities and in some cases, ordering some not so inexpensive kits to contribute.

Now let's have some fun with this. Big Smile

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