Doogs, nice work there,

the ends of those blast tubes look accurately polished.

Did you use two piece or single piece(i.e. 'angle iron' styrene) for the back stops?

Tx

Thanks for all the comments! This build has been fun, but I can't wait to tear into that Tamiya kit! Academy has done a commendable job, I have had no fit issues and it has pretty much just fallen together.

Doogs-Excellent work on those blast tubes. Looks like you are making the most of that Revellogram! I may have to build one of these as well! The "Josephine my flying machine" RAF camo colors have been calling my name....

Great fun building with you gents.

Bockscar

Doogs, nice work there,

the ends of those blast tubes look accurately polished.

Did you use two piece or single piece(i.e. 'angle iron' styrene) for the back stops?

Tx

Thanks! It's single "angle iron" style styrene. Makes it fast and easy. Mark the distances, spear the styrene with my trusty old airbrush needle, hold against plastic, apply Tenax, and done!

And...the Jugs have moved into main assembly:

The Revell's going well, but I ran into an issue with the stabilizers. They fit tight, but misaligned. Grr. 

I'm going to hit the starboard stabilizer again tonight and see about taping it up. Hopefully it'll realign.

The Tamiya's going amazingly well. Didn't have to run glue along the top of the wingroot seam, just front and bottom.

Also prepping the cowls for paint. Came across this little trick when I build my Tamiya bubbletop last year. Set the cowl down on some cardboard. Trace opening. Cut a bit wider than the opening, insert and tape. The cardboard protects the yellow chromate and bare metal on the inside, but makes it easy to get that cowl lip.

More as I get to it!

Hi there,

Is it too late to get in on this one?  I sent a PM to you Doogs but haven't heard back so wanted to dbl check!

Thanks

Mike

eptingmike

Hi there,

Is it too late to get in on this one?  I sent a PM to you Doogs but haven't heard back so wanted to dbl check!

Thanks

Mike

Not too late at all! This GB's running til the end of the year, so you've got plenty of time!

And apologies for not getting back to your PM - have had very limited computer access over the past day or so! I'll get you added to the front page sometime today.

I finished the Cockpit today for my 1/32 Hasegawa P-47 "Jabo". I used the Eduard "Zoom" set on it and Vallejo "Bronze Green". Kristal clear for the instruement "glass" Thanks for looking!

stal

Looks great Tom! What an improvement over stock. Seat belts are very nice as well.

That pit looks excellent! I've been pondering going big for my next Jug (probably the Trumpy -N), and I think this has just convinced me.

Can't wait to see the rest of it come together!

Mike: Welcome to the party!

Panzer: Ohhhh, very cool! I love all that extra detail you can add in 1/32nd- that looks like a million bucks.

Absolutely gorgeous cockpit Tom!

Thanks guys! It has been an enjoyable build so far. Going all in with the Alclad. Gonna try a few panel contrasts on that, etc.

Thanks for getting back to me!  I can't wait to really dive into this build!!

Hi Guys,

Is it ok to lurk in the background and ask the odd question, I've started a P-47 but I'm a little past the hull cemeted together stage or I would ask to join.

Hey guys, I have a day off tomorrow up in NYC and am going to take the train to Farmington and see the American Air Power Museum.  Anyone in the NY area want to go?

Satch

Well, I got the fuselage put together. She's a monster. 11 inches long, without the cowl! I know,.. the bench is a mess! Have you seen my hobby knife? It's there somewhere? What else do you see?

wow ! huge !!

your bench is cleaner than mine.. maybe u have my lost scissors ?? !!

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Thanks guys! It has been an enjoyable build so far. Going all in with the Alclad. Gonna try a few panel contrasts on that, etc.

 I'm in with you there Tom. I'm also going to use Alclad for my first try at an NMF on this here Jug along with some contrasting panels. Certailnly looking forward to see how yours turns out.

 Work on my cockpit is procceding slowly but surely. Some detailing and a couple of PE pieces and I should have it ready shortly.

                                                                        Joe

Tom: Like you could lose something that large

Slow progress here, everytime I fill and sand I find some other rough spot. And have been trying to finish off a 1/48th Zero, when I finish that hopefully I'll have more jug time.

P-38: Those are your scissors? I wondered where they came from! Joe: Yeah, I did NMF, for the first time on a lower wing section of my Dora a few months back. It was great. I used Alclads grey primier and duraluminum. It comes out to a weathered look, which will be great for a forward based P-47. As advertised, it does amplify any rough surfaces, surface impurities, etc. Which leads me to Gamera: Yeah, man. I have been sanding away with micromesh and fixing a few "oops" (my trademark glued fingerprint. grrr). I just want to make sure I have as few sprue cut marks, etc. Also, with the eduard self adhesive zoom, there is an interesting phenomenon. The parts don't jump off of your bench when you cut them because they stick to the backing! (Not as much crawling around on the floor, in other words)

Incidentally, I saw an amazing 1/32 Jug a guy built and posted. (I will have to look again fro the link). It was a Trumpeter Razorback, he NMF'd. I thought about doing what he did. He primed it with floquil "old silver" and overcoated with Alclad Aluminum. Panel lines were done in dark grey pastel. I don't think I'll use pastels because I want to get away from having to seal the NMF. However, I think a duraluminum base, with aluminum lightly over that will look nice. Perhaps a few panels done shiney, as if they have been field replaced due to small arms fire, etc.

Here is what I am working on:

panzerpilot

Incidentally, I saw an amazing 1/32 Jug a guy built and posted. (I will have to look again fro the link). It was a Trumpeter Razorback, he NMF'd. I thought about doing what he did. He primed it with floquil "old silver" and overcoated with Alclad Aluminum. Panel lines were done in dark grey pastel. I don't think I'll use pastels because I want to get away from having to seal the NMF. However, I think a duraluminum base, with aluminum lightly over that will look nice. Perhaps a few panels done shiney, as if they have been field replaced due to small arms fire, etc.

panzerpilot - I've seen Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver used as a primer for Alclad as well. Same idea as the Floquil I'd imagine.

For breaking up the Alclad, have you seen the P-51 I did a few months back? Used Airframe Aluminum over a black base, then Aluminum and Duraluminum over that, sticking to panel centers but avoiding panel lines. Since the AA is high shine and thus semi-translucent, the black undercoat makes it darker than the regular finishes - instant shading!

Hi Doogs. Thanks. Yeah, I remember seeing that one when you got done. Very nice! I like that technique. It may be easier for me than a sludge wash, since I need more practice with that. I did get some panel wash from florymodels. I have black and dark brown, though I am not sure either will work with NM too well. Incidentally, I had some leftover XF-4 in my paint cup, working on "jabo" today. I put it to use on my Tamiya 1/48 P-47M, so it looks like I may have a double build going now?

panzerpilot

Hi Doogs. Thanks. Yeah, I remember seeing that one when you got done. Very nice! I like that technique. It may be easier for me than a sludge wash, since I need more practice with that. I did get some panel wash from florymodels. I have black and dark brown, though I am not sure either will work with NM too well.

The flory washes work brilliantly on NMF. Better, I think, than other methods since they're clay-based and wipe off with water. So you're not putting anything solvent-based on top. I used Promodeller/Flory dark dirt on that Mustang, save on the blue cowl, which made the dark dirt look like **** brown. So I used black there.

Incidentally, I had some leftover XF-4 in my paint cup, working on "jabo" today. I put it to use on my Tamiya 1/48 P-47M, so it looks like I may have a double build going now?

Like! You going to be doing one of the blue/blue camo birds?

Thanks. I'll be using Flory then. That looks really good. I am thinking of skipping preshade.

I am going to be doing a "blue camo" bird. Good guess! It is going to be between one of top two below, "lookin for trouble" and "Jane" (Aeromaster). I haven't decided yet. As well as "Josephine/My flying machine" (Zotz), later on.

Tom: Very nice, I love cheesecake on any aircraft!

Cliff

panzerpilot

Thanks. I'll be using Flory then. That looks really good. I am thinking of skipping preshade.

I am going to be doing a "blue camo" bird. Good guess! It is going to be between one of top two below, "lookin for trouble" and "Jane" (Aeromaster). I haven't decided yet. As well as "Josephine/My flying machine" (Zotz), later on.

 

Nice! Satch and I were actually having some back and forth awhile back about the existence of filletless P-47Ms (I've got markings for Col. Schilling's LM-S -M, which was the 56th's first, and filletless. Now with "Jane" there are two I know of!

From what I've read, the earlier P47-M's didn't have the fillet. I, too, have only seen a few examples. The fillets were apparently sent out later on, for field mod. (BTW, the purpose of fillets was to utilize the spiraling slipstream coming from the prop, ie neturalizing it somewhat, ... and to provide for a little more directional stability)

Incidentally, the 1/32 kit I am building now has an M prop and the fillet. (Just not the right magneto, accessory drive for the P-47M engine, for those of us who split hairs over such things) It's the P-47 kit with Gabreski's plane on the box.

Another interesting note about the M, is that many of the guys who flew them, in the 56thFG, were Jug holdouts. They basically refused to allow themselves to go to P-51's. Also, in the 56th, the jugs were painted with whatever they had in stock or could "find". The brits had a lot more paint stock, so the blue's, greens, etc. are british based.

panzerpilot

From what I've read, the earlier P47-M's didn't have the fillet. I, too, have only seen a few examples. The fillets were apparently sent out later on, for field mod. (BTW, the purpose of fillets was to utilize the spiraling slipstream coming from the prop and to provide for a little more directional stability)

Incidentally, the 1/32 kit I am building now has an M prop and the fillet. (Just not the right magneto, accessory drive for the P-47M engine, for those of us who split hairs over such things) It's the P-47 kit with Gabreski's plane on the box.

Another interesting note about the M, is that many of the guys who flew them, in the 56thFG, were Jug holdouts. They basically refused to allow themselves to go to P-51's. Also, in the 56th, the jugs were painted with whatever they had in stock or could "find". The brits had a lot more paint stock, so the blue's, greens, etc. are british based.

Yeah, Schilling (who took over as CO after Zemke) was the one who put his foot down and refused to give up the P-47 for the P-51. All in all it's probably my favorite squadron of the war. Zemke, Gabby, Schilling, Bob Johnson, Jugs, leading ETO fighter group in kills, only FG to fly the P-47M, distinctive camo schemes...so much that's so fascinating about their run.

Mine too. The "wolfpack". A bunch of hard hitting rebels. It's a shame Zemke was downed due to the elements. Apparently, he flew into a front, near or into a thunderstorm, and broke up. However, once he got to the Stalag he saved a lot of lives by putting his foot down and convincing the German's to take better care of his fellow POW's (8000 of them under his command). Thereby, saving a lot of lives. A true hero...

One thing about Gabreski. He got to where he let his wingmen take the kills. True modesty.

Gamera

Tom: Very nice, I love cheesecake on any aircraft!

Cliff

 

Yeah, Cliff. Those guys sure knew how to decorate their planes!