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Blitzkrieg in the West (France 1940) Sept. 18 2011 - March 1 2012

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:24 AM

Wow, just stunning Carl! Your little panzer turned out so well. Definitely one to be proud of. Beer

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by malone duke on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:44 PM
Great job shell. Your pz sure is rad! You've set a standard I have to try and meet up to.

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:30 PM

Wow shell that is really outstanding.

Tread, thanks for the info onthe vehicle numbers and the double check on the ones I'm looking at .  I found back end pics of boith of them and the muffler tips point in the one direction not mentioned... straight back.  Surprise

Marc  

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:13 PM

Its finished . Thanks for all of the help guys .Yes

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:45 PM

Thanks tread, appreciate the comments! It's taken me a month just to get through the major construction phases on this kit and I haven't even started on the tracks yet! Big Smile

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:24 PM

Treadplate ............... here i was just making up a little funny story but it turns out you actually  did this ?

Fiction is fact  / fact is fiction .Yes

Details on the turret are something else ...............i would expect nothing less from you corntread .Beer

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:05 PM

tread @ Marc...narrow fenders or wide fenders are very important.... narrow fenders were used through char # 398.... then they changed to wide....all you need to know is what number your char has... as far as the exhaust,  in my reference, they have them pointed up ,down ,in but not towards the outside...you gotta check the exact char ... I will bet they were held on with a muffler clamp and crews altered theirs to be unique....hey I just looked up your 2 chars in my ref ... both have narrow fenders....you are good.... Charente # 338 and Fleurie # 350 both narrow fenders

treadCool

 

   

 

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:42 PM

 

http://www.bpmodels.net/Model/PzIVC/Step29.JPG

Next up will be painting all the various turret/hull interior spaces before assembling the turret.

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What an excellent picture , Bill....intricate in every way....love the commanders gun sight ( or range finder? )

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:36 PM

Hiya tread.  Yeah... I am gonna go green too.  If Tamiya and you say it's OK that's good enough for me.

 

I will be doing either Charente or Fleurie as seen in the picture in my last post.  Not sure if they take the narrow or wide fenders.  I've got the narrow PE ones and will go with that regardless.The Archer sheet mentioned is just a generic lettering sheet of white letters in different sizes.  There is a set the will works real well for this.

And now more questions.  Is there a standard mounting of the flared tips for the exhaust?  I think the Tamiya sheet has them pointing down.  The drawing I have on the previous page has them pointing up and most of the pics I see online have'em facing "in".  I am so confused. Tongue Tied

Marc  

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:00 PM

tread @ Marc..... 

hey buddy... you pose an interesting question on color.... I am going with green on mine... I can tell you B1 bis were primed with red oxide.. so maybe some should be showing?....anyhoo for me I am going with green as the main color what char are you building ? Lyon or Tunsie.... my guess as those are the 2 Archer offerings....both need to have the narrow fenders.

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:50 PM

Hi Kveldulfr : ) nice start  and welcome to the group build !Toast

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:28 PM

hey Shell  :  )

this is from a long time ago  and I left out all the pics, but if you read it , you may get a laugh out of it.....it was while I was working on my T-34.... Machine shop work not so far fetched now !   LOL  ... hope your starboard gun come out the correct length!

hey you guys--Big Smile <img src=" /> I have managed to finish the turret interior--I am getting close to being finished!-- the first few shots are the s-53 85mm gun-- the next shots are of the gunners 'jump seat' which I scratched from evergreen plastic,balsa wood, and pieces of leftover P.E. that I transmogrified-- lol-- the rest is pretty self explanitory,a few details added, the munitions racks (pain in my butt!!Sigh [sigh])ect-- then the turret interior from various angles--even one 'artsy one' with the drivers' seat area illuminated-- one area to note, I have used an aluminum barrel from Jadar models in Poland-- the barrel is real nice with rifleing etc, but the reality is, it is so big and heavy(compared to styrene) that when installed it actually tips the turret forward!--- my solution was to give it to my son-in-law,Bill, who works at Precision Aerospace in Seymour CT. the barrel was align bored on a lathe its' full length to lighten it up-- seems pretty good now!-- my next few steps will be to pick a political slogan for the turret sides,paint them on and finish up weathering the outside of the tank-- thanks always for looking, please, any comments welcome-- thanks guys--- treadCool [8D]

 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:28 PM

Kveldulfr .... I'm surprised at the gap , i figured Italeri was the only kits with that type of flaw .

Wingnut .......thanks for your comment .Yes Might get it done today , late .

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:50 AM

Speaking of the puzzle camo...

The French were knid enough to have ahd very simple unit marking making it easy to depict vehicles that are not on the Tamiya sheet.  I will be doing one of the follow vehicles and it should be an easy task to mask that turret marking to AB.  Of course now that I have said that it will be way harder than it appearsStick out tongue  I have a sheet of white dry transfer lettering from Archer for the name. 

 

This image is used for discussion purposes only.

Marc  

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:37 AM

 

Kveldulfr...nice start

Shell.... well let's keep it simple...WOW!.  Real nice.  Tough to make a single color look interesting but brother you nailed it.

 

A Bi bis question.... I am going to be doing one of the 3 color puzzle pattern schemes.  What is the base color? You know, for all the under fender like areas that don;t have camo applied.  The Tamiya website has you paint those areas green.  Is that correct?

Marc  

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Posted by Kveldulfr on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:46 AM

At last I can post an update.

First: very good works in the group and FAST, I´ll need to work a few more hours to catch on you.

I allways made german armour, but after seeing the chars I´ll  want to model some.

Not much to show, but here are my progress

I glued the hull, there is a nasty gap at the front, but is in the bottom, so I´ll glue a piece of sprue in the inside and fill the gap with epoxy putty.

Another gap is in the back...

Another poor fit was in the front of the hull, so I has cuted the piece in two for a better fit. (and do a lot of filing and sanding)

I´m working now in the wheels and the suspension, a lot of sanding too... and after the test fit of the upper hull, I has decided to make if from scratch.

That´s all for now (I'm working really slow, but I will finish it before december, there is a contest and want to bring it there)

Have fun!

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 24, 2011 10:15 PM

Hey Eric , Bill and Tread thanks for the comments .Yes i'm working on the two small headlights and the muffler now , when their done the Pz.1 will be finished . Hopefully the turret will be back soon .

Treadplate , the turret is in the machine shop getting the starboard barrel machined shorter ................might take a few more days of lathe work .......................Wink

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Posted by treadwell on Monday, October 24, 2011 5:17 PM

Shellback

I'm getting closer to finishing this one . Mounted the spare tracks , some tools on the fenders and more weathering .

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/Blitzgieg%20France/S6300034.jpg

gol dern dag nabbit would you just do me a favor,through us all a bone and put the freekin turret on ?..... 

great work Shell Beer... for me personally, my favorite of everything I have seen you build..Toast.... no kiddin corndog....you da man... put the turret on !

 

   

 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Monday, October 24, 2011 1:40 PM

I agree Eric

Carl,,   you have taken that kit to a new level.......     great work!

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, October 24, 2011 9:33 AM

Man that looks great Carl. Never would know it's Italeri.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 24, 2011 8:37 AM

Great work all around guys! Beer

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, October 24, 2011 2:21 AM

I'm getting closer to finishing this one . Mounted the spare tracks , some tools on the fenders and more weathering .

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Posted by treadwell on Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:36 PM

tread @ Bill

looking forward to your pics of your pz I !.... hope you had a nice weekend also, and nite nite... work for me too... 5:30 rolls around very early!

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by treadwell on Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:06 PM

Heya Terry my bro'Toast

glad to see you are getting some pics up !

Shes lookin' good manToast ... a small adjustment to the drivers turret and all will be well ! ( the screws need to be recessed into the turret)

you did a great job on the casting numbers Yes they look really good

yer ole pal, 

treadCool

 

   

 

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Posted by BaBill212 on Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:23 PM

Great Posts guys,,,,,,   awesome

Castel,,   the Krupp is sweet.   Like the figures along with the truck,,,,     nicely done!

Tread,,    your details are fanastic,,,,  super work.   And, thanks for the Acrher link too......

wBill,,    good gawd man,     you do fine-tune your posts,,,  your attention to the finer points is great.   A true guide to the build.     Always a great read and impressive work.

Terry,,   I think your cast numbers look brilliant,, along with the screws and exhaust texturing,,,  smashing

 

I've been having some fun with the pz I command interior (Verlinden set)...    the overall fit is not great, but not too bad.   I would rate it around a 5.5 out of 10.       Even with the flaws, I still am finding it fun.   I will try to get some pics up soon.

Back to WORK tomorrow,,,  hope you all had a nice weekend.

Bill

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:32 PM

Thanks tread.  That pointed me to  AR88007 which is a nice sheet with tons of generic casting stuff.

Marc  

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Posted by treadwell on Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:40 PM

tread @ Marc      http://www.archertransfers.com/AR88027.html

 this is the link to the casting numbers I am using  ..it is for 1/16 Tiger II , but numbers is numbers and I happened to have one extra set  they are plenty small, but real nice 3D relief... hope they help!

treadCool

   

 

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:33 PM

Sweet Terry.

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:20 AM

Terry,

Nice progress on your Char! No worries about pressure on my end...I'm enjoying the build...my skills and approach are much different from what they were in 2006 when the E build took place. There isn't a wole lot different between the CH Ausf B and the DML Ausf C kits...most of the sprues are the same with just some very small differences since the same was true of the actual variants. I also have the D "super kit" in the stash that eventually will be made into a DAK vehicle at some point in the future...so this "reminder" of the intricacies of the Super Kit IVs hasn't put me off that idea either. Wink  

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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:00 AM

Wel lit's time for my own update now. While I have reference I must admit I got tired pretty quick and found cross referencing became laborious pretty quick as well. The kit is a beauty as Marc, Gamera and Bill Carls can testify.

i'm now at a comfortable stage where I am at last really enjoying this build as I keep in touch with Bill Carls on Facebook and I have to give him credit as I'm using Bill's excellent detailing work as reference for my own attempt.

I spent last sunday going through old sprues in the spares box looking for small numbers of all things to slice off and use as casting numbers..... the lesson for me is buy a set of Archer numbers.

I made my own casting effect from Humbrol filler 25% and Liquid ploy 75% stippled on.

Well on with my update.

Those pesky sprue numbers.

The screws are Rolex parts and still look too big, might need to source something else. A work colleague of mine sourced the screws for the T34 project some years ago, I can tell you that several thousand of these will not take up too much space and a sneeze could send them to oblivion.

I just textured the exhausts,

The build so far, those mudguards are not correct I will be using the smaller ones for mine.

 

 

Thanks for looking,

Terry.

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