Falklands/Malvinas War 30th Anniversary GB

I can add or remove whatever you like, we won't bother you if you miss one. (Take off the Harrier for now right?) It's a pretty rough list - I'm hoping to get all three of mine done over the time we have!

Just leave both aircraft, For harrier i have already the ejection seat, only i must check the status of super etendard, i leave it started in a box for very long time, i fear decals decadence.

We are just few hours of the 29th anniversary of the Argentine landing in the Falklands / Malvinas.

A british movie with some humor and historical inaccuracies reports the first hours of the conflict in the South Atlantic. Unfortunately the first part is no longer available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib-JWhU58E8

I just picked up a copy of UK magazine Classic Aircraft (Feb issue) with a 10-page feature on Harriers, includes a few bits on the Falklands deployment.

Well, its now the 29th anneversary of the beginging of the conflict, so i think this GB is officially a go. You only have 1 year and 73 days to get your kits built, so lets see who will be the first to get some progress picks.

I am off today to see some of the Islands own shock troops, also known as King Penguins, so i might pick up some modelling insperation there.

Bish

Well, its now the 29th anneversary of the beginging of the conflict, so i think this GB is officially a go. You only have 1 year and 73 days to get your kits built, so lets see who will be the first to get some progress picks.

I am off today to see some of the Islands own shock troops, also known as King Penguins, so i might pick up some modelling insperation there.

Does anyone have that old 1/12 scale Falklands King Penguins that Airfix released in '82? I'll be a little slow off the start as I finish up some other kits, but I shouldn't be too far behind.

Well if anyone has it i have some good ref pics.

I won't be starting mine to well late in the year. Think this is going to be a busy year with work, so not going to get alot of modelling doen this year.

Well not starting, just planning and discuss about the super etendard specify plane.

I found in my mess stock the old academy kit frozen about 15 years ago.

To save some space i put more than a kit in a box . used to store the decals and clear parts in more safe places, the again i miss the decals .On the instruction is reported the plane numbered zero-one on the nose, but at the war time only five etendard was delivered, so the number of etendard right for this GB are only five .

For others that build the super etendard please speak about which specific plane intentioned to build , to avoid same plane in the GB 

Harrier kit will be delivered next week

Then the kit as i found it:

(in the same box spitfire mk xvi from matchbox and a very raw kit:ms-406 from smer)

Already started at the time some tipe of detailing. Scratched the forward wheels weel (i think i'll remove and restart it) holed airbrakes. Unfortunately the wings was already glued  so no flaps mod (or will be hard to do) Some alluminium already done on landing gear and weels ....

Even cockpit was glued but i'll scratch all ,ejection seat included (the original it's very ugly).

For the rest the kit is great, Panel lines seems correct and finely engraved .Because i use brushes for painting i'll need to re-engrave all panel lines to avoid disappearing of it ..

For the Harrier in mind to do some extra work but need to find more references

Bish

Well if anyone has it i have some good ref pics.

If you have some about gr3 i'll appreciate

Probably oriented to put it in a ground diorama (if the gr3 was used from ground bases in this conflict). Also found on my stock two martin baker broughted for a matchbox two seat jaguar (but after seen the kit I preferred to save it )

That's all for now !

bsyamato I think that counts as the first progress pics. Afraid i don't have any Harrier pics, but Scorpio put some up a while back of an aircraft in a museum in Newq Zealand. He had some great pics on there, should be a real help. Can't recall if it was in this thread or the other one, but i am sure he will point you in the right direction.

I just had a look, Mikey's Harrier pics are on page 10 of this thread. No cockpit photos though, they were afraid he'd try to start her up!

Bish

bsyamato I think that counts as the first progress pics

no no that was a pre-progress post

ops  I did the wrong question about gr3... i refered to a possible diorama, i need some in field pics if the gr3 was used out of carriers . Actually i see only gr3 on carriers in this war. No fear, i'll need to search again on my aircraft library, sure i have something in an aviation enciclopedia about falkland war, and surely some article on mags for the .. 20° years anniversary. 

Opps, my bad, must have missed those. Thanks Vance, and sorry Mikey.

The carriers did carry their own Sea Harriers, FRS.1's i believe. The RAF's GR.3 were carried down on container ships, at least some were. Then they were transferd to the carriers.

Bish

Opps, my bad, must have missed those. Thanks Vance, and sorry Mikey.

ahh! i'll try to find myself some infield pictures of it , if someone need try to search on flickr or others picture sharing sites, dismissed harriers are in good number around the world.

Then, my harrier landed on my workbench after two or three minutes hovering on it (too traffic on the workbench, or must call a big mess ).

Escorted by a revell luftwaffe f-4f phantom II in 1/72 (off topic, but again shocked for thevell of detail of this plane thinking to built it soon)

The harrier kit from italeri should be an old esci mould (unfortunetely failed italian brand ).

apparently it's a very good kit for this scale, noticed finest panel lines than the newest super etendard kit

I'll need to not do primer layer, the risk is to cover these lines:

kit provides airbrake options nicely done.

The ejction seat compared to the aeroclub one

mmmm   should keep the original from kit?

choosing to use the aeroclub piece this is the first obstacle

the piece don't fit on the cockpit tub . And the plastic of cockpit walls are too wide, what to do is put all original cockpit pieces onto nearest trash, improve the cockpit walls and scratch the rest ()

on the nozzles i started the firts mod

drilled a first hole

orizontal separation of these pieces make an easier way to refine it.

that's all for the daily hobby hour (first 45 minuted used to contemple the phantom kit  )

at the next

bsyamato, looks like you have some work to do on that cockpit! For the nozzles, you are drilling out the vents & replacing them? Very nice upgrade.

bsyamato:

I´m not in my home now but giveme a couple of days and I will read my book about the SUE to let you know wich machines were involvel in the project, I belive that must be 201 to 206, And I´m sure that the 202 was involved in the two more significative acttions of those planes during the war wich were the attack on the Sheffield and the Atlantic Conveyor.

The kit´s decals are almost useless, I recomend you to get an aftermarket set, www.condordecals.com.ar as one.

let me know if you need something more.

best regards

Jeremias

VanceCrozier

bsyamato, looks like you have some work to do on that cockpit! For the nozzles, you are drilling out the vents & replacing them? Very nice upgrade.

yess! i'll dig totally to leave nozzles as a thin tube

found this another walkaround (that seems the same in this post) http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/luc_colin/harrier_gr3_walk.htm

(i have already told about a good phantom kit?)

just founded the decals sheet on my messy stock. (now left only the canopy)

strange but thrue the sheet give me the planes 201 to 205, and included the sinking marks, that as you speak must be the 202, just let me know (who build the super etendard) the wished machine, i have not problems to reproduce another . there's much time before to put on decals i don't use NOS when i build kits.

ops.. i forgot

The harrier options are two:

No1 Squadron, on the hms hermes, machine xz988

No 4 Squadron , same carrier machine xv 744

at the next

bsyamato

 

 

just founded the decals sheet on my messy stock. (now left only the canopy)

strange but thrue the sheet give me the planes 201 to 205, and included the sinking marks, that as you speak must be the 202, just let me know (who build the super etendard) the wished machine, i have not problems to reproduce another . there's much time before to put on decals i don't use NOS when i build kits.

Hi there,

Sorry for th delay in writing, but I was out of home for the weekend.

On april 19th 1982 the first two SUEs 3-A-202 and 3-A-204  were deployed to the southern base of Almirante Quijada, on Tierra del Fuego, the next day th units 3-A-203 and 3-A-205 were deployed too, all the personal and th spares as well as th weapons were sended in several logistc flights.

Because of th French gouverment embargo, the unit 3-A-201 were used as a temporary fount of spares.

The units 202 and 203 were used in both atacks, against HMS Sheffield and th Atlantic Conveyor, and th 202 (according to Argentina) was used in an atack againt the HMS Invencible on may 30th

I´m going to build the 202 (I belive).

If you can DON¨T use th kit´decals, are almost totally wrong, all the stencils are in a wrong colour, incomplete, th sun on the tail should be golden, not yellow, the escruadrilla badge, is wrong in size and register. if yo can get one set of Aerocalcas, wich is a complment of the kit´s decals (you still have to use th anchos and th code numbrs) or Condordecals, wich s a complete set and allow you to build any SUE, but thy are a little thick.

let me know if you need somthing more

best regards

Jeremias

el_jere

 

bsyamato:

 

 

 

just founded the decals sheet on my messy stock. (now left only the canopy)

strange but thrue the sheet give me the planes 201 to 205, and included the sinking marks, that as you speak must be the 202, just let me know (who build the super etendard) the wished machine, i have not problems to reproduce another . there's much time before to put on decals i don't use NOS when i build kits.

 

 

Hi there,

Sorry for th delay in writing, but I was out of home for the weekend.

On april 19th 1982 the first two SUEs 3-A-202 and 3-A-204  were deployed to the southern base of Almirante Quijada, on Tierra del Fuego, the next day th units 3-A-203 and 3-A-205 were deployed too, all the personal and th spares as well as th weapons were sended in several logistc flights.

Because of th French gouverment embargo, the unit 3-A-201 were used as a temporary fount of spares.

The units 202 and 203 were used in both atacks, against HMS Sheffield and th Atlantic Conveyor, and th 202 (according to Argentina) was used in an atack againt the HMS Invencible on may 30th

I´m going to build the 202 (I belive).

If you can DON¨T use th kit´decals, are almost totally wrong, all the stencils are in a wrong colour, incomplete, th sun on the tail should be golden, not yellow, the escruadrilla badge, is wrong in size and register. if yo can get one set of Aerocalcas, wich is a complment of the kit´s decals (you still have to use th anchos and th code numbrs) or Condordecals, wich s a complete set and allow you to build any SUE, but thy are a little thick.

let me know if you need somthing more

best regards

 

Jeremias

aargh!!! more money to spend for decals!!!!

mmm effectively decals from kit are a.. little too coloured

i'll do a search tomorrow contacting all stores that i use for model shopping. ok for 202 , i'll remove from list.

I discovered this night that original mould of academy super etendard is from italeri but this sounds a little strange for me, panel lines are so good..

Vance i heard even about helle super etendard, sure you want to build this kit??

harrier little update

continuing on nozzles, used the dremel to refine and breaked one

plastic patch and continue on second nozzle (x4 ..)

that's all for now, about finishing a mech so i'll have more space on workbench

Plugging away on the FV107 - need to figure out how to get pics from my phone to photobucket so I can throw something up here. A bit bogged down on the etch set, but I'll be sure to put a pre-paint photo up!

bsyamato

 

 

Vance i heard even about helle super etendard, sure you want to build this kit??

It's third on the list, I'm hoping to get to it before the Build is over. I've found several of the old Heller and Airfix 1/72 jets. I know they have issues but after paying only $5 each for them, I figure I can put up with some building issues - they'll be in my "build something quick" pile!

Wow, cracked open the Pucara. The cockpit is about a dozen little rezzy pieces, the whole thing maybe the size of a pair of dice. Grab the optivisors...

bondoman

Wow, cracked open the Pucara. The cockpit is about a dozen little rezzy pieces, the whole thing maybe the size of a pair of dice. Grab the optivisors...

Beautiful stuff though isn't it!! I was kind of surprised at the size of the airframe myself, quite a bit larger than the little Sea Harrier.

dupes, hope you can get some photos up, will be nice to see it. You just had me stumpped then, FV107, i have not heard that before. And i was in an Armoured Inf Battalion for 12 years. But in my defence we had Sabres and they were only used by Recce, so i never got to work on them.

Put the cockpit together, at least the plastic. In order from lower right and counterclockwise-

our favorite scaling tool: the cockpit floor and consoles; the resin bang seats; the fusie, and a scaling element (ground attack bird).

VanceCrozier

 

bsyamato:

 

 

 

Vance i heard even about helle super etendard, sure you want to build this kit??

 

 

It's third on the list, I'm hoping to get to it before the Build is over. I've found several of the old Heller and Airfix 1/72 jets. I know they have issues but after paying only $5 each for them, I figure I can put up with some building issues - they'll be in my "build something quick" pile!

actually found airfix super etendard for 3.00 € i'll buy it with others airfix kits at same price!!! if needed i'll sacrifice it for the academy kit.

finally some start here

Waiting for the super etendard from airfix (to stole some decals) i started the academy kit..

I know that lots of academy mouls are from others brands. I was very surprised few days ago to discover that the original mould of the super etendard was from italeri !!!

And the harrier (italeri box) i'm building was from esci.. hobby kits it's a big mess!!

then the SE real start !

vertical rudder base corrected with this cut

removed old scratched front well (totally wrong)

After documentation consultig, these pieces over cockpit are not in the real .rear the ejection seat is full of various instrumentation box.

added thin floor to save space. First piece for instuments panel

Founded an old ejection seat (from italeri f-4 phantom) to use as base for stratching the SE seat.

Also added latteral consolles of cockpit

second frame of IP. This version (even if not too precise) should be the most correct between all SE cockpit i see. On recent upgrades the clocks on left was replaced by digital instruments , but at the falklands time i think all was in analogic way

final test fitting

IP cover was shortened and thinned . I must move one or two millimeters forwad the whole instrumentation complex, the SE have a very claustrophobic cockpit

No updates for the harrier, but finally fouded good pictures for the cockpit ( another scratchbuild needed)

At the next!!!

bsyamato

bsyamoto - I am always shocked at what you are able to do at 1/72 scale. That is some amazing work on the cockpit.

bondoman

Put the cockpit together, at least the plastic. In order from lower right and counterclockwise-

our favorite scaling tool: the cockpit floor and consoles; the resin bang seats; the fusie, and a scaling element (ground attack bird).

How is the fit of the cockpit? I seem to remember somebody mentioning the fuselage walls (or cockpit floor etc.) could use a little thinning.

Excelent work on the SUE cockpit!