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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:09 AM

The RN used a number of Type 21 Frigates during the Falklands campaign, and, in fact, lost two of them, the HMS Antelope and HMS Antrim.

The only model that I know of to this day that represents a Type 21 Frigate is the venerable old Airfix 1/600 HMS Amazon kit.

Years ago, I began converting and detailing the Airfix kit to represent one of these ships, but I cannot remember which one it was.

I can date the build because I had to delay to await the publishing of this book:

The book was published in 1990.

This is as far as I got. I cut it down to waterline, stuck it to a base, did some painting and added some generic photoetch rails and other scratchbuilt details.As you can see, it's got quite a long way to go.

It's interesting that I think it was only last week that I was considering junking this build, as it's just too old and I've lost interest for a couple of decades.

Now, I'm all fired up and raring to go, seriously, I don't want to wait for the start of this GB.

Thanks Bish, you've done me a great service.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:15 AM

Just updateing the first post with a list of what was used during the war. Going to add to it over time. Never realised just how big the RN task force was. Didn't realise we had that many ships.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:52 AM

bondoman  Thanks very much for that list of Argentinian ships and aircraft. I had totally forgotten about the Daggers. I am not sure but they may have also used Chinooks at the time, but can check on that.

There is a VC 10 and C-130 permantly deployed to the Falklands as well. I will try and get some photos of the ones there when i go.

One small thing, theres no Royal title for the British Army.

Glad to see alot of interest. I realise there a long time before it starts.  We will try and keep in on the fdront pages for a while. But then look out for the build thread around end of August. Might even take a list of names and send some PM's out closer to the time.

Thanks guys.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:30 AM

Apparently a lot of good figures too.

Humphrey the Wessex HAS,3 is a favorite.

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Posted by MrSquid2U on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:15 AM

Great topic! I just saw the Military Channel Doco on the war too!

I've already got Dragon's Sheffield, Invincible and a couple of others along with a Harrier in the stash. Just wake me up when the start day arrives. I'll be in sleep mode till then thank you.Wink

       

 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:11 AM

TigerEP1

I am getting interested in this, just need to find out what armor/light guns were used, heck even jeeps/bikes whatever if it has wheels and its on the ground count me in..lol

The Royal Army used Scorpions and Scimitars. The only Argie armor was LVT-7 amphib. Those all are easy to find.

Argentina fielded a Roland missile truck that killed a Harrier, and kept the RAF off Stanley Airport.

It was a war, like the 1972 Yom Kippur war where infantry SAMs and guns were superior to aircraft ECMs.

Arg fielded the Roland, Grail, but also Tigercats and radar controlled Oerlikons.

RA fielded Blowpipe, Milan, Stinger.

 

 

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Monday, January 10, 2011 10:34 PM

I am getting interested in this, just need to find out what armor/light guns were used, heck even jeeps/bikes whatever if it has wheels and its on the ground count me in..lol

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM

Starting to sense some excitement here, we're looking good. Big Smile And for anyone ordering items or still needing research, there is all kinds of time. Shouldn't be any problem adding a list of probables to the front page, and if anyone digs up some interesting, but not very obvious, research online - we can post those links in one spot as we find them.

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, January 10, 2011 6:56 PM

A good subject would be the RAF Victor K.2. Black Buck missions were flown from Ascension Island btw.

The Matchbox/ Revell model is a good one.

Just off the top of my head, the Argentines flew A-4c's, the very important Super Etendard, IAI Daggers (Israeli Mirage 5), Mirage 3, C-130s, P-2 Neptunes, Canberras, a 707, and Pucaras.

Their ships were the General Belgrano, the Vienticinco de Mayo aircraft carrier (former HMS Venerable) and various destroyers, a couple of subs and lots of auxiliaries.

Add to the RAF Nimrod, VC-10 and C-130.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, January 10, 2011 6:10 PM

yay, for some reason that didnt turn up when i searched, maybe i got the spelling wrong. Thanks for that. i love to over done camo on page 2, looks so awesome.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 5:19 PM

Glad to have you on board Frank. I will do a bit of digging and i will do that list on the front page of this thread. That will give people plenty of time.

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, January 10, 2011 5:09 PM

I would be interested in this GB too!  If possible, when it starts up, could you put a list of eligible subjects on page 1?  I am afraid I do not know a lot about the hardware used there, but I am really looking forward to learning about it.

Frank 

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 4:56 PM

Deffinatly. can you get these where you are.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AZD7213

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, January 10, 2011 4:23 PM

Im in, Tamiya 1:72 A-4 Skyhowk, gonna see if i can get some Argentinian markings for it.  

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:58 PM

Nice one John. Theres 9 months to do any research you need, so no rush.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:54 PM

That didn't take long. Seems 2 troops from b sqn Blues and Royals took part in the war. So your deffinatly ok.

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:53 PM

I'm very much interested in joining in ;

I would like to build a HAS-3 and HU-5 Wessex which landed and tried to recover a reconnaissance SAS party on south Georgia on April 21 .

The italeri HAS-3 kit has markings for a HMS Antrim bird , as for the HU-5 I have a lot of RAF/RN decals in the stash I can use . One of my reference books mentions two Wessex HU-5's [XT464 and Xt473] operating from RFA Tidespring went to collect the SAS Commando's but crashed due to bad weather .

I don't have any pic's of the HU-5 , so I'm not sure of the color scheme , perhaps matt olive drab ?

I suppose the Royal Navy markings would be in black also ?

I'll have to do some more research on the color's and markings for the HU-5 Wessex .

                                                 John .

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:52 PM

Glad to have you. I am not 100% certain that Scorpions were used during the war, so i will do a bit of digging just to be certain.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:50 PM

I will certainly partake in this GB. I have plenty of subjects in my stash, plus I would really love to add and build a Scorpion to my collection. Count me in.

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:43 PM

I think i got mixed up because i was lucky enough to spend a week on Trafalgar about 10 years ago and that has stuck in my mind. I am not even sure if Trafalgar was around in 82.

Would be nice if we could get both ship and sub into the build.

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:38 PM

It would have been handy if it was the Trafalgar, could use the new Airfix kit. With regard to the previous reference to Skywave ship kits, I think they're very good. I built a Skywave German Z Class destroyer way back in the Destroyer GB, years ago.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:23 PM

I first went down end of Feb 08. I been at Odiham since Nov 07, with JHSU, now JHSS. Pity theres no more Chinooks down there.

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Posted by paul_toz on Monday, January 10, 2011 3:20 PM

Bish

Ye, would be great to have you on board. I take it you are ex RAF. when did you do your tours down there.

Yes, ex-RAF, I was down there Jan-Apr 2006 and over Xmas 1998(?) - both on 78 Sqn.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 2:53 PM

Subs are deffinatly ok. And thanks for reminding me of the name of the sub. Don't know why i thought Trafalgar.

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, January 10, 2011 2:49 PM

Hi Bish,

I like this idea. The Falklands War made a big impression on me as an aviation mad 15 year old. I'd probably look at a Sea Harrier.

What about submarines ? The General Belgrano was sunk by HMS Conqueror, a Churchill class sub. Not sure if there is a kit out there though.

I found this page useful if you are keen to do an Argentine Navy vessel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War

Cheers

Tony

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 2:20 PM

Ye, would be great to have you on board. I take it you are ex RAF. when did you do your tours down there.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by paul_toz on Monday, January 10, 2011 2:17 PM

I'm interested in this - I did 2 tours down the Falklands on Chinooks.

I've also just started a 1/700 Dragon HMS Sheffield from 1982. You can do all the Batch 42 destroyers with the Dragon kits - even the Argentinean ones that stayed in port for the war.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, January 10, 2011 1:04 PM

jbrady

...I'm still looking at the P-51 sticking out of the sheet rock where it ended it's first and only flight.

oops! Uncontrolled powered flight, or fit of glue-inspired rage?! Stick out tongue Finish date lands in 2012, you've got time to meditate on it!

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 10, 2011 1:03 PM

I knew there was some connection with Pearl Harbour.  I take it that was the P-51 for the Mighty 8th GB. Well, theres plenty of time yet. As i mentioned before, maybe take a break, step back for a while.

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Posted by jbrady on Monday, January 10, 2011 12:55 PM

Bish: Phoenix was undamaged in the Pearl Harbor attack. She participated in the search for the attacking force after the raid... not sure if I want to build. I'm still looking at the P-51 sticking out of the sheet rock where it ended it's first and only flight.

   

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