Falklands War GB feeler.

LOL I´m still far far away from having the Malvinas Air War collection that I want, maybe I hve 20 more Argntinian subjets to build and then the Harrier and Sea Harrier and the British helicopters

Here a couple of pictures of the SUEs during the war, the Exocet with the wing tanks is a common sight here.

I have tons of Super Etendrd details pics, ask what you want.

best regards

Jere

WOW - el_jere may have an entire Falklands/Malvinas collection all by himself!! Your Etandard - is that using one drop tank + an Exocet on opposite pylons? I'd never seen one like that. Great looking aircraft, and we probably will be asking for information along the way. Welcome aboard, I'll add you to the build list on the main Group Build page.

Hi there guys

I would like to join the GB, I like to model Argentinian subjets and have some of the Malvinas war like the A-4C(I still have to model an A-4B and Q)

1/48 Pucara,

a 1/72 Super Etendard

1/48 Canberra

I can maybe build a 1/48 Super Etendard or if I got one Hasegawa A-4B/C I will build a Fuerza Aerea or Armada Skyhawk.

Or maybe a Dagger if I got an Eduard or Hobbyboss Mrage kit!

Or a 1/48 revell or Hase Learjet 35!

There is so much subjets to choose! LOL

If any of you need some info on Argentinian planes I got plenty

best regards to all

Jeremias

Milairjunkie mentioned triple-mounts (And I must have missed his mention from a few posts back regarding the type in the picture!)... maybe they had the option of mounting a single -60 or three of the smaller unit that carried 7 rockets as seen in the Uraguayan version that I found?

I think I'll be going for the -60s (with end caps) if I can either find or fabricate them.

So it does. I knew you could make it bigger, but never spotted the labels, DOH. That looks similar to the pod you found whcih also has 19 rockets. So it looks like it carries both the 7 and 19 rocket pod. I am guessing the LAU-60 is American, but i don't recall if its in any of the Hasegawa sets.

a-ha! Bish, that picture is available in a much larger size on Wikipedia. I can actually zoom in on one of the rocket pods... which has a tidy little sign in front of it reading "LAU-60", a 19-rocket version.

Bish, that kit looks like it has similarly-sized pods, it could work. Milairjunkie, no the other pic wasn't Argentinian, just seemed to be a decent view of the area. The links you just posted also show the pods capped off on either end, which would make sense until they were in need of launching them. My kit is also in 1/72, those 2.75" rockets suddenly turn into something around 1mm diameter... my eyes aren't that good!!! So I may want the caps in place anyway.

I think that pic is an A/C from Sri-Lanka.

 Here are a couple of Argentinian pics;

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/Pucara1.jpg

http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=41517&st=0

The Wiki pic of the Pucara has a three canister in front of it which are LAU-60's - it also has the napalm tanks as found at Goose Green. 

I agree, two on top, two below and three across the middle. I am pretty sure the hasegawa set includes end caps both front and rear. I think this is the set you need, notice the pods on the Kfir

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HAX7201

That's what I was thinking too Bish, it's not a great photo (of the pucara) but I'm seeing more like 7 rockets in those pods, not the 19 in the big pod. They were often flown with end caps to improve the aerodynamics anyway from some references I've found.

The 3 on the Pucara look more like the one on the aircraft in the back ground. The one in the fore ground looks fatter and shorter and looks like it carries more rockets.

There are a number of those Hasegawa sets and at least one carries rocket pods, but all mine are at home so i am not sure which one you might need.

Hey Bish, yes, that seems to be the best picture I've found as well.

Milairjunkie - what can I say, if it's not a Sidewinder or a Sparrow I'm lost! So if I'm loading for a ground attack run, napalm tanks could actually be built up from scratch fairly easily, and a little splash of red indicator marking. For the rocket pods (after a 2-minute search!) I found this one opened up:

but is that the same unit that is mounted x3 here?

The LHS that is closing down soon (sigh...) I think has a box of Hasegawa modern US ordnance, I'll have to take a peek at it & see what is actually included.

The Pucara was destined to be fitted with rockets & napalm as far as I am aware, although only 3 napalm tanks ever made it from the Goose Green arms dump, being dropped on, but missing 2 Para!

One triple rack on the centerline with 3 x LAU-3 type (19 rocket), or

2 triple racks on the outboard pylons, again each with 3 x LAU-3 type (19 rocket) pods.

The napalm tanks (centerline I think) look like;

http://img18.imageshack.us/i/napalmgoosegreen.jpg/

A centerline ferry tank as used on the A-4 may also have been fitted;

For some good general info & comprehensive details on the aircraft & camo patterns used, have a look at these;

http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/revista/notas/pucara/Pucarae.htm

http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/revista/notas/pucara2/Pucarae2.htm (paint & camo info)

http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/revista/notas/pucara3/puca3e.htm

Maybe this photo will help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pucara_armamento_picture.jpg

This is one of the wiki links i am useing. Not reall a great deal when it comes to air dropped munitions. says the pucaras carried 105mm rockets and napalm, but doesn't say from where. I would guess American

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_air_forces_in_the_Falklands_War#Armament

a-ha - if in doubt, throw some Dark Sea Grey at it! That's what my Sea Harrier will be carrying. We seem to be gathering info here to keep it somewhat separate from the builds, so I'll post the question here.

I've ordered the Special Hobby Pucara, shipped out yesterday. All the reviews I read mention it's a little work, but worth it - resin & PE are included. What isn't included though are underwing stores. So, where does one look for Argentinian rocket pods, napalm tanks or iron bombs? Any ideas??

That's a great pic of the Chinook lifting the HU-5 Wessex . I've been wanting to find a pic of the HU-5 and it's color scheme , it appears to be the same color as the HAS-3 [RAF Dark Sea Grey ].

                                      John .

I was thinking of useing wire along the straps of a netted load and supporting it that way. Possably adding some clear rods as well.

2012 is also 30 years since my unit was formed. It was origina;lly JHSU, Joint Helicopter Support Unit. It was formed just before the war and the falklands was its first deployment. And one guy from the unit was killed there. Since Sept 2009 the unit is now squadron, but those of us there since before the change still refer to it as JHSU, and we are still Hookers.

Nice find on the 747. Wounder if any of the airliner builders will be interested in tackling that.

747 anyone;

A BA liveried 747 was used for transportation following the war - it was eventually purchased by the RAF & continued its work;

Decent pics here; http://www.freewebs.com/theflyingmonkey/thefalklands.htm

& here;  http://www.globalaviationresource.com/reports/2009/thefalklands.php

A few more usefull pics of Bravo November;

& here on SS Uganda:  http://www.seadogs-reunited.com/Chinook%20landing.jpg

& some further information here:  http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/BravoNovember.html

You could find a way to use the sling as the mount the Chinook, maybe hide a mounting rod inside of the webbing/straps etc.

Nice indeed. And i like the pic of her lifting the load from a ship. I am going to try and see if i can do a Dio of her lifting an underslung load, so thats a handy ref pic.

Nice she is, she has managed to get various pilots 4 Distinguished Flying Crosses & also hold a record for carrying troops in action at 81!

O, nice. I think the one i am building is BN, at least i assume it is, will check when i get back to Odiham tomorrow. They rotate the cabs regulaly through ASfghan, so i will see if i can find her laetr this year. Be nice to get some up to date pics to go with the 82 model.

A couple of interesting Chinook things;

As has been mentioned already, a captured Argentinian Army Chinook was used to repair a UK bird. AE-520, an Argentine CH-47C from the 601st Assault Helicopter Squadron was captured virtually intact beside the Governors House in Stanley, she was duly raped by souvenir hunters & then returned to the UK. Back in the UK she was re-serialed as ZH275 & used as a ground trainer until her rear pylon was stolen?

AE-520;

Meanwhile, in Oman CH-47 HC-2 ZA704 attempted a running landing too steeply & wrecked it's rear rotors & pylon after contact with the large planet below. ZA704 was shipped back to the UK & the rear pylon from the ex Argentine AE-520 was used to repair ZA704, the parts being converted from C to D spec in the process. ZA704 was (until last year anyway) being used by British Forces in Afghanistan. ZA704 was the subject of much unnecessary public outrage when the whole story of the "dodgy cut-n-shut" helicopter was pumped out by British papers.

ZA704;

Another British Chinook ZA718 (Bravo November), which was the only one to survive the Argentinian attack on the  SS Atlantic Conveyor & the only British Chinook in the Falklands at the time continues to serve in Afghanistan today. ZA718 has also served in Lebanon, Germany, Northern Ireland, Kurdistan, & Iraq, she is also featured in Wikipedia. Bravo November has also been the subject of much ridiculous press coverage in the UK due to her age - Don't these *** know it's bad manners to discuss a ladies age?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravo_November

Bravo November then;

Bravo November Now

Alright gang, the official group build thread has been started up, we'll keep this alive a spot to show resources, picture samples etc., but all the building madness will be kept on the other thread here: /forums/t/134921.aspx

Come on over & let us know whet you're planning to build!

The GR.3's operated from Hermes and Port San Carlos. 6 were carried down on the Atlantic Conveyer

OK, so both are appropriate as I do want something that was in-theatre athe the time. So was the GR.3 operating off of the carriers as well?

Both seem to get favourable reviews online, with the Italeri having a few issues with the weapons load and Airfix being accused of too-deep engraving on the panels. I think I may be leaning towards Airfix's naval version.

I'm also keeping an eye on the kits at my (soon to cease operations) LHS. They have kits of the type 42 destroyer and one of the carriers... Haven't built a ship in probably 20 years, but if the price is right I may grab one of these. (Maybe I can try one of those crazy forced perspective deals, with my 1/72 Harrier flying away with the carrier in the background....)

vance, not sure about those kits. But yes, the GR.3 was used by the RAF and FRS.1 by the navy, during the conflict.

Hey guys, just checking out my options for a 1/72 Harrier, with Falklands decals OOB... Does anyone have any experience with the new Airfix FRS1 kit (http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/harrier-retires/a03078-sea-harrier-frs1-a03078/) or the Italeri GR.3 offering? (http://www.italeri.com/VisualizzaProdotto.aspx?PROD=00249)

Also, not sure of the designations - would GR.3 and FRS1 have both been active in the Falklands??

Bondo  No the GB page is not up yet. With an April start date i would imagine sometime in Feb. vance and myself will need to co-ordinate as i will be doing the intial post and he is running with the participants list. It is also working on the badge.

Aaronw  Will be glad to have to aboard. The GB is now going to run from April 2nd this year to June 14th next year. So you have plenty of time to decided for deffinate what you want to build.