Panzerjager GB (March 1st - June 30th, 2011)

wing_nut

You are just kidding... right?

Hmmmmmm.... Maybe.....

You know I really love ya like a brother...

1. Tigerman-  Jagdpanther
2. Panzerwaffe-  Sturer Emil
   
3. Bufflehead- 
4. RMC_Birdunner-
   
5. Big Smitty-
6. Wing_nut-  Sturer Emil
   
7. Bobbaily- 
8. TigerEp1- 
9. Nachtflieger- Sturer Emil
   
10. Terry35-
    
11. Hinsky-
    
12. Dupes- (tiebreaker)
13. bbrowniii- Jagdpanther

The voting as it stands right now...hope everyone else chimes in soon, I need to get some parts headed this way. Heh.

You're letting Boyd in?  All of a sudden my build order has changed

That's for saying you hate me in my other thread.

Oh what the heck... you can say you hate me if you wanna.  You're just kidding.

You are just kidding... right?

All right......Boyd is here! Woo hoo!!!

Nate

Can I get another vote in?

Boyd, glad you could drop in and gladly accept your Hetzer.  I've got one tucked away in the stash for when 700 parts becomes too much of  a burden.

And the Sturer Emil takes the lead!

Current tally:

Bronco 35004 - 0
Tamiya 35285 Hetzer Mid - 0
Tamiya 35203 Jagdpanther Late - 2
Trumpeter 00350 Sturer Emil - 3
Trumpeter 00348 Dicker Max - 0

Would say the  Bronco Marder or the Sturer Emil.  My vote is the Sturer Emil.

tigerman

List of Participants and kits (scale is 1/35 unless noted):

1. Tigerman- Dragon Jagtiger Premium Ed. #6285
2. Panzerwaffe- Dragon Panzerjager I Smart Kit #6230
3. Bufflehead- Dragon Hetzer Early
4. RMC_Birdunner- Italeri Elefant
5. Big Smitty- Dragon Marder III H #6420
6. Wing_nut- Cyber Hobby StuG III G w/deep wading muffler #6229
7. Bobbaily- Dragon Jagdpanzer IV L/70 (V) Smart Kit #6397
8. TigerEp1- Dragon Elefant w/zimmerit
9. Nachtflieger- Tamiya Marder III
10. Terry35- Tamiya Marder III 1/48
11. Hinsky- Dragon Marder III M Befelsjager Smart Kit
12. Dupes- ??????

WOW!!! Some of my favorite-ist people are here!!!  OK, count me in: Tamiya 35285: Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer Mid Production. I'll be building it pretty much straight up - except with the addition of a metal barrel and, mayby, maybe, some MK Tracks...

Ho hooooooo! Neck and neck with four votes in!

Current tally:

Bronco 35004 - 0
Tamiya 35285 Hetzer Mid - 0
Tamiya 35203 Jagdpanther Late - 2
Trumpeter 00350 Sturer Emil - 2
Trumpeter 00348 Dicker Max - 0

EDIT - I reserve the right to choose in the event of a tie

Emil por moi.

And Nate starts the vote swinging in another direction!

Current tally:

Bronco 35004 - 0
Tamiya 35285 Hetzer Mid - 0
Tamiya 35203 Jagdpanther Late - 2
Trumpeter 00350 Sturer Emil - 1
Trumpeter 00348 Dicker Max - 0

Hmmmmm, it's a toss up between the Bronco Marder, and the Sturer Emil. My vote is the Emil.

Nate

Well shoot...the Jagdpanther votes are adding up fast!

Current tally:

Bronco 35004 - 0
Tamiya 35285 Hetzer Mid - 0
Tamiya 35203 Jagdpanther Late - 2
Trumpeter 00350 Sturer Emil - 0
Trumpeter 00348 Dicker Max - 0

Dupes

Notch two for the JP Late!

Current tally:

Bronco 35004 - 0
Tamiya 35285 Hetzer Mid - 0
Tamiya 35203 Jagdpanther Late - 1
Trumpeter 00350 Sturer Emil - 0
Trumpeter 00348 Dicker Max - 0

I hate to be boring, but I love Jagdpanthers and am a little surprised not to see one. So, it's got my vote.

I almost changed my build to the Tamiya jagdpanther, but I wanted to build a Dragon kit while I still had a little eyesight and mind left.

Excellent!

Alright, I went through the stash list to see what I've got kicking around that isn't a DML offering (way too many DMLs to count). There's actually a lot less than I thought, mostly due to me not realizing at first that this was GERMAN units only! I kept thinking about all the M-10's/Jacksons/Sov stuff I've got kicking around - heh.

As it appears that Marder IIIs in general, and the Tamiya Marder IIIs specifically, are already represented, I'm going to leave those off of the list of eligibles. So here's what's left over:

Bronco 35004 7.5cm PaK 40 Auf GW H38/39 - no aftermarket in stock
Tamiya 35285 Hetzer Mid - Fruil Hetzer Winterketten, JB Model Barrel, Bison Hungarian Markings
Tamiya 35203 Jagdpanther Late - Eduard Etch, old-style Fruils, MK Bosch Headlight, LR Cables
Trumpeter 00350 Sturer Emil - Lionmarc Resin Tracks (line on a RB Barrel, Voyager Etch)
Trumpeter 00348 Dicker Max - no aftermarket in stock

So I'm leaving it up to a vote - I'll build any of the above 5 you fellers are most interested in. If the Sturer Emil gets voted in, I'm going to snag the RB barrel for it, as well as the Voyager etch I've found for cheap (I suppose I should just buy them anyway...). The JP came with an old set of non-workable Friuls - i.e., no pins - so I'm not 100% those are going to happen - may replace with some Cyber Hobby DS tracks I've got kicking around if they turn into a major pain in the a**.

I guess my least motivated build right now (due to the lack of AM stuff) is the Dicker Max...and probably most fired up for either the Hetzer (Winterketten!) and Sturer Emil, although the other two are pretty intriguing as well.

Let me know! Sooner the better - I need to source some parts and start researching!

Hi Marc. I'd say both qualify, especially the Sturer Emil.

Even though the Dicker Max had a 105mm, this blurb states that Hitler ordered it as a Panzerjager.

http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1326

Question - is the Sturer Emil or Dicker Max appropriate for panzerjagers?

Good start already, fellas!

Well I have almost the entire lower portion finished, including filling and sanding. This kit is not a Smart Kit and the age does show in spots I suppose.

I'm going to look into Doog's method on the tracks. I will be leaving the top off until they are installed permanently. I'm a little nervous, but will give it the college try. 

Eric,

Good progress on the Jagdtiger. Have you decided how you will tackle building the tracks? On my Tamiya Jagdtiger, the roadwheels attach with polly caps. I built the entire running gear, and tracks on the vehicle. After they dried, I was able to remove the built track, and roadwheel assembly for painting.

Rob,

I've got that same kit in the stash, so I'll be watching with interest.

I was able to complete steps 1, and 2 today which involved gluing the 4 plates that make up the hull to the floor plate, and the leaf spring assemblies for the roadwheels. This one is almost building itself, it is so easy! A refreshing change after my last build!

I also glued the tracks together, and after they set up, decided they were not quite what I wanted, so I placed an order for a set of Friuls from Sprue Bros. They also had the new SdKfz 10 halftrack by Dragon which I ordered too!

Nate

Thanks Rob. I think they are pretty close, so close as not to really notice. The idler on the other hand, has no pin to place it, but the directions show in going 12-6 on a clock. I hope it works. LOL I haven't done anything to it yet, still filling the gap by the drivetrain.

BTW, wow that box is packed for something so tiny. I think my eyes would go blind on the tracks. Good luck, but at least I know you will be able to do it.

Here are a few shots of some sprue of the Panzerjager I.

Kit looks to be a very nice one and do not foresee any real proplems.  Everything looks as a typical Dragon Smart Kit.  Still have not made up my mind for sure of theater / color of the vehicle.  Need to decide so can start to work in that direction.  Also if it is to be in Africa need to put the proper engine deck doors on.  The kit comes with an option, parts D1 or H22 and parts H30 or H29.  Parts D1 and H30 are the standard flat hatch doors, the African version uses parts H22 and H29 these doors have added ventalation in them. 

Tigerman - Nice, first off the line.  The design of the torsion bar on these, the center of the shaft for the road wheel would be in line with the bottom of the hull. Here is the best picture could find of what trying to say.

A proplem experienced with these vehicles, they were over weight so in a very short time they would sqwat way down because of the weight which would make the road wheels ride high.  So you have a little leeway with position.  Think your location will work out fine.

tigerman

 

$17? That's a steal. I think I paid around $25 or so for mine. It is good bang for the buck. Have you built yours yet? If so, I might hit you up on some questions.

I have not built one yet.  Sorry.  As soon as I get caught up with the other GB's I will.  I haven't built any German armor yet.  Go big or go home right?

A couple of shots of my progress. Some nice pin holes and gaps.

A shot of the lower hull. Not sure the torsion bars are on right. They look a little low. Not very good pin indicators.

I also glued the gun cradle in, because I read the old Fine Scale with a review and John Plzak said to do it, otherwise the weight of the aluminum barrel will sag.

That's probably most of what I will get done today. Have to cook dinner and then the game will be on.

macattack80

I will have to keep an eye on your GB Tigerman.  I have a Jagdpanzer, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, and Nashorn in the stash.  I hope to get some buiding intel and some finishing ideas. 

I have the same Jagdtiger you are building.  I got 2 of them from Great Models for, get this, $17.00 each.  I don't know if it was mislabeled but I grabbed the last 2 they had in stock.  The kit detail looks great.  Not a bad deal with the aluminum barrel, PE fret and metal cable and ammo round.

I would love to join the GB but I have too many other GB commitments going right now. 

$17? That's a steal. I think I paid around $25 or so for mine. It is good bang for the buck. Have you built yours yet? If so, I might hit you up on some questions.

Eric-thanks for posting some of your previous builds-very nice work.  Makes me want to start on the Marder III M but I think I'll stick with my Jadgpanzer.

Sorry that you didn't get as much done as you would have liked but it will come together.  I'm hoping to finish up my Dora for the Reich Defenders III GB by Friday and then get started here on Saturday.

I will have to keep an eye on your GB Tigerman.  I have a Jagdpanzer, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, and Nashorn in the stash.  I hope to get some buiding intel and some finishing ideas. 

I have the same Jagdtiger you are building.  I got 2 of them from Great Models for, get this, $17.00 each.  I don't know if it was mislabeled but I grabbed the last 2 they had in stock.  The kit detail looks great.  Not a bad deal with the aluminum barrel, PE fret and metal cable and ammo round.

I would love to join the GB but I have too many other GB commitments going right now. 

I'm working on the torsion bars and the lower hull today. With the Blazer game on at 7:30, I don't think I'll get as much done as I'd like. Been a bit of a drama day already.