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Posted by bondoman on Monday, March 28, 2011 9:18 PM

Hey Vetteman- I just acquired Crying a copy of a book called "The Yoxford Boys" published in 1971, a unit history of the 357th FG. It's got lots and lots of info about Roberson and "Passion Wagon". Let me know if you need any research, I will try to help.

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Posted by dante821 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:40 PM

Don Von Hammer,

I have been lurking at this group build for a while now and would like to join in.  I plan on building a P-38J and a P-40B (both are 1/48)  if those are acceptable.   The P-38J will be started first since I am also in the P-38 Lightning group build.  These will be my first builds in about 30 years but I loved Monogram models when I was younger so I couldn't pass up a chance to be made in the Monogram Mafia.

dante821

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:49 PM

Yes.. Don Hammerloni.. I come to you today.. with a small token of progress.. the panel lines between the upper and lower fuselage are being a PITA...

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Pay non attention to the YFM-1a Airacuda and the BF-109C.Whistling.. these are not the builds you are looking for...Indifferent

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:36 PM

p38j: why do you have your models hanging like that?

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:47 PM

Bondoman I thank you for your kind offer and I may take you up on it shortly, in fact I may just drive you crazy Big Smile

Don Hammer and guys an young lady I wish to submit my official start pictures of the P-51D Passion Wagon. Box art showing the kit is Revell Monogram and I got interior green painted and a bit of gluing done, well the seats and drop tanks are glued Hmm

I am in hope that this qualifies as an official start, but I will try and get a bit more done on it this afternoon.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:49 PM

[quote user="CallSignOWL"]

p38j: why do you have your models hanging like that?

OWL.. ,its not real obvious from the pic.. but they're hanging like that because I just shot them with rattle can primer.. and they're hanging in my scratch-built spray booth while they dry... Whistling which is a oven overhead exhaust fan, like you would have in your kitchen.. I duct taped furnace filters around 3 sides and the bottom, the hood comes with a fan, filter and light.. If you use the charcoal filter, it cuts down on the fumes and I spray inside.. I have it hanging in my mancave by some lamp chain and hooks from the ceiling.. The furnace filters stop the overspray, the fan catches the rest, and pulls it thru the charcoal filter, works really good.. Yes

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:58 PM

[quote user="p38jl"]

CallSignOWL

p38j: why do you have your models hanging like that?

OWL.. ,its not real obvious from the pic.. but they're hanging like that because I just shot them with rattle can primer.. and they're hanging in my scratch-built spray booth while they dry... Whistling which is a oven overhead exhaust fan, like you would have in your kitchen.. I duct taped furnace filters around 3 sides and the bottom, the hood comes with a fan, filter and light.. If you use the charcoal filter, it cuts down on the fumes and I spray inside.. I have it hanging in my mancave by some lamp chain and hooks from the ceiling.. The furnace filters stop the overspray, the fan catches the rest, and pulls it thru the charcoal filter, works really good.. Yes

...hey Chief, who does your electrical?!

 

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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  • From: Hancock, Me USA
Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:14 PM

Idea[quote user="VanceCrozier"]

p38jl:

CallSignOWL

p38j: why do you have your models hanging like that?

OWL.. ,its not real obvious from the pic.. but they're hanging like that because I just shot them with rattle can primer.. and they're hanging in my scratch-built spray booth while they dry... Whistling which is a oven overhead exhaust fan, like you would have in your kitchen.. I duct taped furnace filters around 3 sides and the bottom, the hood comes with a fan, filter and light.. If you use the charcoal filter, it cuts down on the fumes and I spray inside.. I have it hanging in my mancave by some lamp chain and hooks from the ceiling.. The furnace filters stop the overspray, the fan catches the rest, and pulls it thru the charcoal filter, works really good.. Yes

 

...hey Chief, who does your electrical?!

 

 

ummm I do.. !  lol.. cut up an old extension cord and rewired it... then jus plugger her in to the wall..Propeller

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Posted by Reasoned on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:27 PM

vetteman42

Don Hammer and guys an young lady I wish to submit my official start pictures of the P-51D Passion Wagon. Box art showing the kit is Revell Monogram and I got interior green painted and a bit of gluing done, well the seats and drop tanks are glued Hmm

http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww122/randysmodels/Arval%20Roberson%20P-51B/Arval%20Roberson%20P-51D/01BoxArtRevellP-51D.jpg

 

Perhaps you could clarify, I was looking at the crazy checkered nose art wondering if that came on the decal sheet (it does after looking at the Revell website) and saw where "Big Beautiful Doll" was Lt. Col. John D. Landers.  According to "Fighter Pilot Ace List" he had 14.5 kills, yet it looks in the box picture he had a lot more than that.  I picked up the Tamiya F-51D (was on clearance) and am anxious to see your build.

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:02 PM

Herr Hammer, I present you my first offering: The A-10 Warthog.  Cockpit detail, simulated brake lines and scratched detail in the gear bays add additional detail to this kit.  And a special color-scheme to liven things up!   The bright ray of morning sunshine streaming through my window presented a nice photo opportunity.

BOMBS!!

 

OWL

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Now that I'm here, where am I??

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Posted by eatthis on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:35 PM

tooled up a10 me likey :)

 

snow + 4wd + escessive hp = :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7egUIS70YM

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Posted by 40.mm on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:37 PM

owl - your da girl- outstanding when i get to an A10 hope mine works out half as good as yours!!!

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Posted by Reasoned on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:02 PM

Owl, the Hog looks great, I like the camo scheme.  With a 30mm gatling gun like that, who needs that many bombs? Wink

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by the real red baron on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:32 AM

nice owl i like that one Big SmileBig SmileBig SmileBig SmileBig SmileBig Smile

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:16 AM

Gotcha covered, V-Man..
Outstanding work Owl..

Dante, welcome to the "Del Costruzione Nostra", "This Build of Ours"... 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:44 AM

I ... saw where "Big Beautiful Doll" was Lt. Col. John D. Landers.  According to "Fighter Pilot Ace List" he had 14.5 kills, yet it looks in the box picture he had a lot more than that. 

After he took command of the 8th Air Force, Jimmy Doolittle allowed fighter pilots "kill credit" for enemy aircraft destroyed on the ground, so kill markings were sometimes applied to the pilot's aircraft by the crew chief.   It was strictly up to the pilot whether or not he did this...  Most didn't, as they felt that taking out an enemy aircraft on the ground was "easier" than doing it in the air, however, some of the guys that got damaged,  wounded, or even shot down while attacking Luftwaffe airlfields would argue that point...  While they may have had been low on pilots and fuel, the Luftwaffe was never short on AAA...

 A few pilots even changed the style of kill-marking to denote whether they had scored in the air or on the ground, usually in a mix of Hakenkreuz and Balkenkruez kill-markings... It varied from squadron to squadron, and from pilot to pilot...

Other times, kills that were credited initially to a pilot were later withdrawn (or given a "shared" kill) upon further review of gun camera footage, eyewitness accounts (both airborne and on the ground) and consolidation of debriefing reports...

The US Air Force only credits air-to-air kills by pilots (and gunners), and the American Fighter Aces Association only lists pilots (and WSOs) with five or more confirmed air-to-air kills.  Probables aren't credited... 

 BTW...There're a handful of bomber gunners that are also "Aces", however they are not recognized by the AFAA (It's a "Fighter Piots Only" club)..  On that note, one of the guys that flew with me on "FiFi" back in the 90's got a MiG-15 while a B-29 gunner in the Korean War.  Said he was actually firing at another MiG and the one he got just flat flew slap-into his line of fire, lol...

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:55 PM

Hans-I humbly submit my two build choices-1/48 P-51D & 1/24 Cobra

The Mustang will be built w/8th Air Force decals-not sure whose yet.  It's going to be a 'joint GB' build for Bish's 8th Air Force GB.

I'm planning on using the kit decals for the Essex Cobra......unless I can find some AM decals at a reasonable price.  Maybe even weather it up a bit.....like it would look like after a race.  That and the fact that in the '60's, going fast was the first priority.....looking good was further down the list.

I anxiously await your decision.

Bob

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:17 PM

How ya doin'?  Yo, Ant'ny, time for me ta stop messin' around and show my progress, capisce?

I wanted to get some pics up, to show that I haven't been sitting around watching all this time.  So, a progress update on my entries.

First up, the Zero.  This was an eBay find, an old boxing, that I originally picked up for my Midway collection.  The old box cover:

and a look at the parts:

Typical of Monogram's design at the time.  Very simple construction and operating features (working landing gear, spinning prop) with a decent level of detail, but perhaps not 100% by today's standards.  The cockpit consists basically of the instrument panel.  But once you close everything, you can't really see it, anyway.

The kit is basically an A6M5 model 52, which I say because of the exhaust stack.  I'll finish it in late-war IJN colors.  Breaking the assembly down into subassemblies, I did the cowling first.  Here it is, basically complete:

There was a hairline crack on the top side, which was easy enough to repair by flowing a little liquid cement into it.  From the right side:

Tamiya Flat Black out of the rattlecan, and Flat Silver for the prop and spinner.  A little Tamiya Flat Aluminum applied for chipping along the cowling panel seams, and also dry-brushed onto the engine details:

Of course, when the prop is in place, you can't see much of the engine at all, so I didn't want to waste a lot of extra effort on it.  I'm trying to keep this one out of the box as much as possible.  I did have to address the one part that was missing, the propeller shaft.  A piece of toothpick did the trick.

Final assembly of the fuselage and wings is awaiting completion on painting the pilot.

Here is a shot of my other entry, the SBD kit, which I will finish as a USAAC A-24 stationed in the Philipines in December 1941, inspired by, and as a tribute to, the men whose actions were described in "Doomed at the Start":

Most of the effort has gone into drilling out the holes in the dive brakes, which I'm doing in two passes, because the first bit that I used was a little too small, the holes didn't look quite right, when I was finished.  Also, I've laid down some color in the cockpit, and painted the crew (they're almost done.  For this kit, too, I'm trying to finish it out of box and not go nuts on it, because I want to finish it Wink

Both of these are relatively simple subjects, and I'm trying to keep it that way, while getting the best finish that I can.

Comments and criticism are welcome, thanks for looking!

 

Other Monogram kits in progress right  now:

2 P-36 kits in 1/72

2 P-40B's in 1/48

1 P-47B bubbletop in 1/48

Tom Daniel's Red Baron hot rod (for an automotive group build at AgapeModels.com)

Lots more in the stash!

 

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:49 PM

Baron, those two builds bring back some memories... I think the last time I built that Zero Jimmy Carter was in office...Wink

Same goes for my F-86, now that I think about it...Hmm I pulled mine off the sideline and resumed paint owrk today. I did nto have too much time at the pint bench today due to family matters. But I did get the IPs and cockpit side consoles on my builds drybrushed. Tomorrow will be clear glue over each instrument.

F-86 tub w/IP and IP seperate

F9F tub w/IP and IP seperate

More to come within 24 hrs or so...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by tonka on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:00 PM

Nice work all. Owl congrats on the finished A-10..nice job and cool camo!

 

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Posted by taxtp on Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:21 AM

Hi Hans,

Could you change my entry of the Bugatti to the Chaparral 2D Coupe please.

Thanks heaps

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:24 AM

Wow, nice Hog, Owl!

Done with the flurry of spring shows...time for the next 6-month build period before the fall ones kick in. Monogram goodness on the way!

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:41 AM

hey Owl... sweet Hog, like the camo colors..Yes

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:16 AM

Don Hammer- I started the F4B-4 on Sunday evening.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:14 AM

thanks guys, I like the camo too! The Monogram Hog is a nice kit. It just needs a tiny bit of TLC! Smile

I have also started on Monograms 1/48 Mustang. YOU can see in the sprue pic that I will be using a True Details resin seat. This is not to knock Monograms offering, which is loads better than the seat Tamiya gives you in their kit btw, but to use it in the last mustang I have in the stash.

I also like the supplied cockpit detail better than Tamiya's too. It seems that there is more detail there and its more prominent.

 

OWL

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:27 AM

Owl I gotta agree on those True Details seats. Yes the Monogram kit seats are good, and their molded on belts beat Tamiya's decal belts, but theTD seats are really sweet!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:54 AM

I was pleasantly surprised to see how much the cockpit detail on the P-51D improved on the detail in the -B/C kit.  I have one in the stash that I'm going to build side-by-side with the old Revell pre-merger P-51D, which has nice detail, too.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:57 AM

Stikpusher, nice job on those cockpits!  You've popped the detail nicely.

I never got to build the jets, they came out just before I graduated from high school and gave up modeling.  I was still working through props at the time.  But I remember admiring the kits on the shelf at Kiddie City, the P-80, the F-86, and the MiG.  Those are on my long-term wish list.

 

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:35 PM

Thanks Baron. As much as I love WWII birds and the sound of their radials or inlines, I have more personal connection with the fast movers. My father crewed on Invaders with the 452nd BW after Korea and growing up one of my best freind's dad flew F-86s with the 67th FBS in Korea. My own service time saw lots of service near A-10s, A-4s, A-7s, Cobra's and other CAS types, plus quite a few one way trips with no landing via C-130, C-141, or UH-60... WWII stuff captures my imagination, but modern stuff captures my memoriesWink

Get those jets when you canWhistling

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:04 PM

I remember admiring the kits on the shelf at Kiddie City,  

[/quoteWow!  Haven`t heard the name "Kiddie City" for a long,long time...remember begging my parents to take me there when I was a kid in the `70`s..lol. Kiddie City used to be across the street from Bachmann Plastics on Erie ave, in Philly...now it`s a Rite Aid...Boo Hoo

Len Pytlewski

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