(A)SW GBII - CLOSING

Thanx Stik i love the s-58 family, will going asap for the 3rd version! (also mr sikorsky industry maded my favourite copter ,the mh-53E ) Following your great subs updates

I can call the Seabat finished for now, will add later some more pictures with the wessex hu5 and... when the buran and blizzard from the east will leave Italy will take some honest outdoor pictures actually two weeks without sun and the only weather avaible are cloud with wind or rain, or both mixed with lightings  

as i see after take pictures the right whell need some more retouch

Bsyamato: Excellent work, as always! Are you sure you don't have another model to contribute to this GB?

Here are a few pics. I finished the weld details on the saddle tanks, as well as the ribbing seen through the main drainage slot, and some other items representing the pressure hull on the coning tower etc that would block some light when looking through the drainage slots. I primed the port side saddle tanks- the weld seams come off too easily. Up next- pain the internal components, add the deck and then finish the rudder area.

Rob

Maxfax this IS a fine detailed work on the sub

nope ,as i remember nothing in stock but even i having something i'm too busy to put another kit here .The only way is i found some little sub soon with the next supply order ,but cannot confirm for sure

Following the great wips here

Good things ,this afternoon some hour of sun allow to snap some good pictures, here the sesabat with some hu5 support

some more here withouth filling the post too much 

Finished Seabat

Nice pair! But boy would I be worried about a gust of wind where you took those photos! Lets just say it happened to a couple of my builds in the past and resulted in some time lost due to ensuing repairs. But I did see that the basic respective aircraft designs had good lift

Is that the Mediterranean Sea in the background?

Today's workbench time was spent masking for Schiffbodenfarbe III Grau/Dunkelgrau that I hope to airbrush on tomorrow. Conditions should be good then.

stikpusher

Nice pair! But boy would I be worried about a gust of wind where you took those photos! Lets just say it happened to a couple of my builds in the past and resulted in some time lost due to ensuing repairs. But I did see that the basic respective aircraft designs had good lift

Is that the Mediterranean Sea in the background?

Thanx Stik

Yes he is mar Jonio section

I just can say that the pictures was taken to the 3rd floor (if some kit goes down no repairs are possible) and during last pictures, as the roror is not glued , the wind started blow a little and rotor being to rotate

Here is a view of the Pacific Ocean near my home. I have been riding my bike down there every other day for my cardio exercise program.

Todays progress on my U-Boats: Dunkelgrau/Bodenfarbe Grau airbrushed on.

Type VIIC

Type VIIA

and together... the contrast between the lighter grays shows a little better today.

So we are not so far  from the coast

Nice updates on subs.

I found lots of hobbyboss subs for less than 5€ for piece, someone knows about the quality of these kits? (having the arizona from same brand i was not so happy about the quality of the kit )

Stickpusher: What paints are you using for your subs? I have bought  Tamiya paints for mine, that I hope will would match closely the true naval colours, would have liked to use the WEM paints. If I took a picture of near my house right now, all you would see would be a never ending vista of snow....

Rob

BSY, theType VIIA is a Hobbyboss kit and is VERY nice. I think that the surface detail is better on the Revell Germany kit. But the Hobbyboss U-Boat comes with PE for the railing, net cutters, and conning tower deck as well as a few other fine details. They should not be passed up. Both have nicely molded deck guns.

Maxfax, I am mainly using the old discontinued Model Master Acryl Marine Colors. But I only have the Hellgrau 50 and Dunkelgrau II/Bodenfarbe III Grau for use here. I had to use the closest available FS match for the Dunkelgrau 51 in the Acryl line for that particular shade. I do wish that one of the LHS stocked WEM colors as I would buy them in a heartbeat. I just prefer to get my stuff at the LHS and support them rather than buy online whenever possible. Especially for paints. In the Tamiya line, XF-63 German Gray should match the dark gray color just right as that gray has the same RAL code as Panzer Gray. Though I dont know what mixture would work for the Hellgrau 50, perhaps XF-12 JN Gray, as that Hellgrau 50 is quite light. For the Dunkelgrau 51 it looks like XF-19 Sky Gray or XF-20 Medium Gray would possibly work. If you plan on doing some weathering such as salt water fading, rust, and marine growth on the hulls, base color fidelity can have some wiggle room.

We are supposed to get some snow in the local mountains today but not here by the ocean... just rain.

todays progress photos

Decks painted black. Polly Scale colors, Scale Black on the Type VIIC for a more worn appearance

and NATO Black on the Type VIIA for a newer appearance

side by side

and in direct sunlight where you can best see the tonal differences

Are really good Stik my preference will be on these german types if i get one the presence of PE parts will be a good excuse to challenge myself into photo etched parts as i'm not used to use them.

The great difference between indoor and outdoor tones is probably some wrong setting under artificial light

Nice work, Stik.

Bsyamato- I'm surprised you haven't delved into the PE sets. I almost routinely bought them, and have a crap load for the VIIc, but honestly, many of the parts are not that useful- sometimes the molded on detail is as good if not better. But you can't beat the PE grills.

i'm not used on PE because prefere to save money for other kits

Something i brought in the past, the tornado ladder from airwaves in early 90

I'm sure posted the same picture in thip gb but here my work, on the right the photo etched ladder for the tornado, on the left the scratched one for the starfighter ! both 1/72 (sorry for the dust )

At the time the PE ladder cost few less than the tornado kit LOL

Recently i found lots of eduard sets at a really low price ,will try something in future

bsyamato

Are really good Stik my preference will be on these German types if i get one the presence of PE parts will be a good excuse to challenge myself into photo etched parts as i'm not used to use them.

The great difference between indoor and outdoor tones is probably some wrong setting under artificial light

I usually take my indoor photos in a garage with the door open, with and without flash. So basically in sunlight shadow. 95% of my pics are done in this manner and no artificial light involved. I don't know how to adjust any color settings on the camera so I just have to run with what I get and play a bit on the computer photo program occasionally.

As far as PE on the subs goes, aside from the railings,  Revell did such a great job on their Type VIIC that you really don't need it. Even their plastic railings do not look bad at all. Better than what is on my Academy 1/350 Graf Spee. But all that aside, both Hobbyboss and Bronco (and probably AFV Club as well) include PE with their 1/350 U-Boats and the price, while more costly than the Revell U-Boat, is still pretty low including the PE. I did pick up a Revell Type VIID the other day though. Using lessons learned on these two, it should turn out better

stikpusher

 

bsyamato:

 

Are really good Stik my preference will be on these German types if i get one the presence of PE parts will be a good excuse to challenge myself into photo etched parts as i'm not used to use them.

The great difference between indoor and outdoor tones is probably some wrong setting under artificial light

 

 

I usually take my indoor photos in a garage with the door open, with and without flash. So basically in sunlight shadow. 95% of my pics are done in this manner and no artificial light involved. I don't know how to adjust any color settings on the camera so I just have to run with what I get and play a bit on the computer photo program occasionally.

As far as PE on the subs goes, aside from the railings,  Revell did such a great job on their Type VIIC that you really don't need it. Even their plastic railings do not look bad at all. Better than what is on my Academy 1/350 Graf Spee. But all that aside, both Hobbyboss and Bronco (and probably AFV Club as well) include PE with their 1/350 U-Boats and the price, while more costly than the Revell U-Boat, is still pretty low including the PE. I did pick up a Revell Type VIID the other day though. Using lessons learned on these two, it should turn out better

 

So i will try i ordered some supplyes ordered some needed color and... as my usual scraped some online store affair .. unimodel t-34/76 , oh-6 cayhuse and a leo-341 ..... all 72 scale and the hobbyboss IXb !!! unfortunately 1/700 scale

http://www.mblmodellismo.it/dettaglio_articolo.asp?id=14702

waiting for the effective avaibility and i can add here between a week.

PS the unimodel tank have photoetched parts as my su-85 had

i'm not usual with tanks but i liked the quality of these east productions little kits.

About pictures the wy is to try manual settings if need more accurate colors (i try myself but some fails have again )

Guys,

Just letting you all know that i am back home now. Pretty strong jetlag but im ok

Bsyamato: Congratulations on a beautiful model my friend. It makes me really really want that 1/48 chinook from revell.... Excellent work!!

Stik,

So good to see you working on some silent hunters! Looking great too by the way

Maxfax,

Wow, those welding lines must have taken you a LONG time.... it looks gorgeous! Great work buddy and keep it comin'

My own submarine is in the finishing stage. I hope to be posting an update on her in short notice my friends...

Richard

wellcome back Chief!! wishing to see soon the giant chinook. Ps put an eye on reviews ,could be the same mold are shared between italeri and revell (on 1/72 for sure)

Whow we near to the end of GB probably so i cannot add the little sub.

Bsyamato,

Thank you for the welcome

Just to let you and everyone who is reading along know: March 1 as stated on page one is the cutoff date for new participants. Those that are still building at that date will be allowed to finish their models for the GB at their own discretion. I know Vetteman has just started a model and maxfax will be busy for a while to from the look of it. You can't rush art

So theoretically, if you start a model on the last day of this month, my own rule would make me allow you to finish it. I have never been much of a policeman in my own GB's and i dont want to be.

Richard

AAAARGHH!!! i finished the gannet in at light speed ( really ?) to finish before 1st of march!!

LOL just jokin if the sub arrives before the date i'll put on

Hey Richard, 

Hope you had a great trip. Where in the US did you go? Originally from there? Your English is too good, so I would say yes!

Im just struggling with this sub. Got the deck on now, mainly just the superstructure to build, but I have a ton of PE parts to add. I estimate finishing maybe in June, or July, so I am glad you won't close this GB until I am done. I am mentally finished with this project, so it has been taking me longer than anticipated. I bought a HMCS Snowberry for Christmas to accompany the sub on my shelf, and I think that one will sit for quite awhile.

Bsyamato, nice work. The PE ladder is nice. I got one with a Royal Class FW 190 kit I bought last year on EBay. I used to be gung ho on PE, but I am starting to shy away from it- the time addition for me is becoming prohibitive- I need to get some kits done quickly to feel like I have at least finished something!

Rob

LOL buy a matchbox kit and build OOB Rob it will glue perfect and robust contruction .. but after finished you will return on the giant sub to search something more complicated !! 

sorry but received the mail from the vendor and my selected sub are not avaible  

maxfax

Hey Richard, 

Hope you had a great trip. Where in the US did you go? Originally from there? Your English is too good, so I would say yes!

Rob

Rob,

You are flattering me No i am not an american by birth, instead i am dutch. My wife however is an american so that did help with the lingo

I went to visit Washington state, Walla Walla area. I so love it there... My father in law owns a cabin up in the blue mountains, an outcrop of the rockies and it is just breathtaking upthere even though a snowstorm a few weeks ago did entirely cut us off for three days with no power, water or phone. They had to literally bulldoze their way up the mountain to get us out of there. It was crazy but fun at the same time

bsyamato

 sorry but received the mail from the vendor and my selected sub are not avaible

yamato, what sub were you looking for exactly? Maybe the shops i buy from online might have em so i could PM you with the link if i find it.

Richard

Thanx kermit, none particular.. i'm really low about submarine knowledge ( just able to identify russian yphoon class ). Just searching something good looking as germam ww2 u-boats ,not a particular type, to gain some experience.

Give at all some good european site if you have good ones

Bsyamato,

Two webshops that are bigger and carry alot of everything would be www.moduni.de and www.hannants.co.uk

Try searching with the word submarine and you should get some good results. I have also sent you a PM about the subject...

Richard

BSY try this site for some great info.

http://uboat.net/index.html

I am not overly well read on U-Boats either, but I have learned quite a bit since last year when I started building these little 1/350 U-Boats and doing online research on them. Two types are your primaries during the Battle of the Atlantic, theTypeVII and the Type IX. Other Types were involved but those were the most numrous with theType VIIC being the most widely built and fielded.

For good information on painting a U-boat check out this article.

http://www.artitec.nl/downloads/instructions/uboat/uboat_colours.pdf

Thanx for tips and links friends , unfortunately last delivery is already complete withouth the sub i chose

Don't think i can place more orders before one or two months if i'm not out of some primary colors.

Just following for now the GB 

Ah well.. perhaps an ASW III GB will happen

Today I began the weathering. Burnt umber pin washes over most of the hull and conning tower except for the decks. Then it was an overall wash of Burnt Umber.

Type VIIA

Type VIIC