Panzerjager GB (March 1st - June 30th, 2011)

There seems to already be an interest. Should we shout it out to the world and move up the starting date or leave it to early October?

The French had airplanes? LOL

Nice list there Rob. That probably covers the majority. Add the Tamiya Char B and that munitions carrier. You could throw in some arty too such as the 88mm, 37mm, 25pdr, & 2pdr.

I only have 2 kits that would cover the list. Hmmmm, decisions, decisions.

Wow , this is getting better and more interesting !

Rob , good idea !

YOU DONT NEED NO STINKING RENAULT!

Probably safe to have a Battle of France GB that way there would be more options of vehicles that people would want to build.  If we allowed the  "Lend - Lease" vehicles we would have even more vehicles to chose from but we would lose all the early German armor and ALL the French armor   I like the early stuff myself, you do not see it as much.

BLITZKRIEG IN THE WEST sound like a GREAT name!

If you had the airforces involved, it sure would be nice to see some of those early French planes with there crazy shapes and red & yellow stripes.

Some armor that could be used and all of these kits are avaliable:

RPM - armored tractor LORRAINE 37L, SDKFZ 135, transporter LORRAINE, SDKFZ 135 ambulance, FT17 char canon, FT17 chemical tank

CMK - Pz 35

VULCAN - Vickers light tank MK VI B

MIRAGE - AMR-UE tankette, renault UE scout car, renault UE chassis SWG 40/28cm and the 40/32cm

HELLER - Somua S35, Renault R35 canon de 25

TRUMPETER - French 38H, French 39H

BRONCO - They have many variants of the H38/39, Cruiser I MKI - IV

TAMIYA - AMR UE tankette, Matilda II, Pz 35

TAMIYA or DRAGON (several other companies) - Panzerjager I, Pz Bef Wg I Kleiner, SIG 33 15cm Bison, Pz I Ausf A and B, Pz II Ausf A-C, Pz III Ausf C-E, Pz IV Ausf B-D, Pz 38, STUG Ausf A-B

There is always half-tracks too such as the SDKFZ 222, 231, 232YK.  

There are more kits then this but I got tierd of writing and looking.  All of these vehicles were involved in BLITZKRIEG IN THE WEST and the kits are easy to get.  This should give everyone plenty to chose from and if not one could always venture into the little know about second front invasion by the Italians.

Sorry did not get a list of the aircraft

Eric , i found this old Testors Pz.Kpfw.1B kit in my stash that should work . Now i dont need no Renault !

The kit markings are for a  Pz.Kpfw. IB of the 1st Panzer Battalion, 25th Panzer Regiment, 7th Panzer Division (commanded by Rommel), Western Somme (France) June 1940.

bobbaily

tigerman:

 

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Ok , so that limits it to French and German vehicles of 1940 .

 

 

Yes. My original idea of the Battle of France was 1940. I don't believe it's been done as of yet, so with all the new releases of Matilda's, Valentines, Char B's, and H35-39's, 15cm sIG 33 Bison, Pz II A/B/C's  it does open some doors.

 

...and airplanes....don't forget the airplanes!

Yes, we need targets.

Blitzkrieg in the West does sound more appealing then Phony War.

tigerman

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What about the late war liberation of France ? Thats when i the lend lease vehicles would have been used , right ?

 

Yes sir. I'm still thinking May 1940, the invasion of France proper. A nice Blitzkrieg in the West. Chomp chomp.

I really like what Eric said... 'Blitzkrieg in the West' GB.  It sounds more exciting than 'Battle of France'... little too dull.  That way it may attract more participants?  Of course wingy things were part of the Blitz... even ships too. 

bobbaily

 

tigerman:

 

 

Shellback:

 

Ok , so that limits it to French and German vehicles of 1940 .

 

 

Yes. My original idea of the Battle of France was 1940. I don't believe it's been done as of yet, so with all the new releases of Matilda's, Valentines, Char B's, and H35-39's, 15cm sIG 33 Bison, Pz II A/B/C's  it does open some doors.

 

 

...and airplanes....don't forget the airplanes!

Hmmm... wingy things too! I've been wanting to try my hand at one of those flying contraptions. Maybe, just maybe, if it's allowed.

tigerman

 

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Ok , so that limits it to French and German vehicles of 1940 .

 

 

Yes. My original idea of the Battle of France was 1940. I don't believe it's been done as of yet, so with all the new releases of Matilda's, Valentines, Char B's, and H35-39's, 15cm sIG 33 Bison, Pz II A/B/C's  it does open some doors.

...and airplanes....don't forget the airplanes!

Shellback

Ok , so that limits it to French and German vehicles of 1940 .

Yes. My original idea of the Battle of France was 1940. I don't believe it's been done as of yet, so with all the new releases of Matilda's, Valentines, Char B's, and H35-39's, 15cm sIG 33 Bison, Pz II A/B/C's  it does open some doors.

Ok , so that limits it to French and German vehicles of 1940 .

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What about the late war liberation of France ? Thats when i the lend lease vehicles would have been used , right ?

Yes sir. I'm still thinking May 1940, the invasion of France proper. A nice Blitzkrieg in the West. Chomp chomp.

What about the late war liberation of France ? Thats when i the lend lease vehicles would have been used , right ?

One could say "there wasn't enough time" to lend in a 6 week war. LOL

There are a lot of subjects, but i have no idea how many are in kit form. Heller I hear might be called "something else" , so I don't know what to make of them. Tamiya's Char B is golden from what I've read. Thanks to Rob's review, the Bronco H39 appears to be a nice kit, and Trumpeter? Seems like Trumpeter is Trumpeter.

It might be safe to say, instead of a French Armor GB, that we'd go Battle of France instead to qualify German and Brit armor.

After looking at the list  theres more than i thought would be available . I never thought about the lend lease vehicles , but that would be from 1944 onwords wouldnt it ?

deafpanzer

See if it works this time...

http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/4-France/French-Armor.htm 

Great website... thank you Eric!

Thanks Andy. I can copy and paste without problems from a PC, but every time I do it  from a MAC it doesn't highlight.

Hmmmmm French mademoiselles. I can where this is going......

See if it works this time...

http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/4-France/French-Armor.htm 

Great website... thank you Eric!

Oooohhhh. A Frenchie armor GB is starting to intrigue me, because I'm pretty green, which means lots of research. I think a Battle of France would open it up to more flavors per say. Oh, I'm getting ready to put the feelers out.

Carl, here's a little list of ideas.

http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/4-France/French-Armor.htm 

Is there something I'm doing wrong on posting links from a MAC? They never highlight.

Rob- Awesome!  Thanks for posting pictures of the figures.  We will work it out what we can build if they vote for France GB.  It will be fun as usual!

Carl- I am with you... not sure if French Armor GB works because of limited number of kits.  And some guys said they wanted to build those wingy things.  So better keep it open like Invasion of France GB or Battle of France GB, etc. 

Eric- I think we need to have balance in next GB by including German armors or my French tank crew will have nobody to surrender to except for those French ladies with berets...

Cute ? Why not i guess . One guy said on these forums that a armor model  looked 'deliciouse " . So cute is ok i think . But ugly to the bone is a better discription imo of the R35 . If we go for a French WW II armor build ( is that an oxymoron ?) how many kit options in 1/35th does that give us , 5 ?????

ANDY - I have the Heller kit also but have not opened it yet.  Have never worked on a Heller kit so dont know what to expect?

Also have 2 Tamiya B1 kits.  One of them will remain French but the other have plans to ty to scratch build and convert into a German 10.5cm FH 18/3 Auf GESCHUTZWAGEN B2.  This is what it looks like:

Also have the Tankette so I can build which ever everyone else does not.

Really enjoyed building that figure set, think you will enjoy it also.

TM - It's the Bronco kit.  The build went togther very good.  Have also built the Trumpeter  H39 Belehlapanzer and it had many bad problems.  Do not recommend any of the Trumpeter Hotchkiss / Renault kits because of all of the issues.  Really liked the Bronco kit and plan on getting more vareants from them.  Now the tracks for the Bronco kit were a real pain in the BUTT!!  They do work though with a lot of patience.  The instructions I believe do show all one color paint schemes which was very common on the real ones.  I painted mine from some references, it was a command vehicle (with all the card suits) at the fall of Dunkirk.  When you build it, expect a really good build until you get to the tracks then have lots of patience ready to get them togther.

CARL - I think it's cute (can one use that word with armor?)  The Somua was rated the best tank in the world in it's day.  The French just used poor tactics.

Ugly Carl, just plain ugly. KV II ugly.

The Somua was kind of the French equivilant of the Matilda: Slow, but thick armored.

A Frenchie armor GB?

Rob , good comparison pics . The R35 is so cute its ugly ..............or is it versa visa ????

Andy, you're a crack-up.

Rob, is that the Trumpy or Bronco H-39? I have the Bronco kit, but the painting instructions are confusing. I believe it said Olive Drab. The kit looks intimidating with those minute tracks and busy instructions.

PANZERWAFFE

The only Renault (R35) kits I know of is by Trumpter and Heller.  Dont know anything about either.  Here some pics of an R35.  Always liked these pictures, gives good comparison to other vehicles.

I'm leaning towards the S35 and paint it with this paint scheme.  Would use slightly different colors that have seen on other S35 but would use this pattern.  Just think this pattern is very different.

Only French tank I have built was the H39.

We still have to wait for the vote though

Lookie here... what kit are we seeing inside the storage box?  Oh, is that a Somua S35 tankie thing from Heller? 

Yep, it was one of few old kits I won via eBay few years ago.  But if Rob wants to build a S35, then I can do the B1 Bis.  That way we can kick those German butts!  We have plenty of choices...

Wait a minute... I see another potential in my stash!

Oh boy, I am leaning toward Invasion of France GB now...

The only Renault (R35) kits I know of is by Trumpter and Heller.  Dont know anything about either.  Here some pics of an R35.  Always liked these pictures, gives good comparison to other vehicles.

I'm leaning towards the S35 and paint it with this paint scheme.  Would use slightly different colors that have seen on other S35 but would use this pattern.  Just think this pattern is very different.

Only French tank I have built was the H39.

We still have to wait for the vote though

Shellback

This means i have to get a Renault ?????????

Or a Hotchkiss 38/39. I think I do have the option of a single color. Whew. Those hard edges are not my cup of tea. I think you could get away with a good brush, but I like acrylics and they don't paint as well with a brush IMO.

This means i have to get a Renault ?????????

deafpanzer

 

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tigerman:

Thank you Rob!

I think an early war GB would be just the antidote for these annoying tri-color jobs. However, I will let the masses vote and see where it goes.

 

 

I kinda like tri color camo ...........................

 

 

Who said there was no camo in early war?

Always loved those camo on French tanks... I think I am going to do one if this GB happens. 

Did I ever tell you that I have an authentic French WWII rifle?  Never fired but dropped twice. 

Chuckle..........

Okay, the Frenchies and the Brits had some funky camo schemes that seemed to have alluded my fried brain. Good options for those that might want to tackle them or single color panzergrey. (yah baby) 

deafpanzer

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tigerman:

Thank you Rob!

I think an early war GB would be just the antidote for these annoying tri-color jobs. However, I will let the masses vote and see where it goes.

 

I kinda like tri color camo ...........................

 

Who said there was no camo in early war?

Always loved those camo on French tanks... I think I am going to do one if this GB happens. 

Did I ever tell you that I have an authentic French WWII rifle?  Never fired but dropped twice. 

No you have not told me that . Sounds like the "dropped once" has a tragic story behind it Andy .