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Blitzkrieg in the West (France 1940) Sept. 18 2011 - March 1 2012

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:04 AM

Everyone seems to be moving right along. I dropped a part on my plastic matt for my chair and couldn't find it. I'm puzzled, but will look tomorrow. This is a much bigger piece, so I hope to find it.

The skid was a bit of a bear and one of the little pieces from it I lost. I'm almost down to the tracks and then paint time. What? Me? Before anyone? Impossible you say? Angel

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:28 AM

Hmmmmmm , dont know Eric .Devil

The gaps are filled .Now onword !

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:31 AM

Great work guys!

Stikpusher: Whoops! Forgot that your Universal Carrier was French- guess I just think of the UK/Commonwealth  when I hear the term 'Universal Carrier'. Still she looks great, you guys really impress me with putting so much work in such small models.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:46 AM

You little devil Carl. Well, you have a big advantage on the tracks. That will be a full day job if I can get them to comply. 

Stik, forgot to mention that cool little UE. You are flying and will probably get to painting before I do. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:12 PM

What do you call losing a part from sanding, because it's so small it flies out of your hands? Fortunately, I found this one.

I also saved a Fubar on my part. i glued the main hatches in wrong and looked at it today and noticed. Would have sucked if I started painting.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:16 PM

tigerman

What do you call losing a part from sanding, because it's so small it flies out of your hands? Fortunately, I found this one.

I also saved a Fubar on my part. i glued the main hatches in wrong and looked at it today and noticed. Would have sucked if I started painting.

Sometimes those things called " instructions" can guide you along the correct path of construction Devil

Or were they still in the washer ? Whistling

I'd calllosing the part while sanding a !@%$#!!!

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Posted by panzerbob01 on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:18 PM

Shell..;

Hey! GREAT Straightening job on that warp-city!Toast  A very interesting approach and it appears to have worked just fine! Heavy Metal, indeed.

Now for some rather "serious" wet-blanketing!  The Panzer 1A / 1B upper hull was bolted down onto the lower and onto the fenders - NOT welded on.Whistling The little hooks on the hull sides were there to lift this off as needed. This bolted-on nature manifested in a distinct line (tiny gap) around the hull where it meets the fenders - GREAT pictures of this are to be found on www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/german-pzkpfw-1-2.asp , among other places. The rear deck had a cool angle-iron flange rivetted to its lower edge and bolted onto that fender (although there appear also to be other joins used, including one with welded rod-segments in or along that groove in the flange.... the common form appears to have been the angle iron w/ rivets to the hull and bolts to the fender). And the front sloped plate (glacis) with the hatch in it also had a non-weld fine line sharp groove at its join with the fenders.

You can easily fix all of these and make your Pz 1 pop right up by simply using your X-acto and cutting in appropriate fine grooves along the creases and joins! (you may have to do a little more - like adding on a bit of styrene sheet and something for rivets and bolt-heads - I use bits of stretched sprue - to fix those flanges). Sometimes gaps and seams are GOOD!Big Smile And, heck, after that masterful job on the warp... this-all gotta be hands-down park-walk stuff!Stick out tongue

Cheers!  BobWink

 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:38 PM

panzerbob01

Shell..;

Hey! GREAT Straightening job on that warp-city!Toast  A very interesting approach and it appears to have worked just fine! Heavy Metal, indeed.

Now for some rather "serious" wet-blanketing!  The Panzer 1A / 1B upper hull was bolted down onto the lower and onto the fenders - NOT welded on.Whistling The little hooks on the hull sides were there to lift this off as needed. This bolted-on nature manifested in a distinct line (tiny gap) around the hull where it meets the fenders - GREAT pictures of this are to be found on www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/german-pzkpfw-1-2.asp , among other places. The rear deck had a cool angle-iron flange rivetted to its lower edge and bolted onto that fender (although there appear also to be other joins used, including one with welded rod-segments in or along that groove in the flange.... the common form appears to have been the angle iron w/ rivets to the hull and bolts to the fender). And the front sloped plate (glacis) with the hatch in it also had a non-weld fine line sharp groove at its join with the fenders.

You can easily fix all of these and make your Pz 1 pop right up by simply using your X-acto and cutting in appropriate fine grooves along the creases and joins! (you may have to do a little more - like adding on a bit of styrene sheet and something for rivets and bolt-heads - I use bits of stretched sprue - to fix those flanges). Sometimes gaps and seams are GOOD!Big Smile And, heck, after that masterful job on the warp... this-all gotta be hands-down park-walk stuff!Stick out tongue

Cheers!  BobWink

 

"The gaps are filled" ...........Bang Head...............AArrgghh !!! Sad thing is i have some of the same pics saved for refference !Boo Hoo

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:40 PM

Shellback

 tigerman:

What do you call losing a part from sanding, because it's so small it flies out of your hands? Fortunately, I found this one.

I also saved a Fubar on my part. i glued the main hatches in wrong and looked at it today and noticed. Would have sucked if I started painting.

 

Sometimes those things called " instructions" can guide you along the correct path of construction Devil

Or were they still in the washer ? Whistling

I'd calllosing the part while sanding a !@%$#!!!

The instructions are a little eh at times. The box art doesn't even fully represent the model I'm building. I had to look at some museum pieces to check the location and seams on some parts.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:54 PM

Ok , just saying ........................Stick out tongue

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Posted by BaBill212 on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:12 PM

Hi Guys,,,  I have not posted in a few days,,,  been on a mercy mission for a friend.

Anyhow, I backtracked and have seen some great stuff,,,   I would feel bad if I started naming everything and forgot someone,,    suffice to say, you are (all) very impressive...  and thanks for the many tips, solutions and ideas.

I promised some progress pics,,,,     not much to speak of,      but, it's a start -

Pz I Command Tank

After instruction and parts reconnoiter , I got off on an inauspicious start....   There were some small, but noticeable gaps between the rear shaft housings and the inside lower back portion of the superstructure (unusual for a quality Dragon kit). A bit of liquid cement actually blended quite well.

 

A quick 4-set of road wheels and suspension   (maybe not as quick as implied....)

 

Another small concern,, the drive sprockets had "inside" sink holes.     Possible that they would not be noticed, but I am going to fill, sand and blend.

 

The first two PE items cleaned up pretty well,,,,  although a bit of a pita to glue into place,,,  nothing over the top though.

The port side fit very well...    however the starboard side had a bit of a gap at the tri-bend rear sector.

I filled with some zap and called it passable....  after painting I think it will be mostly unnoticed....

I will have to sand and perhaps fill it a bit more, but it should be ok.

I hope to finish up the suspension this week and move on from there.....  I have a nice diorama in mind.   I just have to make up my mind on how to make it happen.....   a work in progress somewhat...

I know this post is not that exciting, but I am starting to get the groove going with this petite Pz....    which is fun!

 

Hope you like and all comments welcome.......

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:23 PM

Excellent work as always Bill. Cool

Well, I'm happy. I found my missing piece. Not where I thought it went, but it paid to wait until morning. It turned out that little piece was part of the skid and a bar connected it to the the hull. I might have been able to scratch it, but this is easier. Smile Hope to have some updated pics tomorrow.

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 Eric 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:33 PM

Eric,,,    thanks !       

And, nice find on the MIA piece....    when I come across one of those missing little SOB's,,, it always seems like, sort of, an accomplishment...   or relief.      Always good when you don't have to scratch...  especially if you have to scratch to match.......

 

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:46 PM

Good start Bill .

Eric , good that you found the part .

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:23 AM

tigerman

Stik, forgot to mention that cool little UE. You are flying and will probably get to painting before I do. 

Yes,I an begin painting tomorrowWink You cant beat Tamiya in Armor for smoothness in assembly.

Today I built the trailer for the UE. Very different for a trailer to be tracked, but cool to see as well. Makes sense to lower ground pressure that way and increase its' mobility.

I also assembled the accessory POL drums and ammo crates

Here is the Carrier with trailer attached...

and with trailer and  a load...

Tomorrow I think I will apply a base coat of French Khaki Green.Wink

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:48 AM

Looks good Stik Yes

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:55 AM

Thanks ShellbackWink This is a great little kit to recharge my armor mojo. No modifications needed, a well engineered, easy building, great fitting kit. I hope the finish goes as smoothly.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:59 AM

Like you said Tamiya engineers some nice kits . What do you use as far as paints , enamel or acrylics?

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:04 AM

I use both. All depends on what I have on hand for what I am doing. In this case the base color will be enamel, because that is what I have for French Khaki Green. But the new method I will try for painting the running gear will start with an acrylic, because the Raw Umber I have is acrylic.Geeked

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:21 AM

Those are some unsightly pin-marks in the trailer, but at least they'll be covered by the stowage.

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 Eric 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:43 AM

Stik, really nice looking an interesting.  Pin marks yes but looks like they were easy to get to and fill.  Do you often assemble the tracks on before painting?

Rob

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:52 AM

Great work guys!

Stikpusher: Love the trailer, looks very cool with the treads on it.

Eric: I've found that if you want to find a missing part to scratchbuild a replacement. Once you've went though all the work to scratchbuild the part and glue it to the model the original part will always show up.

 

First camo coat is on the Char B1 and pre-shaded. Will take photos tonight and start gooping on the silly putty to mask for the second camo coat.

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:37 AM

Nice work Stik. That is a sweet lookin' little kit. You are right about Tamiya - good source to get the old modeling mojo going again.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Vit13 on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:38 AM

Good job Stick.

i like this little UE.

 

Jc

 

 

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:17 PM

Gee Cliff, you must be cruising along. You got a late start because of your other GB. Amazing.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:43 PM

tigerman

Gee Cliff, you must be cruising along. You got a late start because of your other GB. Amazing.

Well, I have to agree with Stikpusher here, as a recent Tamiya kit it's so well engineered that it pretty much falls together. Other than removing the injection pin marks on the threads (which are located to make them very easy to sand) and putting together all the teeny road wheels the kit was a snap to assemble. Other than adding a little texture to the turret I built the whole thing right outta-the-box. I'd strongly recommend this kit to anyone that wants something a little different from 'Germans and Shermans'.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:00 PM

Gamera

 tigerman:

Gee Cliff, you must be cruising along. You got a late start because of your other GB. Amazing.

 

Well, I have to agree with Stikpusher here, as a recent Tamiya kit it's so well engineered that it pretty much falls together. Other than removing the injection pin marks on the threads (which are located to make them very easy to sand) and putting together all the teeny road wheels the kit was a snap to assemble. Other than adding a little texture to the turret I built the whole thing right outta-the-box. I'd strongly recommend this kit to anyone that wants something a little different from 'Germans and Shermans'.

I agree with you Cliff (Gamera) . I'm looking at how much time i've spent dealing with the problems of this Italeri kit . I was looking at the DML Pz. 1 and thinking i should have gone with their kit instead . Oh well , now its a matter of priciple !I'm going to beat this little glob of gray plastic or , or .................. Angry

 

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:05 PM

You know Carl, I still love those little Italeri kits. I hosted a successful Italeri GB some years ago. It was the first time that many built one. It was mucho fun. I built as many as Tamiya back in the 70's, but then they were a bigger player then they are now.

Here's a few updates. I've left off some of the microscopic fiddly-bits until I get the tracks installed.  I don't want to Fubar again like I did the turret cupola. Embarrassed

 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:25 PM

Eric,,  I agree, I cut some teeth on some of those old Italeri kits and have built quite a few over the years.    Nice work on the H 39 too,, looking good

Carl,,   thanks and hang in there with that Italeri,,, no doubt it will turn out great

Stik,,   I am really liking that carrier,, and the trailer too.  Great subject for sure (true,, Tamiya is tough to beat for simplicity and fit)

Cliff,,   will be looking for your Char B1 pics,,  sounds like you are moving along quite well

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:33 PM

Skit- Your tiny people mover is looking real great especially the trailer and stowage! Yes  I'd hate to be caught inside that because it doesn't look that easy to get out quickly. 

Eric- Great process so far!  I have to agree about missing parts showing up especially when you are in process of scatchbuilding a replacement.  Just like you I would just take a break and come back next day and I'd find it right away. 

Andy

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