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Big Beautiful Jugs - OFFICIAL P-47 GROUP BUILD

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  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Monday, February 6, 2012 2:44 PM

thanks everyone! but who knows, i may whip out tams 1/48 47M when im done with both. 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, February 6, 2012 11:08 PM

ALL - Check this out. Amazing (and online) reference for P-47 markings!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/72607878/Republic-P-47-Thunderbolt-Camouflage-Markings

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:12 AM

More progress last night, but not as much as I'd wanted. Needed to push the stabilizer ID bands further out, so no painting until they're dry enough to mask (tonight). Instead I finished masking the Revellogram's canopy, shot the undercoat of black, painted some bombs white ahead of yellow (for stripes), that kind of fun stuff.

I also unmasked the Tamiya's canopy. It's natural metal while the fuselage is OD, so no need to save it for further weathering or anything:

And I'm trying that streaking pre-shadey stuff on the Revellogram. This is just the first, some flat black. Planning to come back with greys and browns for the underside and dark greens and browns up top. We'll see...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    January 2012
  • From: Kentucky
Posted by Von Sisco on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:54 PM

I'm really looking forward to seeing how this turns out for you Doogs, it seems like a rather neat idea.  By the way, what did you use for primer on the Revellogram? Keep up the great work!

Ed Sisco

On the bench: 1/48 Hobby Boss F3H-2 Demon & 1/48 Trumpeter F9F-2 Panther

On deck: 1/48 Grand Phoenix FJ-4 Fury double build

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:07 PM

I believe he uses Mr.Surfacer. 

i use Mr.Surfacer as well. glass smooth when hit with two thousand grit. 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:07 PM

Mr. Surfacer 1200 - an exceptionally nice primer!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:08 PM

spray can or AB? 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:11 PM

AB - I don't rattlecan primer since I don't feel I have the control I want (that and I have to rattlecan in the driveway, and as my bench time comes at night...it's interesting). That and I think Gunze stops at MS1000 in rattlecans.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:16 PM

DoogsATX

AB - I don't rattlecan primer since I don't feel I have the control I want (that and I have to rattlecan in the driveway, and as my bench time comes at night...it's interesting). That and I think Gunze stops at MS1000 in rattlecans.

http://store.spruebrothers.com/gunze-sangyo-mr-surfacer-1200-170ml-b515-p14614.aspx

In stock from time to time...I use it on larger models, like 1:48 multi-engine stuff, much quicker and the control is good, all you're looking for is a uniform coat. After it dries it doesn't look near as thick and no detail is lost. Just depends on the mood I'm in. By the way, some nice looking Jugs in here...

 

 

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    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:19 PM

they got 1200 in the can. it's what i use. i feel 1200 is best out of the can. it's so thin you can just build up layers. i tried spraying 1000 and it wasn't so nice. 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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  • From: Relocating
Posted by Mobious on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 5:14 PM

DoogsATX, Wow! The canopy looks amazing. Great detail masking there buddy! Steady hand on the streaking too. Curious to see how the preshading works out.Hmm Looking forward to updates!

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

  • Member since
    December 2009
Posted by ww2psycho on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 8:00 PM

I started mine, just got the cockpit pieces cut out and painted green, This will probably be a slow build as Im working on others as well. Will get pics when cockpit is done.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 8:04 AM

Doogs:

Very nice on-line book there- thanks for pointing it out. Curious to see how the Revellogram kit comes out with the streak pre-shading. And what can I say? The Tamiya kit looks just great- I swear each NM build you're doing looks better and better. Cool

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 10:28 AM

I hit "Jabo" with airframe aluminum today.

-Tom

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  • From: Hancock, Me USA
Posted by p38jl on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 10:38 AM

nice Doogs !

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:30 PM

Tom - that looks dang shiny! 

Was hoping to break into the neutral gray last night, but the boy came down with an ear infection, and a two-hour battle to get him to take his medicine seriously cut into bench time.

And masking the Jugs took far longer than anticipated.

But  tonight...it's on!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:53 PM

Doogs:

Thanks.Your jug is looking good!!

 I just put an overcoat of "Aluminum" on there. It's not so shiny anymore, though you see a shiny base in it. Interesting. This is my first major experiment with Alclad. You certainly do need 'a lot' of Airframe aluminum to cut the black gloss undercoat. Especially in a 1/32nd. I used a whole bottle and it still had a sheen too dark to my taste! Also, for a better coat, I learned that 10psi works much better.

So, for now, a more traditional aluminum sheen.

-Tom

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:19 PM

Tom,

That looks flawless!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 9, 2012 7:50 AM

Tom that looks excellent! Ain't Alclad the best?

FINALLY got to the Neutral Gray last night...pics up soon. Even keeping it simple, the preshading worked out pretty well I think!

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:07 AM

Thanks guys!

Yeah, man. I am sold on the alclad. It goes on like silk. Lot's of work involved in getting a good finish, but well worth the effort. I am looking forward to doing my 1/32 Tamiya P-51 with it sometime this year.

Looking forward to your pics, Doogs. I like that you are doing your Jug with NM wings and colored fuselage!

-Tom

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:16 AM

DoogsATX

...Even keeping it simple, the preshading worked out pretty well I think!

Just like in design, simple is often the best option.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:17 AM

Where's Fermis' build?  I heard he is throwing in with a JUG...

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:25 AM

If fermis was thinking about it - it's probably already done!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:25 AM

Manstein's revenge

Where's Fermis' build?  I heard he is throwing in with a JUG...

Haven't seen anything from him here, as yet. Would be nice to see his work on this!!

-Tom

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:31 AM

VanceCrozier

If fermis was thinking about it - it's probably already done!

He's probably waiting for that perfect moment to post pics. A secret weapon, if you will !!

-Tom

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:23 AM

Manstein's revenge

Where's Fermis' build?  I heard he is throwing in with a JUG...

Well he's not on the build roster, but he'd be more than welcome! Bet he could start now and still be the first one done, complete with scratchbuilt wings...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:34 AM

panzerpilot

Looking forward to your pics, Doogs. I like that you are doing your Jug with NM wings and colored fuselage!

Yeah I pretty much had to do Magic Carpet ever since seeing it in the "Legend of Y-29" Dogfights episode. Certainly one of the most distinctive Jug liveries I've ever come across...I figured someone else must've seen that episode and had the same idea, and sure enough, Zotz does the markings.

And here's Magic Carpet with Neutral Gray. There's actually very little area to paint w/ the NMF wings, so nothing fancy here...

Now, "The Bug"...

Took the pre-shading another step last night, more streaking, this time with my H&S Infinity. Oh my god such a sweet airbrush! Went back with thinned black and did a random and patchy mist coat.

Then started on the Neutral Gray, going somewhat random in my application. Fine needle, thinned maybe 30% past what I'd use for full coverage. With that much thinner and it being cold outside, the paint behaved beautifully.

Came back around with an overspray of even more highly thinned NG to knock down the contrast...pretty happy with the result. I can see how bringing different colors into play in the shading could really impact the final look, and I'm planning to do that under the Olive Drab, probably with some Dark Green, Olive Green, and JA Green. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:38 AM

Doogs,

Very interesting scheme ad neat looking effect you got there on the undersides. Really looking forward to seeing how she comes out.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Hancock, Me USA
Posted by p38jl on Thursday, February 9, 2012 12:25 PM

Nice looking stuff going on !

gota get my XP out soon.. like tonight even...

 

 

Ps.. Fermis builds in the space/time continuum,,, Whistling

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    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, February 9, 2012 1:05 PM

Really fine work, Doogs. I like the "new" shading technique. Setting the bar very high, per usual...

-Tom

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